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Re: Pale Moon 27.7.2 available

#511 Post by Walter Dnes »

Pale Moon version 27.7.2 is available. This is a security and stability update to the browser. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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#512 Post by 6502coder »

I just updated to 27.7.2SSE per the instructions: delete the old "palemoon" directory, then unpack the new 27.7.2 tarball. This worked fine except that the "new" browser still identifies itself in Help->About as 27.7.1SSE. Is this just a typo? EDIT: Sorry, false alarm. After a reboot, the browser identifies as 27.7.2SSE.
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#513 Post by rufwoof »

OpenBSD have pulled Palemoon due to licensing issues https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/commen ... ts_due_to/

Moon Child does seem to be a apt choice of name

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#514 Post by Walter Dnes »

6502coder wrote:I just updated to 27.7.2SSE per the instructions: delete the old "palemoon" directory, then unpack the new 27.7.2 tarball. This worked fine except that the "new" browser still identifies itself in Help->About as 27.7.1SSE. Is this just a typo? EDIT: Sorry, false alarm. After a reboot, the browser identifies as 27.7.2SSE.
A reboot should not be necessary. Linux does not really delete a file if a program is still accessing it. "ls -al" may not show it, but it's still there, taking up space. If you had a minimized window running during the update, that might explain things. To be sure you've shut down all instances and windows of Pale Moon, issue the command...

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killall palemoon
from a terminal (roxterm/xterm/whatever) before deleting the old directory. It's a bit heavy-handed, but it guarantees Pale Moon is not running.

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New Moon 27.8 (for XP) also needs MSE adjusted

#515 Post by sindi »

New Moon is the XP fork of Pale Moon. On a 2004 DELL Inspiron 600M (1.6GHz), with the usual dead USB ports and wifi slot, New Moon in XP, like Pale Moon in Wary or Lucid Puppy (or later Puppies on older laptops) only provides 360p resolution unless you change MSE settings (uncheck top of three listings under content, check bottom one).

The latest non-SSE Pale Moon does not work in Wary - something missing. Which is one reason Walter continues to compile the SSE version to support older libraries. Many thanks.

New Moon uses less CPU in XP than does Seamonkey 2.49 (which will be the last version to work in XP).,

In XP, with New Moon, at 1.6GHz, with Radeon 9000, 360p works well. 480p (auto in Seamonkey) works badly - goes over 100% CPU usage often. Slower CPU and/or GPU would need 240p. The 1.5GHz 600M was a bit jerky at 360p.

hamoudoudou

palemoon language, hungarian Puppies

#516 Post by hamoudoudou »

palemoon language, hungarian Puppies are delivered wit palemoon hungarian version, for people understanding English just change preferences by clicking as below.
Hungarian Artfulpup and artful-stretch HU : ok
addon language switcher

omni.ja : nothing to do with Japan, it's a .jar file (JRE Java)
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dttenergy outage map not working with latest Palemoon

#517 Post by sindi »

http://dteenergy.com/map/outage.html

Map of SE Detroit power outages (21,000 customers) appears with Firefox 45 ESR (in Lupu kernel 2.6) but not with Palemoon - just says 'loading'.

Also when I entered a description of the problem it would not accept more than one line of text and I could not even backspace, though I could submit.

I checked and there was plenty of free memory.

Our very wet snow has been pulling power lines off poles.

Palemoon freezes up when using Dpup Stretch kernel 3.16 on a laptop with 1GB RAM and no swap file. No such problem with Wary 5.5. (Lupu cannot handle the video or something on here). The drive is too full to make a swap file. I have to kill Palemoon.

Walter, thank you for making my older laptops usable with Puppy Linux for browsing. Firefox uses too much memory on most of them (512MB total).

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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.0 available

#518 Post by Walter Dnes »

Version 27.8.0 is available for downloading. Pale Moon has been updated to v27.8.0, a major development update with new and improved functionality and some bugfixes. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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new palemoon works with electrical outage map

#519 Post by sindi »

DTE Energy outage map works with the latest Pale Moon.
I think I was allowing all javascript before but maybe not.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available

#520 Post by Walter Dnes »

Version 27.8.1 is available for downloading. This is a small update to address some breaking issues introduced in the previous release. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available

#521 Post by greengeek »

Walter Dnes wrote:The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Hi Walter, I am keen to produce a PalemoonSSEonly puppy .pet for Slacko 5.6 users but I need to be sure that the results of this are "generic" and not carrying components that are specific to my machine. When I go through the manual process that you describe in your linked post there is quite a delay at the end where the terminal shows "palemoon/libfreeblpriv3.chk".

Is this doing some kind of check that is specific to my machine? Do you think it is safe for me to package the resultant palemoon directoey for distribution to others?

EDIT : Also you say "The first time Pale Moon is installed, you need to create a symlink to the executable" - which is the executable? palemoon or palemoon.bin? Clicking either one seems to start the browser directly.

cheers!

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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available

#522 Post by Walter Dnes »

greengeek wrote:Hi Walter, I am keen to produce a PalemoonSSEonly puppy .pet for Slacko 5.6 users but I need to be sure that the results of this are "generic" and not carrying components that are specific to my machine. When I go through the manual process that you describe in your linked post there is quite a delay at the end where the terminal shows "palemoon/libfreeblpriv3.chk".

Is this doing some kind of check that is specific to my machine? Do you think it is safe for me to package the resultant palemoon directoey for distribution to others?
No checking going on. The machine may be a bit slow swapping stuff back in after extracting the tarball. There really is a file called "palemoon/libfreeblpriv3.chk".
greengeek wrote:EDIT : Also you say "The first time Pale Moon is installed, you need to create a symlink to the executable" - which is the executable? palemoon or palemoon.bin? Clicking either one seems to start the browser directly.
The 2 files are identical. I think that many years ago, some linux distros needed the "-bin" extension to tell them it was executable, so a copy with the "-bin" name was made. Pale Moon seems to have inherited that feature from Firefox. Stick with "palemoon" for the executable name.

A few notes:

1) The extracted directory is self-contained. There is no need to splatter files all over /usr You can do stuff like...

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rm -rf /opt/palemoon
tar -C /opt -xvjf palemoon-27.8.1SSE.linux-i686.tar.bz2
cd /usr/bin
ln -sf /opt/palemoon/palemoon palemoon
Or you can go with /usr/local instead of /opt. Assuming that /usr/bin is in the PATH, it's ready to go. There is nothing deposited outside /opt/palemoon. It creates directory "$HOME/.moonchild productions" when first launched.

2) I'm a volunteer who does a recognized "3rd party build". I don't speak officially for the organization. The redistribution licence is at http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml You are allowed re-packaging only so far as necessary for the target OS (e.g. rpm, deb, pet). No add-ons, plugins, extra files, deletions, changes, etc. If you have any questions about the licence, click on "contact me" on that web page to get in touch with Moonchild. Since you're doing a "binary re-pack" I don't expect any problems.

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Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?

#523 Post by hamoudoudou »

Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?
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french refused ! ???

#524 Post by hamoudoudou »

french refused ! ???
Most of Puppy Linux users can use English. Others will hardly succeed how to do, and leave soon or later
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#525 Post by matchpoint »

Update, then "Preference" method. There's NO reason to run an outdated build of PaleMoon.
These language packs are for the latest version of the browser (v27). They will not work on older versions. If you are using an older version of the browser, please update to the current version first. If you for whatever reason....
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Re: Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?

#526 Post by Walter Dnes »

hamoudoudou wrote:Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?
They are different files with different sizes. They appear to be the Java "JAR" format, which is really a "zip" file. You can copy the JAR file with a "zip" extension into a separate subdirectory and unzip them. The version in the "palemoon/" subdirectory is larger and contains more files than the version in the "palemoon/browser/" directory. They happen to use the same name, but have different functions.

hamoudoudou

same name, but no same functiuns..

#527 Post by hamoudoudou »

same name, but no same functiuns.. Too difficult for me.

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#528 Post by bigpup »

Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?
Because that is how the developers of Palemoon want it to work.
As I understand, one file is used for actual display of the browser and the other is used in display of web pages.

Probably keeps a bad coded web page from freezing up the browser. The bad code would only freeze up the web page.
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#529 Post by greengeek »

Does the presence of omni.ja indicate that a java jre is required for Palemoon to run properly? Or does it indicate that Palemoon has some form of java runtime built in?

(I am happy with javascript but don't want anything to do with java)

cheers!

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#530 Post by bigpup »

No. It is actually using unzip to unpack it.

Do not get all hung up over this.

It is just a type of compressed package file with files in it that Palemoon uses. Palemoon being based on Mozilla.
They use the jar format to compress/package stuff.
achieve performance improvements by moving many of their internal parts from being standalone files or sets of JAR files into just one JAR file called omni.ja ; this reduces the amount of I/O needed to load the application.

Note: Starting with Firefox 10 and Thunderbird 10, the file extension .ja is used because Windows System Restore does not back up files with the .jar extension, but it does back up .ja files. This change was needed to prevent Firefox from becoming corrupted.
That is a Windows problem, but .ja also works in Linux, so I guess they used it in both versions.

Whatever, it works! :D
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