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[charlie6]

Hi ETP,
thanks for that nice tuto !
Success ! boot seems faster than using the USB stick !

[ETP]

Hi Charlie,

Good news all round. Thanks for posting the BIOS shots.

You do not need that "rootwait" with a fast HDD or SSD, so you can remove it. That would then give you:

[Billtoo]

When I installed Blue Pup V2 to the usb 3.0 flashdrive that is running
on my lenovo desktop I installed to a second usb 3.0 flashdrive while I was at it.
I installed my usual applications from QPM to the lenovo flashdrive
then took a snapshot.
I copied the audit directory from my lenovo install to my spare usb
3.0 flashdrive which is now running on my 10 year old compaq desktop.
After booting up on the compaq I chose to restore the snapshot and
rebooted, after that was finished and another reboot all the
applications are installed.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 10 Apr 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
oem: ATI RADEON 9200
X Server: Xorg Driver: modesetting
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Core 0: @2800 1: @2800 MHz

I find that a fast usb 3.0 flashdrive works well when it's plugged
into a usb 2.0 port, I don't have anything with usb 1.1 to test.

Still having fun

[8-bit]

I found that I have my Blue USB stick connected to a USB 1.1 port on my PC with the USB 2.0 ports being on the back of the PC on an add-on card.
When I fired it up this time though, the fancy tile screen got stuck waiting to connect to some site. This seemed to bring the display of a full tile screen to a halt.
Has anyone else experienced this behavior and is there a work around other than me exiting full screen and selecting a site I had bookmarked?
Also though, I may have to do a full remake of that USB stick as I had a mouse problem with a button on the mouse that inadvertently selected Move when I went to copy the library directory to another device.
I bailed on the Move and selected Copy answering Yes to merging contents and also to a number of files.
Now the directory sizes do not match and being unsure of what might be missing, A remake of the USB stick may be the easiest way to recover.

[ETP]

Hi 8-bit,

The problem with the Metro extension started last night. It is not related to Blue and shows up in fresh installs of the extension in both Chrome and Chromium.

The problem is server related. It is not clear at present whether it is coding error, a redirection attack or someone forgot to feed the hamster.

It is a matter of waiting for normal service to be resumed.

[Billtoo]

[ETP]

Normal Service is Resumed.
(Hamster not dead - just sleeping!)

[step]

[ETP]

Hi step,

Thanks for reporting your success with the 16Meg boot image.

[8-bit]

I am using Blue version 3 from an 8gig flash drive on my desktop and the boot to the tile screen takes a long time. I determined that this is due to the flash drive being plugged into a USB port on the front of the PC.
Those ports show up as USB 1.1 ports.
This desktop also has an add-in USB card/interface at the back of the PC.
I checked it and it is shown as being USB 2.0.
But even though the flash drive is set up to be seen as a USB hard drive, it does not show up in my PC's boot menu when plugged into those USB ports!
It does show up on the desktop if I boot from the Grub menu to another version of Puppy on my main hard drives.
I would have thought that the change in version 3 would have allowed the flash drive to be seen as a USB hard drive by the PC irregardless of what USB port it is plugged into on the same PC it was made on.
So on this desktop PC, I guess I will have to settle with using USB 1.1 and the slow speed associated with it even though the PC has USB 2.0 ports on an add-in card.

[gcmartin]

8-bit,this might help by using 2 USB identical sticks, both created as described in this thread.
Place one USB stick in a slow 1.1 port. Modify that USB stick's boot config file to point to a 2nd stick's F2FS partition. Plug the 2nd USB stick in a 2.0 port. This may work for you allowing faster system boot and operation. The first stick merely, then, is only a boot kicker to the faster USB port.

Hope this helps

[ETP]

Hi 8-bit,

[ETP]

Optional Upgrade for Blue Pup V2 & V3.
(bluepup-sp1.pet)

The attached pet enhances the above versions by providing easier use in the form of four screen “hot sides”. The sides are bound to specific actions which trigger when the mouse pointer touches a side. All hotkeys and key combinations remain active and can still be used.

1. Right hand side – Launches the desktop plus its panel. (This is the equivalent of pressing the right hand Windows or menu key.)

2. Left hand side – Launches the Metro interface. (This is the equivalent of pressing the left hand Windows key.)

3. Bottom of screen – Toggles Metro interface between full screen and windowed mode. It provides an alternative to pressing F11. It also comes in handy with VLC and Abiword.

4. Top of screen – Returns browser to Metro interface when you are in another site such as the “Puppy Forum”. (The equivalent of pressing Ctrl+T)

Technical:
The triggers are instant, which I preferred to requiring a short hover of the pointer. There is however a brief cooling off period to prevent duplicate actions. In use, just briefly kiss the desired screen side with the mouse pointer.

Install/Uninstall:
To install download, click on the .pet then restart X.
Uninstall via PPM.

Final Thoughts:
IMHO the addition of this dotpet to Blue lifts it into another league. It becomes more than a match for the Windows 8.1 Update released on 08th April which is to be endured rather than enjoyed.
Enjoy.
****Edit: 18th April****
The cooling off periods require further explanation. For the top & sides they are 4 seconds. For the bottom of the screen, (F11) – 2 seconds. Until those periods have expired you cannot re-trigger an action.
Tip:
If your pointer keeps inadvertently bumping into a screen edge, reduce the mouse sensitivity to make it less manic.

[step]

Thanks for this SP1. I agree, it enhances usability. Left and bottom triggers work as advertised. So does the top trigger, although your description somewhat misled me into thinking that it would be smart enough not to open a new tab each time it triggers. You did say "equivalent of Ctrl+T", to be fair, and that's exactly what it does. The right trigger does nothing on my netbook 1024x600. The right window key does work to minimize the metro interface and start the shortcut panel.

[step]

Oh well, today SP1 isn't working but in a different way. Right trigger works as advertised. Bottom trigger stopped working - does nothing. Left trigger works as advertised. Top trigger stopped working, I think; when chromium is full screen and my mouse kisses the top border chromium displays the "you've gone full screen" popup; if chromium isn't full screen moving the mouse to top trigger does nothing at all.

Note: same netbook as in previous post. Tested after restarting blue pup - so did for previous post too.

edit: No, the right trigger still isn't working. It appeared to work when there were no apps but chromium running. Now that multiple apps are running right trigger seems to switch to one of those apps instead of opening the shortcut panel.

edit 2: it keeps restoring the YASSM select-share pulldown dialog window regardless of which other apps are also running.