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EmSee-2nd-Edition | Ultra | 2016
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stemsee

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Feb 2016, 05:29    Post subject:  

I put mine on a dual partition usb stick partition 1 is fat32 and 2 is ext 4
Works great, I do not copy to ram my boot is
Code:
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=usbhd pfix=fsck,nocopy


Download is working fine here!

Jwm with rox for icon management custom Nicons software. Openbox is also available. XFCE, KDE .sfs modules easily added.

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toomanyquestions

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Feb 2016, 03:15    Post subject:  

No ram - and it's still pretty quick? Can you place the bootloader in fat32 and then boot to ext4 (the 2nd partition)? I've never tried it,,,

stemsee wrote:
I put mine on a dual partition usb stick partition 1 is fat32 and 2 is ext 4
Works great, I do not copy to ram my boot is
Code:
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=usbhd pfix=fsck,nocopy


Download is working fine here!

Jwm with rox for icon management custom Nicons software. Openbox is also available. XFCE, KDE .sfs modules easily added.

regards stemsee
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Feb 2016, 04:57    Post subject:  

Is the current distro a hybrid ISO?
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Feb 2016, 17:02    Post subject:  

Hi stemsee,

I have no wish to give you a persecution complex but must take you to task again. Smile

Quote:
I put mine on a dual partition usb stick partition 1 is fat32 and 2 is ext 4
Works great, I do not copy to ram my boot is
Code:
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=usbhd pfix=fsck,nocopy


1. Unless it is a cunning ploy of some kind that surely should be pmedia=usbflash

2. If your kernel supports f2fs & you have f2fs-tools installed, f2fs on 2 would give better performance.

3. If f2fs is not an option then non-journaled ext4 is the next best bet.
To disable journaling you can use (where XN points to your partition letter and digit):
Code:
tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdXN


4. "nocopy" - Unless you are very short of RAM you may as well use it as it will just sit there feeling sorry for itself.

Anyway depending on your age it is either:

A) (Young) - Detention and/or no lashings of extra custard from matron.

B) (Old) - Temporary confiscation of your bus pass.
Laughing Laughing Laughing

EDIT - Footnote:

pmedia=usbhd can come in handy when dealing with full installs to the 2nd partition on a USB stick.
Depending on the kernel something like,

APPEND root=/dev/sdc2 rootwait rw

may suffice but will result in kernel panic "init not found" with other kernels. In which case;

APPEND root=/dev/sdc2 pmedia=usbhd rootwait rw

will boot OK.

With a normal install to a partition on an SSD pmedia=ataflash comes in handy as it allows a load
from the SSD but with PupSaveConfig the option to save or not at the end of the session.

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stemsee

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Feb 2016, 11:03    Post subject:  

Hi ETP

usbhd seems to be the selection made by grub4dos when detecting a usb-3.0 256mb/s sand disk extreme (fastest usb 3 stick). For lesser sticks usbflash will sufice.

Nocopy, because copying a 3gb file to ram takes quite a lot of time, especially when, as i do, I often reboot to test things out (new kernels, new main sfs, menu, modules to load, daemons loading at start up). I am sure my usage is not typical, and I am happy you take the time to offer solid advise!

Cheers!
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cinclus_cinclus

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Feb 2016, 08:20    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Is the current distro a hybrid ISO?

I tried it by dd'ing the ISO-file to a an USB flash-drive.
But it was not bootable, so to answer your question it's not a hybrid ISO.

So I copied the content of the ISO-file to the FAT32 formatted USB flash-drive, renamed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg and installed syslinux - worked.

But ... - please see next post.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Feb 2016, 08:36    Post subject: EmSee Ultra: no support for Intel NIC I218-V?  

My current hardware uses an Intel NIC I218-V.
I can't find a module suitable for the I218-V, the e1000e:
Code:
> modprobe e1000e

But there is no such module in Ultra.
@stemsee. Could you please provide us with such a module?

Correction: there can't be a ndiswrapper module for the I218-V, because it 's not a wireless-card.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Feb 2016, 23:57    Post subject: Re: EmSee Ultra: no support for Intel NIC I218-V?  

cinclus_cinclus wrote:
My current hardware uses an Intel NIC I218-V.
I can't find a module suitable for the I218-V, the e1000e:
Code:
> modprobe e1000e

But there is no such module in Ultra.
@stemsee. Could you please provide us with such a module?

Correction: there can't be a ndiswrapper module for the I218-V, because it 's not a wireless-card.


You could try building it. An example of how to build a kernel module can be found in 666philb's post here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96178&start=1140

or if you wanted it built-in instead here is an example:
http://web.archive.org/web/20101222043335/http://ckozler.net/?p=184

or download the drivers from one of these sites:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/000005480.html
https://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000/files/e1000e%20stable/

and follow whatever instructions are given.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb 2016, 18:14    Post subject:  

@s243a Thanks for your comment.
Just didn't expect that stemsee 'hid' all modules in kernel-modules.sfs.
Nevertheless I didn't yet manage to configure the network ...
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb 2016, 19:25    Post subject:  

Although I refuse to use any Pup too portly for CD-R/RW media, this information suggests that ndiswrapper may be an option --

Quote:
Although ndiswrapper is intended for wireless network cards, other devices are known to work: e.g., ethernet cards, USB to serial port device, home phone network device etc.


Source.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Feb 2016, 06:37    Post subject:  

Try installing this new kernel, it definetely has e1000e module
Download this huge kernel package to ~/Downloads
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_gaN1QXLwtkQjhGMk5IRnI2Zjg/view?usp=sharing

then copy this script to path make executable and run in term
Code:
newkern


That should install it for you.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Feb 2016, 10:32    Post subject:  

Ok so I found that kdenlive has a problem, and kodi isn't starting, also the theme is old. So, I have fixed these issues and added newer rt kernels. The next iso update will offer quad booting (triple kernels and hdd)

1) 32bit nopae i486 kernel
2) 32bit pae i686
3) 64bit
4) boot local HDD

kdenlive installed from apt-get 400mb download!
audacity 2.1.2 on wine! Too much hassle compiling for linux (wxWidgets)
kodi Isengard 5.2 (update)(couldn't get Jarvis working)
Google Chrome update Version 48.0.2564.109
Sardu back in on wine
Scribus 1.5.1
rmsfsadd rightclick menu (for adding sfs info to installed packages so ppm can uninstall it later if mastered in).
rmsfs-del right-click remove files from system if found in target sfs module.
iso2frugal cli tool.
kia update (Keep Internet Alive, for those of us who use btinternet wifi and the like.)
newkern - download huge kernel package to ~/Downloads/ and this will install it for you and backup previous kernels and modules. More specifically for updating three kernels on EmSee distros! This will require a super huge kernel package at some point for full benefit.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Feb 2016, 18:42    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Feb 2016, 17:38    Post subject:  

Also updated vlc 2.1.6 to 2.2.1, but on wine. Te only problem having it on wine seems to be using it as defaultmediaplayer the path gets messed up and looks like this
Code:
/root//mnt/sda5/Audio/some.mp3

Which it cannot find. Maybe only a problem when selecting files on other partition but could be resolved through links in root!

I have also tidied up the dead links in right click sendto menus. And a new bug which caused geany to open all *.desktop files in ~/.config/autostart which is supposed to replace Startup.

Also cleaned up some residue.

I found that introducing the i486 kernel does not introduce an additional set of kernel modules (at first I added them as adrv_*.sfs) but of course they use the same modules created by the pae compile!
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Feb 2016, 04:26    Post subject:  

Finally, on startup of X the default style of layout for icons is 'corners' ... however this does not take into account the screen resolution of the machine being booted on, which is likely differnt from the machine that it was original remastered on which has a screen of 1366 X 768 . Solution add 'nicons corners' command to nicons script and Startup/star so corners is re-initialised for given screen! Downside is a few more flickers as startup.

Question "At what point in the boot up process is it possible for the operating system to become aware of the hardware screen resolution?"
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