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greengeek
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Re: Pale Moon 27.4.0

#451 Post by greengeek »

Walter Dnes wrote:For Pentium3-class machines, the SSE-only build is downloadable at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE- ... 86.tar.bz2.
Hi Walter - this link seems dead for me. Is it still correct? cheers

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#452 Post by Robert123 »

Hi Greengeek,

Seems dead here too.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#453 Post by 6502coder »

Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine.

Walter Dnes
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Pointer to Pale Moon SSE version

#454 Post by Walter Dnes »

greengeek wrote:I would be keen to see a separate thread for an SSE version of Palemoon - it's a bit of a struggle to find which post references a suitable version for a PC that lacks SSE2.

As an alternative to a separate thread - could anyone link to a post which offers a version for SSE only CPU?

cheers!
HI; I do an SSE contributed build for 32-bit linux Pale Moon. See Pale Moon forum thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530 Note that since this is not the mainstream build, (un)installation has to be done manually from the tarball. What I find easiest is to...
  • create a directory in my home dire, e.g. $HOME/pm
    cd $HOME/pm
    Download the current SSE tarball to $HOME/pm/ The current tarball URL is ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE- ... 86.tar.bz2
    killall palemoon (as a precaution)
    rm -rf palemoon This deletes/"uninstalls" the local Pale Moon in directory $HOME/pm/palemoon
    tar -xvjf <tarball_name> This "installs" the local Pale Moon
    The basic launch command is $HOME/pm/palemoon/palemoon (YES!)
    Put that command into whatever menubar/program-launcher/etc you use.
This process installs in the user's home directory, and only the user can use it. If you change $HOME/pm/ to /opt or /usr/local, then all users can use it. I don't expect multiple users on a Pentium3-class machine (i.e. SSE-only)

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#455 Post by Walter Dnes »

6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine.
That's right; the version number is part of the tarball name, so your method works best for handling the constantly changing names. I also update a dedicated thread on the Pale Moon forum as new versions are uploaded https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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#456 Post by greengeek »

6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?

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#457 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

greengeek wrote:
6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?
I've been using this version by Walter Dnes as backup browser in Slacko 5.7 for a while (the date on my download is July 17th). There are some things that work in Palemoon that don't in Firefox 28, then some other things that don't work in Palemoon and I need to use Firefox 52esr, then some things that don't even work in Firefox 52esr and I need to use Slimjet (rare). Normally I use Firefox 28 though because it seems the most stable. I uploaded a mirror of the Walter Dnes palemoon I downloaded here:

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code ... VuXuY7XiC7

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#458 Post by Walter Dnes »

greengeek wrote:
6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?
The password is "get". Here's how to do it in one line, by including it in the URL

ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

My understanding is that this is intended to prevent search engines from constantly downloading it, and wasting bandwidth.

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Pale Moon 27.5.0 available

#459 Post by Walter Dnes »

Pale Moon version 27.5.0 is available. A lot of improvements; see list at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

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#460 Post by RickGT351 »

One cool thing about palemoon is that you don't have to worry about installing pulse audio so you can have sound. That's what put me off firefox

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#461 Post by watchdog »

palemoon-27.5.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.5.0-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

EDIT:
palemoon-27.5.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

See this previous post about installing in puppy4:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 134#953134
Last edited by watchdog on Wed 11 Oct 2017, 04:15, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.5.1 available

#462 Post by Walter Dnes »

Pale Moon version 27.5.1 is available. This is a security and stability update to the browser, as well as fixing some issues users have indicated; see list at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

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#463 Post by rerwin »

I installed palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet in a new lucid (5.2.8.7-20170923) pup environment along with flashplayer, to test with a known video site. When I click to start playing a video, it plays normally. If I then close the tab or exit the browser, either by menu or "X", I see the following messages:

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/usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container: line 3:  6890 Segmentation fault      /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container-exec "$@"

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv

The segmentation fault seems related to the exit from a tab or browser with a plugin in use, so might be a broader problem than just for videos.

EDIT:
I installed the NoScript extension, which resulted in its being displayed in a new tab. But the xerrs.log showed those messages after logging 967 sets of messages:

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(<unknown>:25509): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_alloc_colors: assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_modify_bg: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_visual: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_new: assertion `GDK_IS_VISUAL (visual)' failed
But NoScript seems to work as well as ever.

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#464 Post by Walter Dnes »

rerwin wrote:I installed palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet in a new lucid

[...snip...]

The segmentation fault seems related to the exit from a tab or browser with a plugin in use, so might be a broader problem than just for videos.
You mentioned the SSE build, so I assume that you're running on a Pentium3-class machine, which does not support SSE2. Adobe Flash for linux has used SSE2 instructions for a long time. It will not work on a machine that doesn't support SSE2... period... end of story. What is the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on the problem machine?

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#465 Post by rerwin »

Walter Dnes wrote:You mentioned the SSE build, so I assume that you're running on a Pentium3-class machine, which does not support SSE2. Adobe Flash for linux has used SSE2 instructions for a long time. It will not work on a machine that doesn't support SSE2... period... end of story. What is the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on the problem machine?

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# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor	: 0
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 15
model		: 2
model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
stepping	: 7
cpu MHz		: 2392.047
cache size	: 512 KB
fdiv_bug	: no
hlt_bug		: no
f00f_bug	: no
coma_bug	: no
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 2
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up pebs bts cid xtpr
bogomips	: 4784.09
clflush size	: 64
cache_alignment	: 128
address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:
Thanks for pointing out the flashplayer constraint. I just now reran the flashplayer test with the non-SSE version, palemoon-27.5.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet, receiving the same error messages:

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/usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container: line 3:  5351 Segmentation fault      /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container-exec "$@"

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv

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#466 Post by Walter Dnes »

So the problem is not the machine. I took a look at the Gentoo ebuild (like Puppy .pet) of Adobe-Flash. Among the items listed for "NPAPI_RDEPEND" in the Gentoo ebuild is ">=sys-libs/glibc-2.4". I.e. it needs AT LEAST glibc-2.4 on Gentoo. Here's the full list. Ignore the "[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]" variable, which doesn't apply to Lucid Puppy.

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NPAPI_RDEPEND="
        dev-libs/atk[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        dev-libs/glib:2[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        dev-libs/nspr[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        dev-libs/nss[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        media-libs/fontconfig[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        media-libs/freetype[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        >=sys-libs/glibc-2.4
        x11-libs/cairo[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/gtk+:2[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libX11[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXcursor[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXext[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXrender[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXt[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/pango[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
Is there anything in the list that looks like a showstopper, besides glibc-2.4? According to Adobe's flashplayer-techspecs webpage http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplay ... specs.html the requirements for linux are...
  • YUM, TAR.GZ, RPM and APT packages for NPAPI and PPAPI
    Latest versions of Firefox or Google Chrome

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#467 Post by watchdog »

I also got aware of the problem. Using an old flashplayer (version 26.0.0.143) does not throw the problem. I am in puppy 4.31 (startdust).

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#468 Post by watchdog »

In stretch puppy closing a tab in palemoon containing flash content throws an error about missing libvdpau_i965.so. No package provides the missing lib. Flashplayer 26.0 is also affected but in some ways palemoon let see the flash content.

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Pale Moon with puppy linuxes - only 360p youtube html5

#469 Post by sindi »

Latest Pale Moon 27.5 in Lupu (Sulu) 2016 still plays youtube only 360p
Tahr with 27.4 same problem. Preferences, Content: - MSE stuff is enabled..

Seamonkey 2.4.6 and Chrome 41 offer all the resolutions but use too much RAM and I have 512MB. Smtube (I even tried version 17) only plays some Youtube videos. VLC from 2014 in Tahr does not help.

I would like 240p on older laptops and 480p or even 720p on 'new' ones (2007).

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Re: Pale Moon with puppy linuxes - only 360p youtube html5

#470 Post by Walter Dnes »

sindi wrote:Latest Pale Moon 27.5 in Lupu (Sulu) 2016 still plays youtube only 360p
Tahr with 27.4 same problem. Preferences, Content: - MSE stuff is enabled..
Youtube seems to remember previous settings, possibly via cookies. If you last set at 360, it'll try 360 next time, by default. Try a 1080P video, and force it to 1080P, or whatever. Hopefully, it'll remember 1080P next time E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dC6uJDNf64
  • Click on the "cogged gear" at the bottom right of the menu (Where I have "HD")
    Select "Quality"
    What choices does it show?
Here's what I get
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