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How long we can keep a Puppy Slacko 5.7.0
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 03:51    Post_subject:  

Hmmm seemed like with Vista the aim of the new version was to obsolete older machines...so a deal with the hardware makers basically. Otherwise I did not understand since they had sat on XP and it sold well and continually just needing a service pack occasionally.

Funny part 2 is the way it works never changes...ie its a 32 bit NT core/kernel (can build on 64 too) ..everything works around that. The ONLY significant kernel changes are simply to obsolete previous windows releases by preventing newly compiled software to work on them using dummy functions....only the gui and other peripheries really change. In the linux world that core changes weekly so remember linux obsoletes itself regularly so time rather than money has to be spent.

The IBM PC has had a long ride..... still hanging on in there and the knobs keep being twiddled/changed Very Happy

I like how the world has been convinced that somehow software 'wears out' like say a car does .... thats one huge joke funny thats made several fortunes...phony engineers.

Just got the post urge Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 08:52    Post_subject:  

What happened brother. Did you crash your bike. Are you OK, more importantly is your bike OK.

No. Not a biker wreck. This happened in house where I was booby trapped by a blanket on the floor in the dark. Acting like a tripwire.

I flew and knocked my self out. Have a dent in my head. Some blood.
My good knee is the worst casualty. It finally settled down so I can stand and limp around. I am giving the knee 3 weeks to settle down before I go
to a doctor.

I have been cut on enough in my life time.
Bikes are OK but I can't ride for right now.

Linux Training More More I have a Masters in Raising Hell.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 13:41    Post_subject:  

@ rokytnji :

We do not know each other much. But after reading your post, I felt sorry for you. Hopefully you recover quickly.

bigpup wrote:
The difference between Windows and Linux.

Yes, agreed to your listing with the reasons why Op systems and hardware change frequently. During my summer break, I met an employee from Microsoft he is like a lab tech. He told me most of the points raised by you as reasons. He made few more interesting comments:
1. Microsoft must change both HW and SW to prevent hackers. If any system is not changing over a good time, then hackers understand it well and break it easily.

2. If Microsoft (or any firm) makes a new product and releases into market, there are plenty buyers ready to line up in front of shops and buy, test, review, compare and critique etc, besides having them as genuine end users. Sales are always there, no matter whether the product is good or bad. There is no 'great product' yet - in fact any product, which could continue to get sold over 3 years can be a 'good product'. Customers always want variety and new stuff.

3. In SW or HW, not a single user reads EULA, everyone simply clicks 'Yes' or 'I agree' button.

4. For many people (at least in US, Canada, UK) shopping for electronics and then selling the old time on e-bay/ Amazon is a routine habit.

5. Most companies depend on customers to provide testing results and then modify the products!

I tried to explain him about my budgetary constraints and other expenses and then told him about several problems that I faced with Windows. He got irritated literally when I suggested about Linux (I did not have guts to say that I am Linux user now, he might have lost his cool and then may be hit me too?), he told if anyone has concern about personal data, family pics, files etc then Windows is the best and safest solution. I argued that extra payments for new machine, and then for MS office licenses etc, then my bandwidth used by Adobe, Norton, Office and any software for that matter. His position was best systems are not cheap and this is why all of America lives, and he would not care if one of his app wants to update by itself (and use his Bandwidth) to keep the machine clean and safe.

At the end, we departed on graceful terms, I played a bit non-techie role and have shown respect to him. Because, I do not want to lose my temper, appear as argumentative that too in front of my kids and wife. But he could not respond to some of the points.

This discussion continues......

But for now, I am back home, we are using our old machine like breeze, with the Puppy Slako5.7 and my tenant is getting wireless internet from the same machine, we all check emails, watch videos, I do my office documentation (word and Excel), kids doing their homework - no issues.

My wife's family brought a dell 18.4 tablet early this year(they have seen our old 18.4 machine that is working like a solid rock even now, so got inspired) with Win 8; but they were not able to use for some reason, and ended up giving that to us as gift. Now the big tablet is with us, I need to work on it to see if I can put Puppy on it
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2014, 06:21    Post_subject:  


Best wishes from me mate.

No joke but....maybe touch an electric fence in a week or so for a second....
the 12 volt type only.

The charge might help release your knee.

Happened to me with my ankle playing tennis....years ago.

Fell down after lobbing a shot back.

Hobbled around for weeks with a gumboot on the bodgie ankle.

My mate wanted to go fox hunting on his farm and others.

I just went along...but not using a firearm.

Went through a fence...didn't see a second strand.

A Frank Zappa>> Zapper moment so to speak.
You have never seen me move so fast.

Swelling went down though.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2014, 07:50    Post_subject:  

@rokytnji, get well soon mate.

@cthisbear, that's one hell of a therapy you suggest.
If only I had thought of trying that earlier on my right knee, bad football injury (that's soccer for my US friends).

@mekalu2k4, beware of windows, beware of windows guy.

- Neeraj.

"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
- Ken Thompson

“We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run.”
- Amara’s Law.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2014, 15:59    Post_subject:  

he told if anyone has concern about personal data, family pics, files etc then Windows is the best and safest solution.

....if this was a religion that would be classed as a cultist attitude and therefore heavily in denial and misplaced beliefs not consistent with reality ...

but its not

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Sep 2014, 04:11    Post_subject:  

I ran away from M$ in 2008, and I haven't looked back. No tears of regret either. Recently I started using slacko57-ff23, a "turn-key" version of slacko 5.7 non-pae.It fits quite well on an old netbook, with an odd screen rez. I noticed the orig. post stated lots of extras like wine, VLC, etc. That does make puppies quite large. If you or a family member does a lot of just general surfing around, its a good small version.

Personally, when I want to do Office stuff, and and need Java, Flash, etc. I prefer slack0-5.5XL which has LibreOffice 4.x. It does a great job for office work, playing the simpler flash games, youtube, etc. Of course, I need a bit newer netbook. Used ones 9" or 10" w/Atom are pretty cheap, and OK. Heck, I bought one with a dead HDD cheap, no problem ... run off USB stick Razz

Puppy is what you want Puppy to do. Just about that simple.
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