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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Mar 2014, 09:55    Post subject: Integrating Portable-wine as a platform  

Hi shinobar,

Thank you for the instructions. I tried them and they successfully enabled me to open both an installed xp program and a portable xp program via menu entries. There was a slight delay in opening the installed program, less than a second; none noticeable for the portable application. More than a fair trade off for the advantages your application provides. Thank you again.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Mar 2014, 19:46    Post subject: winetricks in Portable-wine? (Solved, sort of)  

Hi again,

Does Portable Wine include winetricks?

If it does, how do you call it?

if it doesn't, how do you install it?

mikesLr

Edit: winetricks is merely a bash-script which in Puppy versions of wine that include it, and in winetrick pets is usually (always?) located in the /usr/sbin folder. The maintainer of the current version of the script --it can be downloaded as a text file and/or copied to a blank bash-script file-- suggests placing it in the /usr/bin folder. To do either in Portable-wine, first right-click its icon and select open to view its contents. Then right click the SFS and select mount. Once mounted, files can be copied anywhere in its structure. Unmount when finished. So it should be easy to install both winetricks and an appropriate desktop file to create a menu entry.
I have not, however, done this because currently winetricks can only be run via a terminal as the GUI is broken. The break is not in winetricks but rather appears to be a problem relating to zenity which the winetricks script calls to generate the GUI. My exploration substituting various scripts showed their interchangability, but failed to produce a working GUI in any current Puppy. The last functioning winetricks GUI was in Lupu, using a wine-pet specifically built for it, wine-1.3.x, AFAIR. That problem is not unique to Puppy Linux, and AFAIK has not, as yet, been solved elsewhere. I've posted about the problem in the User's sub-Forum. In the absence of a GUI, winetricks would require too steep a learning curve for my limited need of it.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Mar 2014, 22:06    Post subject: wine-portable-1.6.2-2, wine-portable-1.7.14-1  

UPDATE:
#20140315: fix again on vfat, winetrics, set PATH

wine-portable(p4) works on Puppy-431 and later:
wine-portable-1.6.2-2-p4.tar.gz (stable)
wine-portable-1.7.14-1-p4.tar.gz (develop)
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/

wine-portable(precise) works on Precise-Puppy and later:
wine-portable-1.6.2-2-precise.tar.gz (stable)
wine-portable-1.7.14-1-precise.tar.gz (develop)
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/pup5/precise/

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 20:37    Post subject: Why two version?  

Hi Shinobar,

I find Portable Wine very useful. Thanks again for its development.
Currently, I have the wine-portable-1.6.2.1-precise on /mnt/home. As all my frugal puppy installs are to the same partition, all recognize the same partition as /mnt/home. wine-portable is registered in upup raring and, as I've mentioned earlier on this thread, I've been able to both install XP applications and run portable xp applications, both types with with separate menu listings thanks again to your advice.
I opened to this thread intending to report my success in installing e-Sword, which (if I recall correctly) has recently been a problem under recent puppies and/or wine versions. I discuss the technique here, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=765355#765355, During that discussion I "plugged" your application, commenting on its advantage when running several puppies, but also cautioning that you've created two versions, one for precise and later, the other for earlier puppies. Calling up this thread, I discovered that you've published new versions.

So to get to the point: Why two versions? And particularly, will wine-portable-1.6..2-2-p4 function under precise and later pups? If so, what are the advantages of using wine-portable-1.6.2-2-precise in later pups?
The reason I ask isn't merely academic. On my /mnt/home partition I have frugal installs of precise, raring and slacko, but also Lupu, Saluki and Carolina. So it might be the best use of my time and my computer's hard-drive space if I were able to use and register wine-portable-1.6.2-2-p4 in all my Pups.

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 23:43    Post subject: Re: Why two version?  

mikeslr wrote:
Why two versions? And particularly, will wine-portable-1.6.2-2-p4 function under precise and later pups? If so, what are the advantages of using wine-portable-1.6.2-2-precise in later pups?

I am not sure Laughing

wine-portable(p4) is based on the wine compiled on Puppy-431 by version2013. wine-portable(p4) has not all the dependencies but some. Maybe no problem for many applications.

wine-portable(precise) has the wine compiled on Precise Puppy 571JP and has all the dependencies. I am not sure in what case the wine-portable(precise) is superior than the wine-portable(p4).

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Mar 2014, 13:53    Post subject: wine-portable-1.6.2-2-precise works on Earlier Pups, BUT  

Hi shinobar,

The only way to actually find out what works was to test.

Edit: Balance temporarily deleted: Being re-worked to provide a report of all my tests to date in a format easier to follow.

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 00:03    Post subject: wine-portable-1.7.15  

wine-portable(p4) works on Puppy-431 and later:
wine-portable-1.7.15-1-p4.tar.gz (2014-03-27)
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/

wine-portable(precise) works on Precise-Puppy and later:
wine-portable-1.7.15-1-precise.tar.gz (2014-03-27)
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/pup5/precise/

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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2014, 06:21    Post subject: wine-portable-1.7.18  

wine-portable(p4) works on Puppy-431 and later:
wine-portable-1.7.18-1-p4.tar.gz
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/

wine-portable(precise) works on Precise-Puppy and later:
wine-portable-1.7.18-1-precise.tar.gz
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/pup5/precise/

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun 2014, 03:32    Post subject:  

I may be stating the obvious for some people, but I'm just going to post this anyway, because I ran into this myself.

Winetricks will not work on portable Wine if it is installed on a non POSIX partition. So if the filesystem of your partition is vfat, it will not work.
This is because in the process of downloading and installing packages, winetricks will attempt to create folders called c:, and z: inside portable Wine.
Portable Wine is located outside of the Linux filesystem (because it's portable), and thus, inside the vfat filesystem, and the vfat filesystem does not allow, among other things, folder names with a colon.

It works fine on POSIX filesystems though.
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Aug 2014, 11:59    Post subject: Registering Wine-portable when lacking rox right-clicks
Subject description: Questions re Wine-tricks
 

Hi shinobar & All,

I discussed how to register wine-portable in Carolina here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=793047#793047. The same technique sill probably work on any Pup using the XFCE window manager and/or lacking rox-filer "right-clicks."

Hi solo, or anyone else,

How did you acquire/install wine-tricks? I'm interested in seeing if Dragon Naturally Speaking 10.5 --which runs under wine in Ubuntu Precise and its clones-- could work if installed to portable-wine invoked from a Precise or Raring Pup. But even under Ubuntu, some files have to be installed via wine-tricks.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Aug 2014, 14:45    Post subject: Re: Registering Wine-portable when lacking rox right-clicks
Subject description: Questions re Wine-tricks
 

mikeslr wrote:


Hi solo, or anyone else,

How did you acquire/install wine-tricks? I'm interested in seeing if Dragon Naturally Speaking 10.5 --which runs under wine in Ubuntu Precise and its clones-- could work if installed to portable-wine invoked from a Precise or Raring Pup. But even under Ubuntu, some files have to be installed via wine-tricks.

mikesLr


winetricks usage and download:
http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
http://winetricks.org/download/releases/
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Aug 2014, 16:57    Post subject: Invoking winetricks in wine-portable  

Hi All,

I'm out of practice thinking about Puppy and Linux. At my age, a couple of months being otherwise occupied can do that.
At least running the "p4" version of Portable Wine, even though there is no desktop file/menu listing, winetricks is already installed. It can be invoked via terminal using the code:
wine.sh winetricks

mikesLr

P.S. It helps if you don't hyphenate winetricks

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Aug 2014, 07:14    Post subject:  

I actually didn't realize I could run winetricks by using the -wine.sh winetricks- command.
What I did, and I suppose it amounts to the same thing, was to go to /mnt/home/wine-portable-1.7.18-1-precise and right click and choose -look inside-. Then, once inside, I would right-click the wine-1.7.18-prcise-xz.sfs and choose sfs-load, and pick the -no copy- option.
Once I have the sfs loaded, the wineserver is in place and I can use winetricks.

Kind of silly of me not thinking of using the wine.sh.
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Aug 2014, 21:51    Post subject: Another winetricks' problem  

Hi shinobar & all,

As I mentioned above, I have portable wine working on Carolina. The version I used there was wine-portable-1.6.2-2-p4. That version includes winetricks, albeit without the lovely GUI formerly available. If I recall correctly, that's a zenity/yad problem: no one has solved it or developed a workaround. But a couple of minutes reading regarding its command structure enables winetricks to do its job via a terminal.
Not so with wine-portable-1.6.2-1-precise. Adding the winetricks script to /usr/sbin --thanks solo-- making it executable, and starting it from the terminal generates an error message that winetricks.exe is not found in /drive_c/windows/system32. After which wine-portable shuts down.
A compiling issue?
Has anyone successfully invoked winetricks in wine-portable-1.6.2-2-precise? or any of the 1.7.1X wine-portables? Because of the time it takes to install all the programs I currently have in 6.2-1-precise, I'm reluctant start again from scratch.
By the way, how do you "UNREGISTER" a version of wire-portable? Is is sufficient merely to register a different version? That is, will registration of a different version "over-write" whatever was written by the registration of the previous version?
Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 06:14    Post subject: Wine_MyPortable_1.7.25_1  

Wine_MyPortable by Akkie2(Japanese forum member):
Wine_MyPortable_1.7.25_1.tar.gz (2014-08-29)
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B7b232kYrKQELTFDN2hXbjN0T2s&export=download
- Wine development release 1.7.25.
- Claunch, GPad and some applications pre-installed.
- Winetricks in the right click menu
- Compled on Puppy Precise 571.

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