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My report on Quirky 6.0
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Blackfish


Joined: 26 Feb 2014
Posts: 99
Location: Nakhon Pathom, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2014, 08:06    Post subject:  

Ah, now I see what went wrong. The file I downloaded is an .xz file. I need an .iso file. Where can I download that? I don't know how to open an .xz file.

I mean to say, all these other Puppy distros I have used were easy. Just download the .iso, burn it to CD, and boot-up.

This .xz thing does not boot. Or does it? What do I not know but need to know here?
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don570


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 14:43    Post subject:  

Blackfish wrote:
Ah, now I see what went wrong. The file I downloaded is an .xz file


There are two ways to install Quirky distro
therefore two scripts are available.

You should carefully read Barry's instructions

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/quirky-6.1/release-Quirky-6.1.htm

If you install the xz file then you should use precise 5.7.1.

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Blackfish


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2014, 22:55    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:


If you install the xz file then you should use precise 5.7.1.

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You mean to say I should have Precise Pup 5.7.1 installed on the hard drive in order to use this file?
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don570


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 13:26    Post subject:  

Method A: If you are going to install quirky using quirky-6.1.usfs.xz to a USB stick,
then you run install-quirky-to-drive.sh from Precise puppy 5.7.1.


The method D mentioned by Barry in his install notes is the easiest of all
and I don't think there is any restrictions in what version of linux
(or even Windows) that is used. It's fast and not as confusing as method A.


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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2014, 16:15    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0
Subject description: Quirky build system
 

I built another Quirky 6.0.6 with the Quirky build system which is
downloadable here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/project/
The build system that is, not the one that I made, it's not available
anywhere Smile
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3227U CPU @ 1.90GHz
Memory 3436MB (60MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Tahr
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Tue 10 Jun 2014 02:24:26 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.12.11 (i686)
Version #1 SMP Fri Mar 14 19:14:25 GMT-8 2014
C Library GNU C Library version 2.19 (stable)
Distribution Quirky Tahr
Display
Resolution 1366x768 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.15.1
OpenGL
Vendor Intel Open Source Technology Center
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3
Direct Rendering Yes

I needed to install xauth_1.0.7 from PPM before kdegames would install
in PPM,dbus-1.2.4.2permissive-q1.pet,dbus_DEV-1.2.4.2permissive-q1.pet,dbus-glib-0.82-q1.pet,and dbus-glib_DEV-0.82-q1.pet were needed to get kdegames working after installing it in PPM.
Another that needed extra dependencies installed was xbmc-12.3,
libx264-142_0.142.2389+git956c8d8-2 and libcaca0_0.99.beta18 which
were available in PPM.
I found the dbus pets here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-common/

I also needed to install mesa and all it's dependencies in PPM even
though some showed up as already installed, then did a reboot and
direct rendering was working, xbmc won't work if direct rendering isn't working.

The latest openssl was included in the build:
# openssl version -b
built on: Mon Jun 2 19:23:47 UTC 2014
#
Vlc is version 2.1.4

This is running from a 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive and I chose ext4 in the Quirky
installer.
I ran the Quirky installer from my Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 install.

Anyway, this is working well and I hope this info is helpful to anyone
that wants to give the Quirky build system a try, needs a high speed
internet connection and about 10gb free space for the build
directory, and several hours to complete.
It was fun but I'm not going to do it again anytime soon Smile
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Blackfish


Joined: 26 Feb 2014
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Location: Nakhon Pathom, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed 11 Jun 2014, 02:04    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:
Method A: If you are going to install quirky using quirky-6.1.usfs.xz to a USB stick,
then you run install-quirky-to-drive.sh from Precise puppy 5.7.1.


The method D mentioned by Barry in his install notes is the easiest of all
and I don't think there is any restrictions in what version of linux
(or even Windows) that is used. It's fast and not as confusing as method A.


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Ah! Got it! I didn't read carefully enough the first time around. My bad. Thanks for the help!
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2081
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Thu 12 Jun 2014, 13:00    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I built another Quirky 6.0.6, it's kind of addictive.
Using the Kernel Linux 3.9.11 (i686) pae kernel from precise 5.7.1

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 12 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.6 Linux 3.9.11 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1204x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 340.17

Processor 8x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Memory 16613MB (110MB used)

Thanks to BarryK for the Quirky build system.
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Blackfish


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Location: Nakhon Pathom, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu 12 Jun 2014, 22:01    Post subject:  

Blackfish wrote:
don570 wrote:
Method A: If you are going to install quirky using quirky-6.1.usfs.xz to a USB stick,
then you run install-quirky-to-drive.sh from Precise puppy 5.7.1.


The method D mentioned by Barry in his install notes is the easiest of all
and I don't think there is any restrictions in what version of linux
(or even Windows) that is used. It's fast and not as confusing as method A.


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Ah! Got it! I didn't read carefully enough the first time around. My bad. Thanks for the help!


When I said, "I got it!", I meant to say that I understood what needs to be done. It didn't mean I know how to do it -- which I don't.

I downloaded everything, all right. But when I tried a dozen or so times to run the script, I realize I am inept. I do not know how to run this script. Still trying.
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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Posts: 3259
Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Sat 14 Jun 2014, 13:12    Post subject:  

To Blackfish :

Tell us which of Barry's methods of installation you are using and what's the name of the linux distro that you are using.

We can help you on the forum if you supply the step by step procedure
you are using.

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Blackfish


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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jun 2014, 23:47    Post subject:  

don570 wrote:
To Blackfish :

Tell us which of Barry's methods of installation you are using and what's the name of the linux distro that you are using.

We can help you on the forum if you supply the step by step procedure
you are using.

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I've tried both installing to the hard drive and installing to the USB
stick in accordance with the directions laid down in the tutorial.

I don't understand how to run a script. I've never run one before. The only thing I have run are some simple commands. Do you simply copy and past it into a terminal window and press enter? I tried that and it didn't appear to do anything.

LxPup-Precise-Retro 14.02
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Billtoo


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Posts: 2081
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 15 Jun 2014, 01:02    Post subject:  

Blackfish wrote:


I've tried both installing to the hard drive and installing to the USB
stick in accordance with the directions laid down in the tutorial.

I don't understand how to run a script. I've never run one before. The only thing I have run are some simple commands. Do you simply copy and past it into a terminal window and press enter? I tried that and it didn't appear to do anything.

LxPup-Precise-Retro 14.02


Here's the method that I use to install Quirky Tahr to an usb flash
drive.
Plugin the flash drive but don't mount it.

Start up gparted: /menu/system/GParted partition manager

To prepare the flash drive in gparted:
Choose the flash drive.
Use the device menu to create a new partition table,(make sure you have
chosen the flash drive and not your hard drive!).
Create a fat32 partition, don't set the boot flag.
Exit gparted.

I create a hold directory in the root directory and copy the
tahr-6.0.5.usfs.xz and install-quirky-to-drive.sh files into the hold
directory.
In Rox-filer click on the hold directory, then right-click the mouse
and choose Window/terminal here.
In the terminal enter "sh install-quirky-to-drive.sh" no quotes.
The script will run and a series of prompts will come up to install
the tahr-6.0.5.usfs.xz file to the flash drive.

If you have the flash drive prepared and plugged in don't mount it.
If you don't plug the prepared flash drive until prompted in the
script don't mount it.

When the script has finished you can reboot and bring up the bios menu
(on some computers pressing the esc,F2,or some other key during bootup will bring up
the bios menu, I have to press F12 on my pc)
choose the flash drive as the boot device in the boot order menu of
the bios, then exit the bios menu with F10 and it will boot Quirky from the flash drive.

This should work from Precise puppy 5.7 or Slacko 5.7.
The faster the flash drive the better, a fast usb 3.0 flash drive
works well when plugged into a usb 2.0 port (as long as the usb 3.0 flash
drive is backward compatible with usb 2.0 and most are I think).

I hope this info helps you.
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don570


Joined: 10 Mar 2010
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Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Mon 16 Jun 2014, 11:55    Post subject:  

Quote:
Do you simply copy and past it into a terminal window and press enter? I tried that and it didn't appear to do anything.


The way I run a script is copy it to /root. Then launch my terminal
program and type

Code:
./Script_name


It may need to be set as executable. ( I'm not sure if that's necessary in
Puppy linux???) , but it's easily done by the rox filer program.
Just bring up the properties of file.
or run
Code:
chmod u+x Script_name


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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jun 2014, 14:39    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I built another Quirky Tahr using this kernel:
linux_kernel-3.12.11-nopae-builtin_aufs_f2fs_squashfs_zram-i486-tahr.pet

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 16 Jun 2014 on Quirky Tahr 7.2 Linux 3.12.11 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: modesetting
X.Org version: 1.15.1
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: @1596 MHz

PC is an emachines D620 laptop.
It's working well.
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 16:53    Post subject:  

Still running 6.0.5 here with zero problems.
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01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 7794
Location: qld

PostPosted: Thu 10 Jul 2014, 17:37    Post subject:  

Billtoo

There may be a couple of source files written in BaCon that I need in quirky-6x.

They are:

/usr/local/pup_event/pup_event_frontend_d.bac
/usr/local/pup_event/pup_event_ipc.bac

If you right click them in rox they should have a date stamp of March 2014 (or close to it).

If they are not there, or the date stamp is too old, then they may be in the quirky build system.

Can you post them here please?

TIA.

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