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Tor Browser Bundle 7.0.1
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stevielee

Joined: 25 Jul 2012
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 21:13    Post subject: Some praise....  

Once again, the SFS is working fine on Tahr 6.03 with the 5.0.1 update applied from the Tor site. You're awesome, OscarTalks...this is a fine service.

BTW, nice avatar and sig, Mike.
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stevielee

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2015, 21:36    Post subject: I hate to do this.....  

I am now running into problems getting Tor to start. I can't remember exactly how I got the sfs working before, but now I can't. I have tried several different ideas such as starting with new savefiles, installing the sfs and then rebooting before applying Tor updates, and so on.

What is happening is that with the 5.0 sfs, the sfs will load and Tor will run and ask to be updated. I download the updates, then close the browser. I then try to restart, and nothing happens. I try to start again, and the browser opens and applies the updates. Then I close the browser and try to restart. Nothing happens from then on. Any attempt to restart on the command line gives the message:
Code:
root# tor-browser
/root/my-applications/tor-browser/Browser/start-tor-browser: line 37: [: : integer expression expected
Unable parse command line: Unknown option --error



On the 5.1 sfs, no matter what, I get a window appearing stating that the browser closed unexpectedly...even when I run puppy in ram without a savefile and the tor has never been run before.

I don't know what changed in this situation to make this so difficult.
I am running TahrPup 6.02.

Thanks
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OscarTalks


Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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Location: London, England

PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:29    Post subject:  

Hello stevielee

Thanks for the report. I have updated the packages to version 5.0.2 which has now been released.

I have to modify the start-tor-browser script to get Tor Browser to run in Puppy and I think the automatic update process is now overwriting this script and so eliminating my modifications.

As an attemped solution I have renamed the script to start-tor-browser-puppy and the launcher (torbrowser or tor-browser) in /usr/bin now calls this renamed script. Hopefully then any downloaded start-tor-browser script is ignored and my modified script remains.

I normally load Tor Browser as .sfs and update that when new versions come out. I disable automatic updates as this downloads a large package (the new version) which occupies a lot of savefile space.

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stemsee

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015, 11:14    Post subject:  

For your info

Since tor 4.0.8 the tor bundle is self updating, there is no need to download anymore bundles. After starting tor browser you have to wait: first a notification will invite you to download the new bundle - ignore that and close it. Keep waiting, after 5 - 10 minutes tor will offer to update to the latest version which it will do successfully.

When I released tor 4.0.8.sfs bundle I did explain that it would be my last tor release as it became self-updating. I am runnig Dpup wheezy with self-updated tor 5.0.2, and it's great!
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015, 12:20    Post subject:  

Hello stemsee,

I think you are probably way ahead of me and you figured out a way to circumnavigate the problems of the start script on automatic update ages ago.

I do think it is nice though for anyone installing for the first time to have a recent version as a starting point. Also for folks like me running frugal installs and loading .sfs packages as I said I like to avoid having the large update packages occupying my savefile. I usually run Dpup Wheezy too by the way.

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stemsee

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2015, 12:35    Post subject:  

Yes, I totally agree, mainly for those who have their stable distro remaster with 4.0.8+ onboard.

Even for them/us getting yours is probably quicker.

All I did was change 0 to 1 where it checks for root and renamed to start-tor-browserp then made a link in the parent directory! That's it, after the upgrade it didn't change it.
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karunakaran

Joined: 04 Oct 2008
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Location: Tiruchirapalli, India

PostPosted: Sat 19 Sep 2015, 08:20    Post subject:  

Installed tor-browser-4.5.1-x86.sfs
During start up, updated with latest as requested.

After closing the session, while restarting again from the menu, torbrowser was not running.

Checked up with command line and the error message appeared as below:

#torbrowser
/root/my-applications/tor-browser/Browser/start-tor-browser: line 37: [: : integer expression expected
Unable parse command line: Unknown option --error
#

How to fix this error?
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Sun 20 Sep 2015, 08:48    Post subject:  

Hello karunakaran,

I would suggest unloading the version 4.5.1 .sfs
Then downloading the .sfs of Tor Browser 5.0.2 from:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Load that one instead.
It has a fix for the problem of overwriting of the start-tor-browser script file on automatic updates.

Those automatic updates are in fact installing pretty much the same large package again but in a way that occupies space in a save-file. If you are using .sfs it would be better not to allow these updates. Just keep updating the .sfs while ever they become available. If save-file space is not a concern to you then I suppose it is OK.

If you don't mind re-setting your Tor Browser (losing any preferences and add-ons etc) you can clean it all out and reclaim the space by doing:-

1) Unload the old .sfs
2) Delete /root/my-applications/tor-browser (directory and contents)
3) Load the new .sfs
4) Run your fresh Tor Browser

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karunakaran

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Sep 2015, 00:16    Post subject:  

Hello Oscar

Thanks a lot. Torbrowser WORKS now.

I just followed your 4 steps.
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stevielee

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Sep 2015, 21:29    Post subject: Thanks again...  

OscarTalks-

I did not have the chance to thank you for your response to my problem last time. I have been away but just now wanted to thank you for that as well as for the new update yesterday. I will likely stick with your advice to karunakuran to get the new sfs's as you roll them out. I might try stemsee's ideas...if I get the time.
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct 2015, 12:08    Post subject: Secure CHAT via TOR's beta  

Security in conversation via TOR a feature you need? Here it comes. Get it now.
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Jasper

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Oct 2015, 12:31    Post subject:  

Reserved - EDIT:

The link below may be more helpful than gcmartin's?

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-messenger-beta-chat-over-tor-easily
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Nov 2015, 09:10    Post subject:  

Took a quick look at Tor Messenger 0.1.0b3 running "portable" in /mnt/home with start-tor-messenger script modified to allow run-as-root and it does start and run.

I don't use Facebook or Twitter. Looked at the other protocols. Tried to log in with a Yahoo account but that didn't want to work. Tried a Google gmail account and that was rejected. Signing in to gmail via a browser I saw that the sign-in had been rejected by Google because it was considered a "less secure app". Google offered me a page with a setting (google account) which supposedly allows "less secure apps" to log in and I tried this but still could not log in with Tor Messenger.

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labbe5

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Nov 2015, 13:56    Post subject: Tor Messenger
Subject description: how to install on Linux
 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/how-to-use-tor-messenger-the-most-secure-chat-program-around/

Tor Messenger can be downloaded, but it's more for beta testing than for public use. In any case, Tor Messenger is aimed at users who don't want their location known, and want encryption.
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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Nov 2015, 20:54    Post subject: Re: Tor Messenger
Subject description: how to install on Linux
 

labbe5 wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/how-to-use-tor-messenger-the-most-secure-chat-program-around/

Tor Messenger can be downloaded, but it's more for beta testing than for public use. In any case, Tor Messenger is aimed at users who don't want their location known, and want encryption.


Tor messanger in some form relies on JS, thus deluting any security that the app has. at least you can disable JS in the tor browser.

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