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Blue Pup V6 Released 11th Oct 2014 32-bit

Posted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 16:48
by ETP
The latest version of Blue Pup (V6)-Released 11th Oct 2014 starts here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 020#803020
A slideshow of V4/V5/V6) can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/ ... slide=id.p

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Mon 03 Mar 2014 - (V1)
This is the first non-accessibility Puplet that I have attempted and as it transpired the simplest!
Inspiration for it came in the form of Windows 8.1, with its ability to switch between a traditional desktop and the “Metro

Blue Pup – (V1 Released 3rd March 2014)

Posted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 16:51
by ETP
Reserved for Additional info, tips & FAQ:
A summary of the six versions is to be found here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 671#768671

An optional upgrade for Blue Pup V2 & V3 (bluepup-sp1.pet) can be found here: (Released 16th April 2014)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 604#771604
The pet enhances these versions by providing easier use in the form of four screen “hot sides

Posted: Mon 03 Mar 2014, 17:28
by ally

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 18:22
by Ted Dog
Why just why would someone want a windows8 work a like...

However I will download it anyway just for the extra setup stuff.. I want to play my Amazon prime videos again and without chrome and newer flash it does not work.

Looks like a great effort.... Fat Quirky6 is born... or Fat tahr quirky puppy .

If you need a icon my friend has a dog that is fatter then tall and has tiny legs.

Blue Pup – (V1 Released 3rd March 2014)

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 19:11
by ETP
Ted Dog wrote:Why just why would someone want a windows8 work a like...

However I will download it anyway just for the extra setup stuff.. I want to play my Amazon prime videos again and without chrome and newer flash it does not work.

Looks like a great effort.... Fat Quirky6 is born... or Fat tahr quirky puppy .

If you need a icon my friend has a dog that is fatter then tall and has tiny legs.
Hi Ted Dog,

Does your friend’s dog sport a Blue rinse by any chance? :lol:

Seriously though, I rather expected to get shot at dawn for this one. :lol:

My thinking behind this release is to offer the bling that is fashionable and likely to attract youngsters to try and experience the benefits of Linux. Witness their obsession with smart-phones and fondle slabs. If we fail to keep pace with the times and only major on code and functionality at the expense of form, we will stand little chance of attracting the next generation to Linux who will perceive the traditional desktop as something archaic only suited to geeks or grandfathers.

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 20:00
by musher0
Hello, ETP.

As for me, I really don't care much about whether this new "canine" has a simili-
whine-dose interface or not. The interface could even be a crystal ball you rub this
way or that way! :lol:

On a more serious tone:
I can imagine and respect the hard work that you obviously put in this derivative.

That said:
In this "canine", how much attention has been paid to ironing out the traditional soft
points of Puppy -- occasional problems at shutdown and with initial pupsave creation?
(As reported many times on this forum.)

And a derived question: Can it use a pupsave? If not, why not? Anything wrong now
with Puppy's previous frugal concept?

Finally, is this a 32-bit or a 64-bit Puppy?

Thanks in advance for your answers and best regards.

musher0

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 20:42
by Billtoo
Ted Dog wrote:Why just why would someone want a windows8 work a like...

However I will download it anyway just for the extra setup stuff.. I want to play my Amazon prime videos again and without chrome and newer flash it does not work.

Looks like a great effort.... Fat Quirky6 is born... or Fat tahr quirky puppy .

If you need a icon my friend has a dog that is fatter then tall and has tiny legs.
I added the iStart extentsion to Google Chrome in Fatdog64, it's working okay.

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 20:53
by Ted Dog
sorry ETP but Billtoo did you get a chrome pepper or chromium that runs newer flash player with 64bits? 32bit Quirky6 has horrible support for video.. where I can get both fd64 machines play videos well even witbout drivers by hardware companies.

Not really interested In turning my Win8 hardware back to look like Win8 but I think a linux take on the idea could be useful... for others..

Blue Pup – (V1 Released 3rd March 2014)

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 21:10
by ETP
Hi musher0,

QT is a full install to a partition. It makes no difference whether that partition is on a stick, card or disk. As such there is no pupsave file. Barry’s inbuilt snapshot facility provides for backup and restore.
It is a 32-bit distro but I would prefer 64-bit. We will have to wait and see whether Barry explores that route. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Puppy’s previous frugal concept. QT is just an alternative, albeit a very quick one, which is similar to the majority of linux installs but smaller.
In testing with a variety of USB sticks plus installs to SSD I have not experienced any freezes or shutdown problems. In fact shutdown is remarkably quick. May I suggest that you give QT or Blue Pup a try to see how they compare with a traditional Pup?

Posted: Tue 04 Mar 2014, 21:49
by Ted Dog
No freinds dog is standard brown/tan Chihuahua. If I had a blue heeler I would use it for a bluRay puppylinux spinoff.. Already plan to change desktop icon for bluray multisession to a blue color.

Posted: Thu 06 Mar 2014, 21:43
by slavvo67
Problems installing to USB...

Well, I wanted to try it. After following the BK instructions above numerous times, I have to post here for help getting it installed and running. I've used the Quirky installer numerous times without issue, but it seems the manual way isn't working for me. Tried it in Quirky Tahr and Precise 5.7.1. I tried f2fs and Ext2.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Additional note, it seems the sync command doesn't do anything after the install.

Blue Pup – (V1 Released 3rd March 2014)

Posted: Thu 06 Mar 2014, 22:13
by ETP
Hi slavvo67,

If the Linux method is not working for you I suggest that you try the Windows method of getting it onto a USB stick using 7-Zip to decompress the 8GB image and then placing the image on the stick with win32diskimager.

The stick should first be formatted as fat32 so that Windows and win32diskimager can see it. You can use windows to do that. Also give it a label so that in “My Computer

Blue Pup (V1 Released 3rd March 2014)

Posted: Fri 07 Mar 2014, 01:48
by Billtoo
Installed to a 16gb SDHC card.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky Tahr, version 6.0.5
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

I formatted the card fat32 and set the boot flag,then in my Quirky 6.0.5 install I did "xz
--decompress --stdout blue_pup_v1_8gb.img.xz > /dev/sdg" + "sync" in
the terminal, sdg wasn't mounted while this was done.

Shutdown and rebooted from the SDHC card.

It's working okay so far.

EDIT:
My SDHC card is plugged into an usb adapter.

Blue Pup (V1 Released 3rd March 2014)

Posted: Fri 07 Mar 2014, 09:52
by ETP
Hi Billtoo,

Many thanks for testing a Blue Pup install to a 16 GB SDHC card. It is good to know that the default timings in the “inter

Posted: Sat 08 Mar 2014, 17:50
by slavvo67
I still can't get this to boot, even using Billtoo's way. I didn't try the Windows suggestion as I keep the Windows box secure for work only.

For now, I guess I'll sit by and wish you well on your distro. I'll let you know how I fix this....

Oh, wait... I see you need a 16gb usb? I was trying with an 8... :oops:

Best,

Slavvo67

Blue Pup (V2 Released 13th March 2014)

Posted: Thu 13 Mar 2014, 14:43
by ETP
Version 2 is now available. The install, setup and key combinations remain as detailed in this thread’s original post.

Main Changes since V1

1. In pursuit of speed, xload and the freememapplet tray have been disabled. In addition the number of desktop icons has been reduced to just two. (Rox & Partview)
Partview gives a more comprehensive view of space on all volumes as and when needed. In effect it replaces the freememapplet tray.

2. To compensate for the reduction in the number of desktop icons, a new Gtk panel has been introduced to the desktop. It is not launched at startup but is launched or raised when the RH Windows key or menu key is pressed.

The panel contains icons for Skype, VLC & Thunderbird providing a choice between using key combinations or simply clicking on the relevant icon. If desired, it can also be navigated using the four arrow keys then pressing “Enter

Posted: Thu 13 Mar 2014, 16:18
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
I did something similar using GTKDialog and Conky.
I called it CosmoUI. Many thought it was a joke!!
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82287
So my correct in understanding your Metro interface is generated thru Chrome/Chromium?

Posted: Thu 13 Mar 2014, 17:43
by ETP
puppyluvr wrote::D Hello,
I did something similar using GTKDialog and Conky.
I called it CosmoUI. Many thought it was a joke!!
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82287
So my correct in understanding your Metro interface is generated thru Chrome/Chromium?
Hi puppyluvr,
That was very nice work. We both seem to have benefited from Lobster's & kros54's earlier work. :wink:
Chromium does indeed provide the full screen Metro interface as stated in the first two posts in this thread.
The main problem which is addressed in this Pup, when running the browser full screen and in the absence of activeX, is the switching between the two interfaces.

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 08:14
by gcmartin
Has anyone seen the Mozilla Beta that has the Metro interface?

As some may already have read, there is a beta...but, for Windows, development has stopped because either no one understood it or too many are hung on the old way of using the browser?

Reason for not moving to general release, is that they, Mozilla management, have NOT seen the expected number of people downloading and testing.

Is there a PET with this beta already in BLue?

Blue Pup (V2 Released 13th March 2014)

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 09:18
by ETP
Hi gcmartin,

This Pup does not contain that beta. It uses Chromium plus the “New metro tab Chrome extension version 1.0.1