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jrb · #871 Post by **jrb** » Wed 25 Dec 2019, 13:14

sindi wrote:I tried this in lupu2016 and got a GdkPixBuf error, which someone else who installed Komodo fixed by installing gdkpixbuf2, which lupu2016 does not have in package manager.

Racy has libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0

sindi · #872 Post by **sindi** » Wed 25 Dec 2019, 14:29

I copied over the one libgdk_pixbuf lib to /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc/lib/
but the next error message is that it cannot fix a directory:
/usr/lib/gdk_pixbuf-2.0. Does lupu 5.2.8... have that?

Mike Walsh · #873 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Fri 27 Dec 2019, 16:08

@ all:-

Now then; is it just me, or has anybody else noticed just how long Palemoon takes to fire up, ever since the update to 28.8.0?

I'm talking about a relatively powerful Puppy desktop here; 64-bit dual-core Athlon64 X2 CPU, 3 GB RAM, large amounts of storage space (in assorted flavours). Previous releases fired-up relatively quickly, yet this one takes nearly 40 seconds until there's any signs of life!

Just wondered if I'm the only one to notice this..?

Mike.

Wiz57 · #874 Post by **Wiz57** » Fri 27 Dec 2019, 16:21

Mike,
Have noticed a bit of slowdown in Pale Moon startup the first start after
a boot, but subsequent closing and restarts don't seem to be affected
too much. This is with PM 28.8.0 32 bit, ScPupLXQt 32 bit, frugal install
on shared HDD with other pups and WinXP...also haven't seen a huge
slow down in regular ScPup 32. In XP, I use a fork of PM called New
Moon by Roytam, but have a few add-ons with it that slow initial start
a bit more than the Linux PMs exhibit without add-ons (I use Pup
Advert Block in my puppies).

Acer Aspire One AO150, Intel Atom N270 CPU, 1.6 gHz, 1 gb RAM, 120 gb HDD
Wiz

sindi · #875 Post by **sindi** » Fri 27 Dec 2019, 16:47

X takes about 5 seconds to load, then Pale Moon is relatively quick on this 2004 laptop, single-core, 1.4GHz, 512MB RAM.
Only add-on is eta-matrix, disabled. We use My Pal with XP.

bigpup · #876 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 27 Dec 2019, 23:39

First time startup.
About 5 to 10 seconds.
That is about normal now.

takes nearly 40

That seems a little too long to start.
Any errors reported if run from terminal?

If you have installed Pale Moon or done any updates.
It is all coming from the save, which is not loaded into RAM, but only loaded as read/write.
So, Pale Moon is read from the save and than loaded into RAM.
Takes time to do that.
Plus, who really knows, what other programs it starts, as dependencies, needed to run. plugin programs, add-ons, etc......

After you have used PaleMoon and close it.
It is still loaded in the RAM cache, because you may want to use it again.
Second start will be very fast. It is already in RAM.

6502coder · #877 Post by **6502coder** » Sat 28 Dec 2019, 01:59

I've got Palemoon 28.8.0 32-bit running on my 1.3 GHz Celeron laptop, 1 GB RAM, running the most recent Slacko 5.8.3 by Sailor Enceladus. Not seeing any sluggishness here.

Palemoon's window appears in about 9 seconds, although it takes another second or two for PM to become responsive to mouse events.

I also have DPupStretch 7.5 RC 5 installed on this machine. I get the same startup times for Palemoon on that OS.

Mike Walsh · #878 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sat 28 Dec 2019, 12:33

@ bigpup:-

bigpup wrote:After you have used PaleMoon and close it.
It is still loaded in the RAM cache, because you may want to use it again.
Second start will be very fast. It is already in RAM.

Aye, I'll agree with that. It could be due to the way I run my browsers, of course; all 'portables' are run from an external, remotely-mounted 'data' partition (Mozilla-based, all of these). The only ones I install the normal way are the Chromium-based browsers, since these are awkward to make 'portable'.

(Nowadays I install the browser itself as normal, but share profiles instead.....)

Don't have any problems with those!

Guess it's like as not me being 'awkward'....

Palemoon's as fast as always, once she's up-and-running....

(*shrug*)

Mike.

jrb · #879 Post by **jrb** » Sat 28 Dec 2019, 23:06

Mike Walsh wrote:It could be due to the way I run my browsers, of course; all 'portables' are run from an external, remotely-mounted 'data' partition (Mozilla-based, all of these)

I'm running a portable install. I just timed startup at 4 seconds. Have you checked the size of your profile? I use a 1.92 Mb barebones profile template from which I deleted /Cache2, /startupCache, /thumbnails, and places.sqlite*. It is copied to palemoon_profile and then Palemoon fills in the missing files. At shutdown bookmarks and preference changes are copied back to the template. Some changes in about:config allow bookmarks to be saved.

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh

#open in terminal
tty -s; if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then xterm -hold -e "'$0' '$@'"; exit; fi

echo yes
RD=`readlink -fv ./palemoon-launch`
#echo $RD
DIR=`dirname $RD`
echo $DIR
cd $DIR

cp -af $DIR/home_page.html /root

#echo `pwd`
mkdir $DIR/profile 2> /dev/null
rm -fr $DIR/palemoon_profile*

cp -alpru $DIR/profile $DIR/palemoon_profile
sleep 1
if [ -e "$@" ]
  then
    $DIR/palemoon "$@" -profile $DIR/palemoon_profile
  else
    $DIR/palemoon -profile $DIR/palemoon_profile
fi

cp -au $DIR/prefs.js $DIR/profile
cp -au $DIR/palemoon_profile/bookmarks.html $DIR/profile
rm -fr $DIR/palemoon_profile*

I did this to fight bloat but perhaps it has helped with startup speed as well.

Good luck, J

bigpup · #880 Post by **bigpup** » Sun 29 Dec 2019, 05:12

It could be due to the way I run my browsers, of course; all 'portables' are run from an external, remotely-mounted 'data' partition (Mozilla-based, all of these).

If the browser is loading up from an external, remotely-mounted drive.
There is your slow to load problem.
Slower read speed than an internal drive.

Walter Dnes · #881 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Mon 13 Jan 2020, 06:42

URGENT: Update to version 28.8.1 NOW. Grab and install the tarball if your current Puppy doesn't have PM 28.8.1. http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml says, amongst other things...

Fixed an issue with the JavaScript JIT compiler that could lead to exploitable crashes. (CVE-2019-17026) actively exploited

This is the same CVE-2019-17026 issue that is in the news with Firefox now.

tallboy · #882 Post by **tallboy** » Mon 13 Jan 2020, 22:39

Done. Thank you, Walter.

bigpup · #883 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 14 Jan 2020, 10:36

Pale Moon internal update, worked for me, to get to V28.8.1

If you have a Pale Moon V28.0.0 or newer. The internal update will keep it updated to latest version.
Have it set to auto update or help->Check for updates......

LeithR · #884 Post by **LeithR** » Thu 23 Jan 2020, 11:39

I'm running xenial64-7.5 on an old Dell laptop and I need to update palemoon. Is there a palemoon.pet available or what is the best version to download from the palemoon site please?
I'm currently using palemoon27.6.1.

6502coder · #885 Post by **6502coder** » Thu 23 Jan 2020, 20:06

Have you tried Help->Check for Updates... ?

Mike Walsh · #886 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Thu 23 Jan 2020, 22:49

6502coder wrote:Have you tried Help->Check for Updates... ?

@ 6502coder:-

I doubt that'll work for him. Up until the 28-series, Palemoon made use of the separate updater, which has since been deprecated. I forget if PM 27.xxxx even had the 'Check for updates' menu entry; if it did, it would lead to a dead-end.

@ LeithR:-

Try my 'portable' Palemoon package:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 85#1015085

The resident 28.6.0 will very soon auto-update to the current 28.8.1. Usage instructions are in the first post, along with the download location.

Mike.

6502coder · #887 Post by **6502coder** » Fri 24 Jan 2020, 00:12

@LeithR:
What Mike said. His portable Palemoon package has worked great for me.

tallboy · #888 Post by **tallboy** » Fri 24 Jan 2020, 02:36

LeithR, I ususally download my Palemoons from palemoon.org, you'll find the lastest 64-bit version here: (I use tahr64_6.0.6)
http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/
I unpack it, and place the PM in /opt, make a palemoon.desktop, and a link from /opt/palemoon/palemoon to /usr/bin.
There is a detailed description of the installation here, you'll have to adapt it to your puppy, but if you have the icons and palemoon.desktop from earlier installation, there is no need to modify those, just leave them as is.
http://linux.palemoon.org/help/installation/

The browser icon on the desktop is usually set to open /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser, if you open defaultbrowser as text and modify it, you can set palemoon as you browser; exec palemoon "$@"

I saw a note about the old /root/.moonchild productions/ dir, it should not be used, there are some new mods in the PM 28 series. You can delete, or rename it. You should also delete the palemoon dir in /root/.cache before you start to use the new PM. If you have a lot of bookmarks and other notes, don't delete but just rename the old /opt/palemoon/ dir, and import the bookmarks from it to the new PM later.

BTW, to update PM later, use the Check for updates in the Help menu, works for me.

LeithR · #889 Post by **LeithR** » Fri 24 Jan 2020, 09:08

@6502coder - I'm replying on another machine that still has access to the forum. Thanks for the suggestion, help-> check for update does not exist on this version of Palemoon (27.6.1) and internet-> palemoon updater is not working for some reason.

@Mike Walsh - I've got onto your Portables Google Drive and am trying to download Palemoon-28.6.0-amd64-portable.tar.gz , single click does nothing and double click opens it as an email attachment would. How do I download it? I don't use Google Drive.

@tallboy - I've downloaded the TB. I may need further help as I've not done any linking before.

Thanks to all for your help.

LeithR · #890 Post by **LeithR** » Fri 24 Jan 2020, 09:22

@tallboy - How do I uninstal palemoon 27.6.1? Please

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Re: Palemoon 28.8.0 in lupu2016 missing gdkpixbuf2?

palemoon 219 tweak in lupu2016 needs /usr/lib/gdk_pixbuf-2.0

PM 28.8 10 sec startup on DELL 600M Racy 5.5 glibc 2.2.0