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devx.sfs for Lupu528 & Precise571

Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 15:23
by Ether
Hello.

I hope this is the correct forum for my question.

I've been using Lupu528 for several years and have been amazed at how it always works on the dozen or so machines I've used it on (mostly for recovery issues and learning about Linux).

I've long wanted to teach myself how to compile applications from source, since there are a few apps I want that I cannot find packages for.

Today I started. I installed (frugal) lupu_528.sfs + lupu_devx_528-4.sfs and was able to get both of the "Hello World" examples at http://bkhome.org/genie/index.html working.

Then I installed (frugal) puppy_precise_5.7.1.sfs + devx_precise_5.7.1.sfs and it does not work. When I type "valac hello.gs" I get the error message "bash: valac: command not found".

I have the 571 devx sfs configured to load at bootup.

I apologize if there is a FAQ for devx installation and use issues; I could not find it.

Thank you.

Re: devx.sfs for Lupu528 & Precise571

Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 16:11
by L18L
Ether wrote: When I type "valac hello.gs" I get the error message "bash: valac: command not found".
http://bkhome.org/genie/index.html wrote:NOTICE
These Genie/Vala pages are no longer being updated, as I have defected. I have found BaCon to be more suited to my purposes: http://bkhome.org/bacon/
Maybe this is explaining why there is no vala in precise5.7.1
Why not use BaCon?

Re: devx.sfs for Lupu528 & Precise571

Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 18:06
by Ether
http://bkhome.org/genie/index.html wrote:NOTICE
These Genie/Vala pages are no longer being updated, as I have defected. I have found BaCon to be more suited to my purposes: http://bkhome.org/bacon/
Duh. How did I miss that ??
Maybe this is explaining why there is no vala in precise5.7.1
Most likely.
Why not use BaCon?
Actually, I'm not presently interested in writing my own apps.

I was just testing to see if the sfs was installed correctly.

What I actually am interested in are existing apps for which the source code is available, but there is no available binary distro for Puppy.

Can someone point me to a FAQ or a tutorial that walks me through a simple example of taking downloaded source code and compiling it into a working app in Lupu 528 or Precise 571 or Slacko57?

The app I am ultimately interested in is CVXOPT
http://cvxopt.org/install/index.html


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Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 20:18
by Semme
If you'd rather not build >> binaries. Any deps could be worked out with (L)ldd.

Lucid, sans deps >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cv ... ld/1422495

Precise, "" >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cv ... ld/3044529

"deps"

Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 21:08
by Ether
Please, What are "deps" ?

I am not a Linux guru. Still learning.

Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 21:26
by Semme
I'm not one either. Take a read through that second link..

Posted: Mon 21 Apr 2014, 22:35
by Ether
Semme wrote:I'm not one either.
OK, but what did you mean by this:

"Any deps could be worked out"

What are "deps" and why do they need to be worked out?

These are honest questions. I have no idea what you meant.

The ldd page is Greek to me.

Thank you.

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Posted: Wed 23 Apr 2014, 19:15
by Semme
:D Gotta be tenacious. The item you're interested in is an involved, cli app(lication). Over @ FIVE?

Posted: Wed 23 Apr 2014, 19:32
by Ether
Semme wrote:The item you're interested in is an involved, cli app(lication). Over @ FIVE?
Sorry, I've lost my secret decoder ring. But thanks anyway.

I'll look for help elsewhere.

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Posted: Wed 23 Apr 2014, 19:55
by Semme
Hand holding aside, no problemo "massless medium" dude. The binary runs fine aboard 528.

Posted: Wed 23 Apr 2014, 23:50
by 8-bit
Just jumping in here to answer "What are deps".
Deps or dep is short for dependencies.
When you get the source code for an application, you may find that the developer has used various other support files needed for compiling the source into an application.

Posted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 00:39
by Ether
8-bit wrote:Just jumping in here to answer "What are deps".
Deps or dep is short for dependencies.
When you get the source code for an application, you may find that the developer has used various other support files needed for compiling the source into an application.
Thank you. I eventually figured that out.

When you're new at something, jargon and abbreviations and incomplete sentences can be a real impediment to learning.


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Posted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 12:04
by Semme
Jargon and abbreviations? That's OK. Those *spot-on* links were posted for your benefit, not mine.