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How long we can keep a Puppy Slacko 5.7.0
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Fri 30 May 2014, 07:18    Post_subject:  

Yes realising you have choices is the breakthrough and then the purchasing treadmill vanishes.

I still use windows 2000 ... sometimes XP...

Those old machines in terms of productivity are not far behind this weeks shiny new gadget that runs ok for a few weeks before getting slower and slower. And the best bit is the software is absolved from any warrenty I assume as they fully expect it to break.

An 8 year old newly acquired lenovo laptop is our power machine .... older machines make sense especially for linux use due to hardware driver lag. They also escape the lead free solder problem of such as detaching video chips.

Eventually time does march on and they will go the way of every other piece of obsolete gear but I do think such technology can last a bit more than a year or two.

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mekalu2k4

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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2014, 14:03    Post_subject: How long we can keep a Puppy Slacko 5.7.0
Sub_title: so you mean to say that you purchased a 8 yr old machine?
 

Hi Mike,

I agree to your point that using Linux saves lot of money in terms of 'forced buying' due to software upgrades/ updates.

But you wrote "An 8 year old newly acquired lenovo laptop is our power machine" something that suggests you in fact purchased a very old laptop and it is working fine? - Is that right? More details on this please especially cost, specs source of purchase (like ebay or something), and overall experience.

Looking for a lightweight 17.3 inch-big screen used laptop. Any suggestions? Especially - Puppy 5.7.0 should work on it perfectly, all my family is now on Puppy 5.7.0

Regards,
Mekalu
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2014, 14:42    Post_subject:  

Going back to the original question, I'd say about 1 hour. Yep, an hour....
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2014, 14:43    Post_subject:  

Ok with slacko something newer is probably ok...intel onboard video was a linux headache for a while.

I seem to find ex business machines give the best deal. On ebay I find batches of them from companies who buy a job lot, check them over and sell out the ok ones.... these are machines that were expensive when new rather than built on a budget to sell in PC world and supermarkets.
You will also find better long term support, spares available and good documentation.

Its also worth noting that such companies usually give a limited warrenty in spite of them being second hand. They also tend to go for a buy it now price which to me is less hassle than waiting on a bid that you then lose and find they go for the same price anyway.

If you want good gaming support then there are variations with onboard nvidia or ati graphics.

Thats just one approach and outlet...
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rokytnji


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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2014, 15:46    Post_subject:  

Just watched a Dell 620 with dual core processors, 4 gig of ram, 120gig hard drive with no operating system. AC adapter included. Boots to bios. No warranty on battery.

$61.00, $18.00 to ship.

Not 17 inch screen though. Ebay is USA.

You mean something like this?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Laptop-Tablet-Computers-/40177/i.html?_dcat=40177&Brand=Dell

or?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Laptop-Tablet-Computers-/40177/i.html?_nkw=laptop+full retail plus shipping+lot&_frs=1

Getting Picky like 17 inch screen limits choices somewhat.

My wife loves her Dell E4310 , i5, 8gig ram, 500 gig hard drive, Windows 7
enterprise laptop that I bought her for $200.00 from a corp. resale (it is over now
so don't ask).

I could not find another at that price so I settled on a Acer C710
dual core, 4gig ram, 16gig SSD ChromeBook instead for $119.00 (refurbished professionally).

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/rokytnji-396422/chromebook-acer-c710-2457-36036/

It was cheaper than a good keg of beer or a card board box.

@mikeb Crying or Very sad I have not sold the pcmcia wireless , 1000Hz, 512MB ram, 30gig hard drive, 4 port pcmcia (2usb 2.0, 2 firewire), IBMA22M with XP on it for $45.00 yet in my one horse town yet.

Welfare makes it hard here to even dig up $45.00. Hell. I even included a 2.14xxxx top ten cd
and a very nice laptop bag to go with it.

There I go. Off topic as Usual. Maybe I oughta put Salix on it and just keep the sucker.

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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2014, 16:05    Post_subject:  

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mekalu2k4

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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2014, 22:44    Post_subject: How long we can keep a Puppy Slacko 5.7.0
Sub_title: Amazing to see old computers being sold in lots!!
 

@rokytnji :
Very interesting post. I have never seen/ known this type of old computer being sold in lots. Amazing.

However, I would not buy any of these, as most of these are not working - as clearly stated in respective pages of ebay. As mikeb mentioned, only companies or individuals who are in business of repairing/ selling computers can buy these. As a simple user of a single computer, I would prefer to buy one laptop, may be expensive but in good working condition.

But as I stated, the post itself is very interesting to browse, read and to know.

There are some old computers at good specs being sold on e-bay. If my budget permits, I might try one of those.
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun 2014, 03:24    Post_subject:  

No I was talking about companies SELLING working machines they have bought as ex corporate job lots. Mine came with windows 7 and a battery with decent life for example. Thing is they state what you get , give a limited warrenty and are careful with what they say as they cannot afford many returns on their margins.

Some are wiped clean for security purposes hence the boot to bios but thats usually no problem...otherwise they bung say XP on it. I repartitioned the drive and the windows 7 is on another mahine for me to play with...using it right now.

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mekalu2k4

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Aug 2014, 21:02    Post_subject: Having problem after 4 months - Nonstop use
Sub_title: strangely not connecting to Internet
 

Hello all,
Sorry, did (could) not check the forum, as I was away on vacation with my family all these days, just returned as kids need to go to their respective schools; their terms beginning next week.

Ok, all these days I left my Toshiba Qosmio 18.4 inch/X505-Q886/ i686- Intl i5 M450/ nVidia/ 4gb RAM/ 500gb HDD/ machine running. OS: Puppy 5.7 slako. Leaving the machine ON was required as I have one student renting my place and gets internet from this machine using wi-fi hotspot. Just kept a small table fan on to it to prevent any overheating.

Yesterday, when I came back the machine was fine - except some fine dust on it! I checked my emails, browsed a bit and then rested. This morning I thought it might be better to give it a bit rest and start again. Shut it down for 1hr and then started. It came up normally, but could not connect to internet at all. I tried with a live puppy version on a USB (which I kept as backup a few months ago), the machine worked fine, internet is fine was.

Cannot understand what went wrong. Did not have patience (Grrrr!) to post on this forum and pester everyone etc. So, formatted the HDD with grub, used universal installer within the live usb puppy and installed a fresh copy again.

Now all is normal. using the same machine again. I just wanted to share this with you guys. Someone may have academic interest. I have No complaints......
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rokytnji


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 08:15    Post_subject:  

Make a backup of your save file before going away on vacation or before leaving it on for days for a neighbors hotspot.

No telling what sites that neighbor visited before you shut down and saved,
probably a corrupted save file by leaving it as a wifi hotspot.

Easier tha a reinstall. Just dlete save. Install backup.
Like system restore in Windows. I usually have 2 or 3 backup choices on my boot screen on a frugal install.

This is all just guesswork though from a scooter tramp puppy user.

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mekalu2k4

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 12:36    Post_subject: How long we can keep a Puppy Slacko 5.7.0  

rokytnji wrote:
Make a backup of your save file before going away on vacation or before leaving it on for days for a neighbors hotspot.


Do not know how to do this. In the past, I tried to follow the threads here to 're-master CD' but no success. May be I should try again, now that I have clean installation now.

rokytnji wrote:

No telling what sites that neighbor visited before you shut down and saved,
probably a corrupted save file by leaving it as a wifi hotspot.


LOL! But, really my tenant is a young medical/ university student (female) and will be graduating next year as full doctor. She is not a gadget freak or computer geek. I do not think, as a female, she would have time to visit unwanted sites. But we never know, I do not know how to monitor the web traffic.

While installing I faced one problem. Could not create 'wifi sharing' had to struggle, even after reading my own threads in the past. Simply putting, I did it 6 months back with the help of seniors here and other threads, but forgot the sequence that worked finally.

The problems is:
So many threads are here, sometimes it is possible to get lost. Sometimes too many different solutions, not clearly written, dead links etc.

Solution: we should make a concise notes for each aspect we do. That is what I am doing now.

May be I should post my new notes for each topic? Is that fine? Can someone/ senior assist or verify my posts so that new readers can get help?
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:49    Post_subject:  

Making a backup personal save file is covered in Puppy Well Minded search.

No need for remaster anything.

It is just a copy and paste of your personal save file to another location outside of your puppy install and you rename it just a little like bk1,bk2, etc....

During the bootup process. If backup save file is on a Windows partition.
The bootloader will see it and offer you a choice of using it or your original save file before it will complete the booting process.

http://wellminded.net63.net/

I am not blowing you off or anything. I am walking wounded lately and my pain makes me not sit still for too long on anything or walk about too long either so I have no concentration going because pain is yelling it's head off at me.

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neerajkolte


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 22:27    Post_subject: Re: How long we can keep a Puppy Slacko 5.7.0  

mekalu2k4 wrote:
The problems is:
So many threads are here, sometimes it is possible to get lost. Sometimes too many different solutions, not clearly written, dead links etc.

Solution: we should make a concise notes for each aspect we do. That is what I am doing now.
I have made a handwritten book of solutions for my previous problems. There is also one pet named threadget, I used it to pull some pages which contains answers from whole thread and keep them as backup.

rokytnji wrote:
I am walking wounded lately and my pain makes me not sit still for too long on anything or walk about too long either so I have no concentration going because pain is yelling it's head off at me.
What happened brother. Did you crash your bike. Are you OK, more importantly is your bike OK.

Thanks.
- Neeraj.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 00:04    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Shut it down for 1hr and then started. It came up normally, but could not connect to internet at all.

First thing to do is try a complete shutdown and reboot.
Sometimes the boot process does not complete properly.
A component does not power up properly.
Data is not properly read from the storage device.
A program does not load properly.
etc....

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 00:25    Post_subject:  

The difference between Windows and Linux.

Windows comes out with a new version because:

The old version is not making them any new money Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

The newest hardware is not being supported.

They have fixed this thing as much as possible and it still has problems.

If we make a new version, everyone will buy it, not just the people buying new computers. Shocked Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

We should provide support for the newest hardware, but if we change how Windows works and looks, we can make more MONEY! Twisted Evil Shocked Exclamation




Linux comes out with a new version because:

We need to provide support for the newest hardware.

This guy figured out a better way to do something or make this program work better.

What if we did stuff this way Question Idea Cool Very Happy

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