My report on Quirky 6.0

[BarryK]

How to install quirky 6.00 in my hard disk either full or frugal. I am already having several other puppies running in Hard Disk. How to install this quirky.img file in any other partition already available in the hard disk (ext4). Please give the some simple method to install in hard disk.

Read my blog, there is a script to install to a HD partition.
Also read my blog, frugal install is not supported.

[BarryK]

I have also tried to install quirky 6.00 by running write-quirky-to-partition.sh. However, it says Quirky image is not available. ( not able to detect Quirky6.00 image file) Even though it was in same folder where sh file is available. I have limited knowledge in linux and also not having any programming skill.

Are you doing this in a Linux partition? It must not be a ntfs or vfat (Windows/DOS) filesystem. Also must have over 8GB free.

I am working on another script, will try and put more automatic checking into it.

[BarryK]

Please be patient with an old grumpy Noob.

I am a frugal fanatic so no way I destroy the only ntfs
partition I have with all the other puppies and other
Linux frugal installs that is on that single partition. sda1 the sda2 is for
windows Vista on the Desktop. I need those for upgrading my smartphones
but I never use it other than for that purpose maybe once a year. .

So please make a version that one can manually install
as a standard frugal install that Puppy has worked for many years.

We need mirrors. Dowloads usally take a few minutes
but this one some33 minutes.

No, Quirky6 never will do a frugal install. it is not designed that way. it does not work with a layered filesystem, nor does it have a save-file, as in frugal. It is a full Linux installation. Needs an entire HD partition, or you can install to a pluggable external media.

[BarryK]

Hi Barry,

Still no joy with the amended script. I've tried both Puppy Precise 5.6 as well as Debian Wheezy. Both of these have Busybox installed. The target partition is ext4.

The error output is the same as before and the amended script issues no warnings while using Puppy as the install distro.

There is a warning when using Debian Wheezy as the install distro. Even although the image file and the install script exist in the same folder, the install script nevertheless can't see the image file.

The script does manage to copy over the boot folder containing the vimlinuz file - but nothing else. The rest of the files do not get copied. So, the script is failing just at that point. Can't see where the error is.

I used this write-quirky-to-partition.sh that I downloaded a few
minutes ago (dec 18th) from ibiblio.
I commented out this section of the script and the script ran without
error then:

#TESTDIR="`pwd`/write-quirky-to-partition"
# if [ ! -f "$TESTDIR" ];then
# echo
# echo "ERROR!"
# echo "You should have downloaded the Quirky6 compressed image, named
# something like 'quirky6*-img.xz' and it must be in the same folder
# as the script you are now executing. You must have opened a terminal
# in that folder and then executed this script.
# So, the current directory:"
# pwd
# echo "...is wrong. Aborting."
# exit
# fi

The screenshot shows the result, still getting the Seamonkey popup though until Barry's fix is applied.

Interesting that you had to comment-out that section!

Hopefully the new script I am working on will be better in other distros.

[BarryK]

Hi all,

I have Quirky installed on a 16 gb flash drive. The install script appears to have formatted the flash drive as f2fs, but it's showing up as two partitions: sdb1 (fat) and sdb2(f2fs). I am not sure if this is the intended outcome or not. Should I have re-formatted the flash drive as ext 2 or ext 3, and then installed Quirky?

I've only begun to look at Quirky, so have not done much testing yet. However, I do want to report that I managed to install Quirky on my Windows laptop. This was out of necessity, because it is my only computer that is capable of booting from a usb drive. Sadly, (perhaps) my linux distros currently run on much older systems. What I did is run debian squeeze in a virtual machine with VMware Player... It all went quite smoothly, except that I found that I had to add the file extension to the shell script when setting permission and then running it, but I guess that is standard in debian.

Cheers,
Monsie

Monsie,
Yes, two partitions is correct. There is no x86 boot manager that can boot to a f2fs partition, that is why the small vfat partition is required.

[BarryK]

regarding network connectivity, there is a bug in Quirky 6.0 that might cause setup to fail. My SNS works ok, as does the pupDial.

Run this:
# ./updatenetmoduleslist.sh

This creates /etc/networkmodules

This should have run at first startup, fixed at next release.
Lack of that file may cause some network setup scripts to malfunction.

[BarryK]

I found another bug, and the solution.

After running 'xorgwizard', I found that some xlib apps, for example 'ycalc', would not start. A missing font problem.

This file is missing: /etc/X11/xorg.conf0

xorgwizard needs it, otherwise it generates a partially broken /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

It is fixed for the upcoming Quirky 6.0.1.

Or get it now (you will need to un-gzip it -- just click on it after downloading):

[timothyli]

Quirky6 runs really really well on my 4GB USB stick with MBR partitions. Thanks Barry and CH Lee!

One small wish for Christmas.

With Precise 5.7.1, I am able to download/install Google Chrome .deb file directly from the Google site and run it. I don't seem to be able to do that with Quirky6. It complains about some lib files missing.

I do all my work in Google Drive and Google Chrome seems to work better than Seamonkey because of its offline capabilities and Chrome Apps.

I think Quirky6 is the best Puppy ever.

[broomdodger]

Has anyone tried to get Quarky6 to work on an XO?
Bill

[mavrothal]

Has anyone tried to get Quarky6 to work on an XO?
Bill

Not yet
When quirky 6.1 comes out with a less restrictive format I may give it a try though there is no f2fs patch for the 3.3 or 2.6 kernels that XOs are using.
The lack of a full udev with extras will also be a challenge for the power management and the keyboard/button extra functions.
Finally, I hope that all the xorg devel is there to compile the video drivers needed.
We'll see (though "wild" XOs are almost totally gone by now)...

[BarryK]

Quirky6 runs really really well on my 4GB USB stick with MBR partitions. Thanks Barry and CH Lee!

One small wish for Christmas.

With Precise 5.7.1, I am able to download/install Google Chrome .deb file directly from the Google site and run it. I don't seem to be able to do that with Quirky6. It complains about some lib files missing.

I do all my work in Google Drive and Google Chrome seems to work better than Seamonkey because of its offline capabilities and Chrome Apps.

I think Quirky6 is the best Puppy ever.

Quirky6 is not a general-purpose distro like Precise Puppy or Slacko Puppy. Quirky6 is very cut-down, and it is quite to be expected that a precompiled Chrome browser will have missing packages.

In most cases we will have to compile apps especially for Quirky, and some apps might not be compilable without addition of extra packages. See this forum thread, there have been many apps compiled, and I will soon enable Billtoo to upload them, when I get an ftp account sorted out.

[BarryK]

Quirky 6.0.1 is out:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00028

[Puppus Dogfellow]

Quirky 6.0.1 is out:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00028

download mirrored

linux_kernel-3.12.6-nopae-aufs-squashfsbuiltin-i486-quirky6.pet
quirky-6.0.1.usfs.xz 103.9M
devx_quirky_6.0.1.sfs 134.6M
syslinux-4.05-x86.pet 268.7K
install-quirky-to-partition.sh 10.3K
install-quirky-to-drive.sh 14.5K
woof-installed-packages 116.7K
sha1sums.txt

3b19cb7cc0566d7fc8d8eccda7c8bed672d655fb devx_quirky_6.0.1.sfs
4d1420389dec9deb405843045396928b81b8ce47 install-quirky-to-drive.sh
b9fba227a8654c71bc06e1e47af818bd9de003c5 quirky-6.0.1.usfs.xz
c69db4be77a907df9301377d50aa6bafb4c705a0 syslinux-4.05-x86.pet
5b7fe4b17767cc426888d8861d5cad19fc020bd1 woof-installed-packages
798a267a0ca4cd93a0e7c65e2bb35050d1eec654 install-quirky-to-partition.sh

[Billtoo]

I used the new install to drive script and installed to a 16gb SDHC card.

Summary
Computer
Processor 8x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Memory 3604MB (72MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky - 6.0.1
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 19 Dec 2013 09:08:30 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI

I chose ext 4 instead of f2fs and it's working okay.
Still getting the Seamonkey popup until the fix is applied.
Working good so far.

EDIT:
I did another install to a 1TB external usb 3.0 hard drive.

[starhawk]

@BarryK -- I have neither 4gb+ SD card nor funds to get one.

Is it possible to make a Quirky Puppy that fits on a 2gb card? I have one of those, if I can find it...

[Volhout]

486 is the mimimum, there are a couple of non-FPU boards we don't support (vortex86SX ... any 486SX processors for that matter)
586 is not a significant jump as far as instructions only cmpxchg (it was mostly architectural improvement)
586mmx _is_ a significant jump and is almost required to get decent video playback
686 adds cmov which is 1)technically wrong 2)not widely supported 3)not very useful. See Linus's comments on the subject

Current CPUs should work with 586mmx (including the vortex86MX in Barry's gecko) all the way back to 2nd gen pentiums and amd k6 circa 1997 ... so if we want to support 20+ yr old computers and the vortex86DX, then we would need to do 486 for a few more years otherwise I am all for 586mmx

This quote is from TechnoSaurus in the pupngo thread. May be a good idea if you plan to have minimal video drivers (vest only)

[mavrothal]

In most cases we will have to compile apps especially for Quirky, and some apps might not be compilable without addition of extra packages.

Indeed video drivers fail to compile because some xorg devel files appear to be missing (xvmc in one case and xaa.h in another).

Is full xorg support in future plans by anyone?

[Sage]

Got her phone/email, Billtoo?

As one of the great unwashed who isn't capable of filling in blanks in CLI instructions, here is a list of mistakes I made:
I decompressed the .xz file - don't do this.
I didn't cd, change directory, to location of files
I had no idea what 'number" was required in the first question - it is the list number in the list of files - should be obvious, but it isn't unless you know the qualification that should accompany the question. Bad English grammar/parsing for outsiders.
The same grammatical shortcoming when selecting a partition except they now have their numbers shown alongside.
shalsum or sha1sum? - depends on your font selection.

After days of fruitless grappling with Q6, it seems I have a working partition accompanying a FULL Slacko5.6.5. Amazing! Just need micko to fix FULL shutdown/poweroff (for his masterpiece - Q6 does shutdown OK).

As BK says, he is retired and doesn't wish to take supplementaries from us plebs. So, if one of the kind gurus could occasionally grasp his pearls and expand them into stepwise textual instructions that would make a lot more folks happy, esp. as Q6 has been announced as a public offering. Well, that's enough grief for one day, back to educating the masses about the iniquities of methyl(chloro)isothiazolinone. No, don't ask - I'm also retired...

[Keef]

Painless install to an ext3 partition - HP Compaq nc6120

ipw2200 wifi working fine with SNS, but have switched to ethernet now.
Only problem noted so far is that it will not reboot. Hangs when it gets to saying it is restarting. Have to resort to the power button.
Shutdown does work correctly though.

VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.0.1

Chip description:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1400x1050
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow synaptics

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1400x1050 pixels (370x277 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

============== KERNEL Options ==============

video=640x480 root=/dev/sda7 rw

============== System Info =============

VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.0.1
Current time: Thu 19 Dec 17:48:10 GMT 2013
Language: en_GB.UTF-8
Operating system: GNU/Linux 3.12.2
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz
Frequency(MHz): 2000
Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M_2 Gigabit Ethernet
Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse: Optical Wheel Mouse

[timothyli]

@BarryK -- I have neither 4gb+ SD card nor funds to get one.

Is it possible to make a Quirky Puppy that fits on a 2gb card? I have one of those, if I can find it...

I tried installing Q6.01 on a 2GB USB stick. It works fine. I have about 1GB free space left on the stick after installation.