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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2014, 11:53    Post_subject:  New PUPPY delivery method - How is Performance differing
Sub_title: For full install PUPs, what are best practices for good performance and usage
 

Performance on differing drive need be in the back of the mind for any developer as he plans for how to provide a PUP that will yield the kind of performance they feel is acceptable.

Puppy Linux intends to be general purpose system, which can run in one of several configurations; namely DVD Live mode, Frugal install model and Full install mode

The practice and delivery of this technology has been with us for years with members free to select which mode they desire. There is a level of difficulty that occurs as one moves from Live mode, to Frugal mode, to Full mode and most everyone using these modes understand them and how to get to each of the modes operationally.

A new method has been introduced into the PUP delivery schedule where if one of the new distro is used, it is NOT delivered in the traditional container. It is delivered in a previously unused format versus the ISO format. Further, in its installation, it is aimed not for DVDs or for HDD, rather, it is aimed for USB sticks. When this install occurs, this distro RUNS AS A FULL install of PUPPY bypassing any use of RAM centric methodology. This method of delivery and running of PUPPY was introduced by the new Quirky-Tahr.

This makes for a reasonable approach to running PUPs. And provides a level of portability which can be deployed with proper system peripheral config changes, when necessary moving from PC to PC.

But, there is an issue, which up until now, is not approached in understanding: It has nothing to do with the PUP that is delivered, but has to do with the target device PUPPY is to run from: namely USB as it appears to be the only device the developer currently has announced support!.

This thread request your help in understanding!

USB are splendid little keyring size units we can carry around in our pockets. But there has been no discussion on their comparative performance(s) and how they actually relate to the performance of existing HDDs, hybrid HDDs or the newer SSDs.

Thus this threads begins a request for understanding of what it means, performance wise, to have a full install of PUPPY on
  • USB 1.1
  • USB2
  • USB3
  • traditional HDD
  • hybrid HDD
  • SSD
Questions
  1. If you are to do a full install, how do you rank performance expectations?
  2. And, should performance be of importance in it use for full installs?
This concern arises from some reported problems that members are experiencing in use of USB sticks as a primary system operations device.

Please share your ideas and references.
Edited: Corrected SDD to SSD (solid state drive). Thanks @GreenGeek

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2014, 13:54    Post_subject: Re: New PUPPY delivery method - How is Performance differing
Sub_title: For full install PUPs, what are best practices for good performance and usage
 

gcmartin wrote:
Thus this threads begins a request for understanding of what it means, performance wise, to have a full install of PUPPY on
  • USB 1.1
  • USB2
  • USB3
  • traditional HDD
  • hybrid HDD
  • SDD

Hi GC, did you mean SSD?
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2014, 14:33    Post_subject: Re: New PUPPY delivery method - How is Performance differing
Sub_title: For full install PUPs, what are best practices for good performance and usage
 

gcmartin wrote:
Thus this threads begins a request for understanding of what it means, performance wise, to have a full install of PUPPY on
  • USB 1.1
  • USB2
  • USB3
  • traditional HDD
  • hybrid HDD
  • SDD
Questions
  1. If you are to do a full install, how do you rank performance expectations?
  2. And, should performance be of importance in it use for full installs?


1) Roughly, in the reverse order of your list.
2) It is up to the user to rank the importance of the "performance" factor.
ie for some having everything in a nail-size USB stick is paramount while for others anything less than "instant" will not do.

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