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Slacko64 - 64 bit Puppy - 6 Feb 2014

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 10:48
by 01micko
Slacko64

Just to be clear..

You need a 64 bit processor!


-second alpha is released

for details see here

Have fun with that..

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 11:24
by mavrothal
Congratulations Mick!

Tried it on a Dell i7/4GB intel graphics laptop.
Everything (that I tested) worked OOB.
Pretty solid :D

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 14:29
by James C
As usual...... downloading. :)

Slacko64 - 64 bit Puppy - 15 Jan 2014

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 14:50
by Billtoo
I did a manual frugal install to my Acer Revo nettop.
The proprietary nvidia driver (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.38.run) compiled
and updated xorg.conf.
Now I have the correct screen resolution etc, and the mouse works but
the keyboard doesn't.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 15 Jan 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.8.7 Linux 3.12.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: ION/integrated/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 331.38

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Core 0: @1599 1: @1599 2: @1599 3: @1599 MHz

Connecting to any website in Firefox is very slow.
That's it so far.

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 15:15
by LateAdopter
Hello 01micko

Thanks for this, its working well on my PC. Athlon II X2 240 +RS880G

I run puppies from a FAT32 partition. Each time I run Slacko64 it leaves the partition in a state that win2k complains about. Win2k runs the disk check and finds no problem.

I installed your VLC 2.1.0 PET and then I installed alienBOB's VLC 2.1.2 TXZ over the top.

I now have VLC 2.1.2 working nicely.

The TXZ does not seem to install properly on its own. It gets stuck with BASH taking 100% of one core until I shut down.
I does copy the files to the right place, though.

TurionPowerControl + CPUID & MSR are working and I have turned the P-State voltages down to sensible values.

The idle cpu load is about 4% whereas fatdog is less than 1%. Nothing shows up in TOP, but something is using cpu cycles in the background.
It's not important for my desktop but may be significant on a laptop.

On the subject of download speeds to the UK...

I downloaded 5.8.6 from 01micko at about 30kB/s the other day

Today I downloaded 5.8.7 from smokey01 at 109kB/s

At the same time I downloaded the QT SFS from nluug at 352kB/s

That's about the limit for my ADSL.

Thanks again

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 15:35
by James C
Quick frugal install using the Universal Installer. Had to add nouveau.noaccel=1 due to freezing problems.Otherwise, all looking good so far.

# report-video
Report Video 1.3 - Wed 15 Jan 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.8.7 - Linux 3.12.7 x86_64

Chip description:
d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)


X Server: Xorg Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
1650 frames in 5.0 seconds = 329.885 FPS
1760 frames in 5.0 seconds = 351.916 FPS
1758 frames in 5.0 seconds = 351.450 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3796MB (287MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko64 Puppy - 5.8.7
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:50:03 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3796884       793784      3003100            0        79268
-/+ buffers:             714516      3082368
Swap:      8294396            0      8294396
# 

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 16:34
by Billtoo
I deleted my save file and started over.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 15 Jan 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.8.7 Linux 3.12.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVAC
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 MHz

Firefox is still very slow to connect to any website, links 2.8 connects
quickly.

EDIT:
PPM is broken, it worked in the pre-alpha but not this alpha.

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 17:50
by James C
Another quick run....live pfix=ram. Basics working on initial boot.

# report-video
Report Video 1.3 - Wed 15 Jan 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.8.7 - Linux 3.12.7 x86_64

Chip description:
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200 Series]


X Server: Xorg Driver used: radeon

X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
355 frames in 5.0 seconds = 70.974 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.021 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.042 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.029 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
Memory : 958MB (259MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko64 Puppy - 5.8.7
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 15 Jan 2014 01:16:39 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ATIIXP - ATI IXP

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        958768       761164       197604            0        78920
-/+ buffers:             682244       276524
Swap:            0            0            0
# 

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 17:57
by James C
Just installed Conky with PPM...... no problem.

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 18:44
by mavrothal
Billtoo wrote:Firefox is still very slow to connect to any website
For the record I tested briefly firefox on a 100MBits LAN and an i7 processor, inter graphics DELL laptop and was blazing.

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 19:09
by Billtoo
mavrothal wrote:
Billtoo wrote:Firefox is still very slow to connect to any website
For the record I tested briefly firefox on a 100MBits LAN and an i7 processor, inter graphics DELL laptop and was blazing.
PPM is working for james and firefox is blazing for you, I'm not
getting the same result as you on this nettop or my i7 desktop.
Should I report my results or just be quiet?

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 19:23
by mavrothal
Billtoo wrote: PPM is working for james and firefox is blazing for you, I'm not
getting the same result as you on this nettop or my i7 desktop.
Should I report my results or just be quiet?
Apologies if I offended you in anyway.
I just though that would be important for the developer to know the extend of the problem, ie if it is hardware/setup specific or something more general.
I hope you find this practice agreeable.

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 19:41
by James C
mavrothal wrote:
Billtoo wrote: PPM is working for james and firefox is blazing for you, I'm not
getting the same result as you on this nettop or my i7 desktop.
Should I report my results or just be quiet?
Apologies if I offended you in anyway.
I just though that would be important for the developer to know the extend of the problem, ie if it is hardware/setup specific or something more general.
I hope you find this practice agreeable.
Same here. I installed one package while running live....... different pupmode/ hardware/ devx installed or not/ etc could make a difference.All of the different variables is one reason why testing is important.

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 21:07
by 01micko
Billtoo, I gather the md5sum was ok. Strange that you have the same result on 2 machines. I don't know what else it could be other than an error copying the files to disk. To eliminate that possibility, or at least reduce it its chances of occurring, run "sync" after copying files.

For your convenience, here are the checksums of the original files (in case it is a copy error):

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934675aa99ba614a17fbc18fd4db0cf3  initrd.gz
0cc42069f87993144e5f3d8e626bbe95  puppy_slacko64_5.8.7.sfs
a82bb260d62d789ab06506e246b2a53d  vmlinuz
Also, you might try copying from commandline, sometimes filemanagers can change permissions.

Of course it could be none of the above and be a serious bug! That's why it's alpha, to get the crap out in the open.

HTH

USB installers will be broken. (syslinux issue)

Posted: Wed 15 Jan 2014, 23:40
by rwishlaw
Although it is under Issues on the Nabble Slacko64 page, I thought I would mention here that the BootFlash Install Puppy to USB does not work. It hangs when it is trying to copy the iso to the USB stick

Posted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 00:24
by Billtoo
The md5sums match on my nettop.
I burned the iso to a dvd and did a frugal install to my i7 desktop
with the universal installer.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 15 Jan 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.8.7 Linux 3.12.7 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVC8
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 4: @1600 5: @1600 6: @1600 7: @1600 MHz

PPM is working, I installed kdegames.
Firefox is still awful, takes a long time to connect to any website.

I just now updated the PPM and that broke it, must have done that
first thing on my nettop install.

I'm going to try installing the proprietary Nvidia driver now and see
how that goes.

EDIT:
I installed the proprietary driver and had it update xconf, did xwin and got back to the desktop at proper resolution and the driver had installed.
The mouse was working but the keyboard wasn't, exited to the prompt and tried xorgwizard, now nothing is working, can't get back to the desktop at all.

Posted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 01:51
by 01micko
Thanks Billtoo!

While I may not be much help with your nvidia troubles I can help with the petget issue.

It seems at the woof stage, because I was doing a cross build (host 32, target 64) that the 32 bit binaries got copied into /usr/local/petget. Consequently, when you try to update it silently crashes and actually trashes the database files. Attached are the offending files, the right ones which are 64 bit.They are debdb2pupdb (not really needed for us) and find_cat.

Copy them both into /usr/local/petget over writing the ones that are there.

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For nvidia, maybe try booting pfix=nox, then run

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rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Run xwin and see if you get a desktop.

Posted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 04:43
by Billtoo
@01micko
While in Quirky I mounted my Slack64 savefile and deleted
/etc/X11/xorg.conf, next time I booted Slacko64 it showed a couple of
errors that I didn't make note of but it went straight to the desktop
and it's using the nouveau driver again.
I used your petget_utils.tar.bz2 and the PPM is working again.

Back in business, thanks.

Posted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 16:59
by EdD
Does good, very fast, but doesn't display the optical drives, so it doesn't allow mounting the CD it booted up from. I did an install to a usb drive by mounting the iso files from the partition I used to download the iso.

machine specs are below in my sig line

Posted: Thu 16 Jan 2014, 20:14
by 01micko
EdD wrote:Does good, very fast, but doesn't display the optical drives, so it doesn't allow mounting the CD it booted up from. I did an install to a usb drive by mounting the iso files from the partition I used to download the iso.

machine specs are below in my sig line
Thanks!

I think I know the cause. I'm missing a little utility called cddetect_quick. I knew I had to build it but missed it. Will be fixed in the next and when I build it I'll post the pet.

EDIT: here it is (untetsted)