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Walter Dnes · #406 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Sun 21 May 2017, 21:05

quirkian2new wrote:I am running a copy of 64bit palemoon 27.3 in Quirky SlaQ 8.1.6 x86_64 and Palemoon crashes often for no obvious reason.

When Palemoon crashes, it just cause the whole SLAQ OS hangs and the only solution is to unplug the electricity socket.

Are you running the official download or another version? What does "about:buildconfig" show for "Compiler" and for "Configure arguments"

quirkian2new · #407 Post by **quirkian2new** » Tue 23 May 2017, 12:01

I am running the official download. Here's the result :

about:buildconfig
Build Machine

PM4Linux
Build platform
target
x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
Build tools
Compiler Version Compiler flags
gcc 4.9.2 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wempty-body -Wpointer-to-int-cast -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits -Wno-unused -Wcast-align -std=gnu99 -fgnu89-inline -fno-strict-aliasing -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-math-errno -pthread -pipe
c++ 4.9.2 -Wall -Wempty-body -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsign-compare -Wwrite-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wcast-align -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-rtti -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-exceptions -fno-math-errno -std=gnu++0x -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -g -O2 -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -floop-parallelize-all -fpredictive-commoning -ftree-loop-distribution -ftree-vectorize -fomit-frame-pointer
Configure arguments

--enable-official-branding --enable-application=browser --enable-release '--enable-optimize=-O2 -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -floop-parallelize-all -fpredictive-commoning -ftree-loop-distribution -ftree-vectorize' --disable-installer --disable-updater --disable-debug --disable-necko-wifi --enable-devtools --enable-jemalloc --enable-shared-js --with-pthreads --enable-strip --x-libraries=/usr/lib64

Walter Dnes · #408 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Tue 23 May 2017, 20:07

I don't see anything obvious. You should probably try the official Pale Moon support forum, specifically the linux subforum https://forum.palemoon.org/viewforum.php?f=37

If you get a lockup, try "the magic SysReq key" first, for a cleaner, more graceful shutdown. See https://www.howtogeek.com/119127/use-th ... -commands/

Note: "SysReq" is usually also "PrintScreen" on PC keyboards. The reboot sequence is...

{ALT}{SysReq}R (and wait a few seconds)
{ALT}{SysReq}E (and wait a few seconds)
{ALT}{SysReq}I (and wait a few seconds)
{ALT}{SysReq}S (and wait a few seconds)
{ALT}{SysReq}U (and wait a few seconds)
{ALT}{SysReq}B

Write this down on a handy piece of paper. When you really need it, you will not be able to pop open Google to find the sequence.

belham2 · #409 Post by **belham2** » Wed 31 May 2017, 17:24

Hi all,

Am curious if anyone else is seeing crashes in the latest 32-bit Palemoon version? On certain sites (especially major news sites), Palemoon is crashing left and right, yet when visited with the 64-bit latest Palemoon version (in one of my woof-CE 64-bit builds), nothing happens and Palemoon just works.

The crashes have gotten so bad for me across the 32-bit puppy woof-CE build landscape that I've had to ditch Palemoon altogether, and have installed Opera's latest 32-bit browser. Though I am wary of blink-engine browsers (for many reasons), I've been pleasantly surprised at Opera. And, it hasn't crashed once on me, despite running many tabs with lots of stuff going on. In Palemoon 32-bit, I can't even run one tab on some sites without it just winking off (this applies in Xenial & tahr & Slacko and Dpup 32-bit builds from woof-CE, which I do fairly frequently).

Walter Dnes · #410 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Thu 01 Jun 2017, 23:00

belham2 wrote:Hi all,

Am curious if anyone else is seeing crashes in the latest 32-bit Palemoon version? On certain sites (especially major news sites), Palemoon is crashing left and right, yet when visited with the 64-bit latest Palemoon version (in one of my woof-CE 64-bit builds), nothing happens and Palemoon just works.

Nothing showing up in the official Pale Moon linux support forum https://forum.palemoon.org/viewforum.php?f=37 (for the official builds only), so this may be a WoofCE-specific issue. A few things to look at...

Are you using older libraries (i.e. an older Puppy) on the 32-bit machine?
Can you post the output of about:buildconfig from the 32 and 64 bit versions, so we can look for differences?
Try the 32-bit official tarball, available from http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/ You can install it in your home directory. For any random directory "fubar"
- download the tarball to $HOME
- mkdir fubar
- tar -C fubar -xvjf palemoon-27.3.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
Palemoon can be test-launched with the command
$HOME/fubar/palemoon/palemoon -no-remote -p

tallboy · #411 Post by **tallboy** » Fri 02 Jun 2017, 03:49

Walter Dnes wrote:If you get a lockup, try "the magic SysReq key" first, for a cleaner, more graceful shutdown.

howtogeek.com wrote:To use this key combination, your Linux kernel must have been compiled with the CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ compile option.

Sadly, many Puppys aren't, including mine...

tallboy

ac2011 · #412 Post by **ac2011** » Sun 04 Jun 2017, 09:33

I'm trying and failing to get HTML5 MP3 playback working in Pale Moon 27.3.0 under 32-bit Puppy Tahr. I'm using ffmpeg 3.3.1-static as /usr/bin/ffmpeg, which works fine standalone. HTML5 works in general (html5test.com gives a score of 396) but the relevant streaming codecs are shown as disabled/not working.

This page - http://hpr.dogphilosophy.net/test/ - shows that MP3 and Flac don't work. I'm not bothered about Flac but I need MP3 playback for duolingo.com, which I can't forcibly degrade to Flash (not that that's a great solution). Disabling MSE in the options has no positive effect - it just drops the HTML5 test score to 391.

Any hints as to what might be wrong? Is there an ffmpeg library that Pale Moon uses rather than the binary?

[I've posted this in the Pale Moon Linux forum too and it's awaiting moderation, but I don't think that forum gets many views]

Sailor Enceladus · #413 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Sun 04 Jun 2017, 13:08

belham2 wrote:Hi all,

Am curious if anyone else is seeing crashes in the latest 32-bit Palemoon version? On certain sites (especially major news sites), Palemoon is crashing left and right, yet when visited with the 64-bit latest Palemoon version (in one of my woof-CE 64-bit builds), nothing happens and Palemoon just works.

The crashes have gotten so bad for me across the 32-bit puppy woof-CE build landscape that I've had to ditch Palemoon altogether, and have installed Opera's latest 32-bit browser. Though I am wary of blink-engine browsers (for many reasons), I've been pleasantly surprised at Opera. And, it hasn't crashed once on me, despite running many tabs with lots of stuff going on. In Palemoon 32-bit, I can't even run one tab on some sites without it just winking off (this applies in Xenial & tahr & Slacko and Dpup 32-bit builds from woof-CE, which I do fairly frequently).

Yes, whenever I try Pale Moon I end up dropping it and going back to Firefox because Palemoon either ends up freezing or crashing or hitting my swapfile hard. I think brother Firefox 28 works better. Just tried PM again today and had another crash:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 597#956597

Interesting to know that this only happens in the 32-bit version (the laptop I'm using now is only 32-bit capable though).

belham2 · #414 Post by **belham2** » Sun 04 Jun 2017, 16:26

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
belham2 wrote:Hi all,

Am curious if anyone else is seeing crashes in the latest 32-bit Palemoon version? On certain sites (especially major news sites), Palemoon is crashing left and right, yet when visited with the 64-bit latest Palemoon version (in one of my woof-CE 64-bit builds), nothing happens and Palemoon just works.

The crashes have gotten so bad for me across the 32-bit puppy woof-CE build landscape that I've had to ditch Palemoon altogether, and have installed Opera's latest 32-bit browser. Though I am wary of blink-engine browsers (for many reasons), I've been pleasantly surprised at Opera. And, it hasn't crashed once on me, despite running many tabs with lots of stuff going on. In Palemoon 32-bit, I can't even run one tab on some sites without it just winking off (this applies in Xenial & tahr & Slacko and Dpup 32-bit builds from woof-CE, which I do fairly frequently).
Yes, whenever I try Pale Moon I end up dropping it and going back to Firefox because Palemoon either ends up freezing or crashing or hitting my swapfile hard. I think brother Firefox 28 works better. Just tried PM again today and had another crash:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 597#956597

Interesting to know that this only happens in the 32-bit version (the laptop I'm using now is only 32-bit capable though).

Hi Sailor,

Yeah, what is happening to you is exactly what was going on with me when trying to use Palemoon. It didn't matter if was the Palemoon included in the build, or if I directly downloaded Palemoon from its website, the darn thing would just crash at the weirdest times.

I've given up completely on it ( I remove it immediately if it is included in any build I do) and have been running with Opera. Short of the Opera gang obviously following everything we do (no matter how I set the browser to not feed 'em the goodies), the darn thing has been pretty fun. Both 32-bit and 64-bit. Of course, there's that blink engine fun stuff that happens in our puppies, but oh well, can't have everything, lol

tallboy · #415 Post by **tallboy** » Sun 04 Jun 2017, 17:38

I run the Palemoon 27.2.1 in LupuPlus 5.2.8.005-1 whitout any problems. Did you upgrade from a previous version to 27.3 when the problems started?

I don't know if my ramblings do any good, but I try anyway:
Do you run Palemoon with the Status bar (look in the Tools menu) activated? If so, you'll see a lot of loading of extra sites when you browse, I have removed links to some sites that slowed down the startup of Palemoon myself, among them google-analytics.
It may be a good idea to eliminate some of the 'excess luggage' by editing about:config. See http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/11/list-o ... eferences/
There are also some settings in Preferences that may improve the situation:
Deny storage of offline data, and clearing all stored data when closing Palemoon. (I am one of those who close my browser between sites visited)

jss83 · #416 Post by **jss83** » Wed 12 Jul 2017, 06:37

Any mirrors for downloading palemoon? The site is having some problem I think the download get stuck at 13%.

ally · #417 Post by **ally** » Wed 12 Jul 2017, 08:01

provide a link to the file you are trying please

jss83 · #418 Post by **jss83** » Wed 12 Jul 2017, 11:25

Was trying the 32 bit linux version and I remote uploaded it to create mirrors but even that didn't work, turns out the problem was on my end. Nm Sorry.

Walter Dnes · #419 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Thu 13 Jul 2017, 04:42

Pale Moon version 27.4.0 is available. For a list of functionality and security updates, see the announcement at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

If your distro does not carry Pale Moon, the mainline build, for Pentium4-class and higher machines, is available at http://linux.palemoon.org/

For Pentium3-class machines, the SSE-only build is downloadable at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE- ... 86.tar.bz2

Since this is not a mainstream build, it has to be installed manually. See the first post in thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530 for install instructions.

watchdog · #420 Post by **watchdog** » Thu 13 Jul 2017, 05:36

palemoon-27.4.0-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.4.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

See the following previous post for further advices:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 134#953134

EDIT:

palemoon-27.4.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.4.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

EDIT2:

palemoon-27.4.2-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.4.2-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

jss83 · #421 Post by **jss83** » Fri 14 Jul 2017, 10:41

This new palemoon update solved the twitter video problems.

anikin · #422 Post by **anikin** » Thu 27 Jul 2017, 07:54

Have been testing Palemoon 27.4.0 recently with some mixed results. It seems to be a vast improvement, on the other hand, It doesn't play videos on Fox News: http://video.foxnews.com However, version 26.5.0 (Atom) (my preferred version) does.

belham2 · #423 Post by **belham2** » Thu 27 Jul 2017, 08:28

anikin wrote:Have been testing Palemoon 27.4.0 recently with some mixed results. It seems to be a vast improvement, on the other hand, It doesn't play videos on Fox News: http://video.foxnews.com However, version 26.5.0 (Atom) (my preferred version) does.

This is what I've been saying for weeks on murga (in different threads) that something is terribly wrong with Palemoon. On many---and I mean "many" diff sites since I have tested & tried them, Palemoon just ups and crashes for no reason when trying to play videos from a wide range of sites. On other Linux forums, people are complaining about this a lot, but the developer(s) of Palemoon have seemed deaf about it even though people have been reporting it for some time now. The last most-stable Palemoon was 27.2, from then on, something has happened to Palemoon. This website video problem needs sorted out, as it happens with none of the other browsers I run. And I'm not the only one who has currently sh!t-canned Palemoon in favor of other browsers---until this problem can get sorted out.

Robert123 · #424 Post by **Robert123** » Thu 27 Jul 2017, 10:04

Tested 27.3 on thinkpad T42 on Devuan One - no problems with the site Anikin posted
http://video.foxnews.com/

quirkian2new · #425 Post by **quirkian2new** » Thu 27 Jul 2017, 15:32

Testing 64bit Palemoon 27.4.0 in latest Quirky8.2 It seems to be ok playing videos on Fox News: http://video.foxnews.com

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