Blue Pup V6 Released 11th Oct 2014 32-bit

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

Thanks for your script post.

With regard to your method (a) you will need to explain to users how to execute a script with variables as many will never have done so.
At the end of the script you echo:

Your USB stick on $USBstick in ready for use.

That may or may not be so. It totally ignores the possible need to edit syslinux.cfg.
Your script needs to mirror ALL the instructions given here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 134#767134

At the end of your post you commented :

BUT desktop came back NOT as BLUE but instead Tahr.

That rather proves my point as you booted into a copy of QT rather than Blue Pup V3.

@ 8-bit,

I do wonder if a Blue flash drive would boot on a PC that had UEFI.

Yes, from legacy USB3 mode, but you will need to enter the BIOS at boot time and select that. The stats at the bottom of my previous post are from a UEFI pc.

I am also trying to see if the latest version of Gparted which is around .18 would allow resizing of an f2fs partition.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gparted+features&l=1#

[Ted Dog]

Hate to be a stick.. but why do you not post md5sum as part of the text block.. Could not get to it without signing in to NSA-Google.. Having it in the same place as download only allows someone to fiddle with BOTH...

other site does not even have md5sum.. my download jumped from 59% to done way to quickly

[ETP]

Hate to be a stick.. but why do you not post md5sum as part of the text block.. Could not get to it without signing in to NSA-Google.. Having it in the same place as download only allows someone to fiddle with BOTH...

other site does not even have md5sum.. my download jumped from 59% to done way to quickly

Hi Ted Dog,
Done as requested. I think Google was busy as it would not let me view it but is now O/K again.

[gcmartin]

Your script needs to mirror ALL the instructions given here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 134#767134

At the end of your post you commented :

BUT desktop came back NOT as BLUE but instead Tahr.

That rather proves my point as you booted into a copy of QT rather than Blue Pup V3.

What I offered was an idea for automating a dialogue to add some consistency in user creation of the sticks from the download fileset. Its an idea, only.

The post tries to show a path to get locality that ended changing background from a BLUE to a TAHR background without ever rebooting after FirstRUN use. Thus, there is something wrong as I had not encountered this is any past distros.

Again, this is trying to provide visual and repeatable steps in getting to a working desktop.

BTW, I did read your link even before trying the latest and do not see anything there which is inconsistent with what is shown. If there is something missed in those steps taken, please advise and I will retest and present.

Here to help

[gcmartin]

Without taking sides on which sites are better, Google is still the fastest download site in the world. IBM's is the only other in the world, better/equal.
Biggest problem file owner have hit in the past is insuring to set privileges so that anyone can download content they provide.

Again, this is neither a positional or a recommendation.

FYI
Edit: removed reference to class of download sites

[gcmartin]

BLUE has been running for several days, now, continuous excepting for a reboot to check desktop views. I do understand that this is a very first roll-out as we work thru some of the issues.

The only other observation, I can share is that the laptop does NOT power down when the lid is closed overnight, OOTB.

Blue, is otherwise stable and seemingly works fine.

Thanks @ETP for what you're doing.
Edit: added OOTB

[ggg]

To be frank...

Some readers will believe anything.

Here to help.

[Ted Dog]

ggg ???

md5sum worked crazy internet..

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

Your script is a good idea but as you acknowledge would need a bit more work. I realise that you are trying to assist.
I am however still struggling to understand exactly what you meant by a couple of things.

Message to restart X acknowledged, BUT desktop came back NOT as BLUE but instead Tahr.

I took that literally to mean the “Tahr desktop

[gcmartin]

... What exactly changed and precisely what behaviour had you not encountered in past distros?

This is easy to replicate. Just need to xz to pristine USB. Boot, Cancel browser. Menu>Setup>FirstRUN. Fill in new hostname, set locality, keyboard. OK to follow instructions. Restart X. That'll do it. Easy to observe. In fact, if I had not taken my FATDOG down, I could run this in the KVM client in short order versus the multiple machines needed to so this.

i'll get to it late tonight if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

Hope this and the post i presented was clear on the steps with the pictures enclosed in that post for review.

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

I am still failing to comprehend your points here. You seem to be saying that you just followed the setup instructions in the first post of this thread which are as follows:

• If you first attempt to boot the stick on the same pc or laptop that you used to create it, make sure that before doing so, you shut down the device and remove all mains power from it for a couple of minutes.
  This will ensure that your BIOS refreshes its view of the stick and sees it as bootable.
  
  
  Setup Procedure:
  
  1. Boot from the stick to the Metro interface and then exit it by pressing Alt+F4.
  
  2. Access Setup/Quicksetup via the JWM menu and complete the first-run settings as usual.
  
  3. If Xorg wizard kicks in at any point complete it.
  
  4. If you are using an LCD display, launch Fontwizard from the JWM/desktop menu, tick all boxes & then click on apply. Restart X.
  
  5. If the network icon in the tray has a red X through it, right click it to setup your network settings. Delete any existing profile then at the bottom select Ethernet or wireless as appropriate.
  
  6. Adjust your sound volume by clicking on that tray icon.
  
  N/B By default the Cups service is disabled. Enable it if and when you wish to print.

I remain foxed by the two items I quoted. Perhaps I need stronger medication!

[gcmartin]

Thanks @ETP. That's exactly what was done on the laptop as that post shows.

The desktop needed to restart because the hostname change needed to take place after FirstRUN. The environment variable had not reflected the change until after the desktop restart.

Are you suggesting that you are NOT getting the same results I shared by following those steps outlined in the post?

Seems there is another member named @GGG who either has the problem or is derailing.

Will followup soon as I can. I will need to recreate a pristine stick and capture results as I did for you and presented in that post.

Before I destroy the stick, below is picture of the desktop that was changed from its former.

Hope this helps ( at least until I get some time to retrace the steps)

[Billtoo]

I did a new install of V2 and added radky's FbBox-1.0_32Bit.pet +
Quirky-libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.pet, I also installed icewm + icewm themes
from QPM.
I edited the keys and preferences files for icewm and put them in the
hidden .icewm directory in /root

The new key assignments are:
key "Alt+e" thunderbird
key "Alt+s" skype
key "Alt+p" vlc
key "Alt+t" tickr
key "Alt+n" chromium-browser
key "Alt+o" PupSnap

The left windows key brings up the puppy menu.

Alt+left arrow and Alt+right arrow to move back and forth within a tab.
Ctrl+1 +2 to move back and forth between open tabs.

I can't add,edit or remove tiles, clicking or right clicking in the
upper right portion of the sceen on or near the Blue Pup logg doesn't bring up
the proper screen (in jwm either) but I have been able to add,edit or
remove tiles in an earlier install of Blue Pup on a different pc.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I moved the flashdrive to a pc with ati graphics and just locating
the mouse pointer over the Puppy logo in the upper right brought up
the menu to add tiles,I added the Distrowatch tile, it doesn't work on this pc
with intel graphics.
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I haven't figured out how to change the key assignments in openbox yet.
*******************************************************************************

The flashdrive is 16gb so in gparted I formatted the sdb3 partition to
f2fs, took a snapshot and copied my audit folder to sdb3 and the main hard drive too.

Anyhow, having fun

[ETP]

@ gcmartin,

Thanks for posting that image. A picture is always worth a thousand words and I now understand what you meant by “Tahr

[step]

Hi step,

90 seconds is way too quick for your card to have imaged correctly and I am not clear why you targeted the device node rather than the device letter?
EDIT:

Actually I didn't. My SDC card device letter is mmc0p, the device nodes are mmc0p1 and mmc0p2. I got a cheap USB card reader and re-imaged my SD card from the reader. This time it took about 16 minutes. Unplugged all devices but the reader, rebooted, ... here I am writing this post from blue pup V3!

Great job, thank you so much. I really like your choices. And QT was already my primary OS, so I feel that blue pup is a real advancement of the state of the art.

Note on first time experience: after running Xorg wizard blue pup booted into the tile screen. network wasn't connected. I immediately ran the first boot wizard and restarted X. Again it went straight into the tile screen. Network disconnected. Network wizard. Connected.

A number of members have queried BK’s use of f2fs in QT and Blue Pup although in all fairness his scripts do offer a choice between ext4 & f2fs. Posted below are my stats from the last few years which may be of interest. These are only “read

[step]

Your second screen shot tells me that the Metro extension has updated to 1.02 which has some improvements. You can induce an update by entering developer mode if it fails to do so.

Can you elaborate on that? What are the steps to update the Metro extension? I'm new to Chromium.
EDIT: never mind, found it under Settings/Extensions (left side).

[ETP]

Hi step,

It is good to hear that you are now up and running.

I wonder if I could boot blue pup from a USB2 key targeting the f2fs partition on a USB3 key plugged into the express port card... Time to experiment.
Anyway, thank you again for blue pup!

Yes, but you may as well put it on the SSD. That is one way that I run it on both my XP box and a recent 8.1 box with an 840.

It is very easy to do and is described here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 231#763231

Have fun.

[gcmartin]

High Step!

... I recently got a Samsung 840 evo 128GB SSD and I'm trying to decide which OS/fs combo is best for it. ... USB3 is available as an add-in express port card, but the BIOS can't boot from it. I wonder if I could boot blue pup from a USB2 key targeting the f2fs partition on a USB3 key plugged into the express port card... Time to experiment. ...

Over last weekend, I did just that...experiment. This is what I found out.
Modifying the config found in the /boot folder of USB partition1 you'll need to point to the correct partitions where the full-install partition is. Standard is "sdb2". In my case, I duplicated sdb2 to a logical partition "sdb6". And, it booted. Be sure that rootwait and rw remain as they are REQUIRED. One example allow system to boot sdb6 is as follows:

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# Boot Blue Pup ETP 25th March 2014
default /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb6 rootwait rw
# Original systemboot instruction follows
# default /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 rootwait rw 

I see no reason you could not replicate sdb2 to any other partition your system could see at boot time and have your system boot by modifying the bootmanager config appropriately.

Here to help

[charlie6]

Hi ETP,
thanks for these Blue Tahr derivatives !
i got Blue v.2 running nice (installed on an 8GB USB stick from the image as described on page 1 this thread; the whole 8GB stick has been f2fs formated before install);
- booted nice on a COMPAQ desktop, and now does not boot anymore on the very same desktop ...just a flashing dash prompt without any message;
- now it continues booting on a Dell620 laptop;
- it does not boot on other PC's where another USB stick with syslinux 3.73 boots nice;

Now i'm a bit puzzled as it has booted on the COMPAQ PC, and now it does'nt anymore ...

Thnsk for ant advice,
Charlie

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reading the above post (thanks gcmartin !!)

editing the syslinux.cfg file in sdb1 like this:
syslinux.cfg was

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# Boot Blue Pup ETP March 2014
default /vmlinuz root=PARTUUID=123456-78 rootwait rw 

edited syslinux.cfg:

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# Boot Blue Pup ETP March 2014
#default /vmlinuz root=PARTUUID=123456-78 rootwait rw
default /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 rootwait rw 

does not solve that question ...see next post

[charlie6]

Hi again,
(continuing my above post)
the new syslinux.cfg allowed to boot only once on the COMPAQ PC;

i afterwards plugged the USB stick on another desktop (also booting on anther stick having syslinux3.73 in /sdb1), and got nothing but tre fashing dash prompt;

back again on the COMPAQ desktop ...and does not boot (only got the flashing dash prompt)

...??
thanks for any advice
charlie