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My report on Quirky 6.0
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:44    Post subject: Re: momanager
Subject description: quirky or puppy
 

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:
Yes, I will put your latest momanager pet into quirky 6.1.1.

Glad to read that.
Thus the momanger will no more be a forked one.

Let me change the title and some other minor things before you put it into quirky.

Quirky is not Puppy (welcome1stboot, .....). I could also change momanager to create langpackQuirky_ as addition to puppy langpack (same already done for Fatdog).

Another issue: translators do not like to load devx.
Just gettext package is enough. I could change these texts too.

EDIT
...done


I have already finalized Q6.1.1

Note, I did change your pinstall.sh, put this around the code:

Code:
if [ "`pwd`" = "/" ];then
...
fi


That's because when building in woof, don't want that code to run.

Note also, I haven't modified woof, just added your pet to the package-list, so it overrides the momanager that is in woof.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 22:11    Post subject: Thanx Puppy Master 4 Y'r Attn
Subject description: Yes I Did Try Simple Network SetUp
 

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timothyli

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 22:14    Post subject:  

I just bought a USB 3.0 32GB Lexar Jumpdrive Model S33 from Bestbuy for $14.99. It is rated at 100 MB/s read and 55 MB/s write. The first thing I did was to put Quirky 6.1 on it and It ran buttery smooth. Sweet Smile.

With the newer USB drives coming down in price and getting faster, I think Quirky 6 is the right direction to go for Puppy.

Thanks Barry for giving us Quirky 6. It is also my main OS now, although I still miss Google Chrome.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 22:52    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0
Subject description: service pack
 

I opened the ppm and a there was a popup that appeared saying a
service pack to go from 6.1 to 6.1.1 was available so I installed that.
Is that all that's needed or do I need to download a new devx pet too?
I'm downloading the devx from ibiblio and will look at the checksum
of it and the one that I have.
Right clicking to open a terminal in a folder still isn't working
after installing the service pack, it's not a big deal though.

Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky - 6.1.1
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 04 Jan 2014 09:48:51 PM EST

EDIT: the checksum of the devx that I had and the one I just downloaded are the same, date is different but it's different on all the other files too so I guess that's all that has changed.
I tried uninstalling the devx and rebooting, then re-installing but the right click problem is still there.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 04:19    Post subject:  

timothyli wrote:
I just bought a USB 3.0 32GB Lexar Jumpdrive Model S33 from Bestbuy for $14.99. It is rated at 100 MB/s read and 55 MB/s write. The first thing I did was to put Quirky 6.1 on it and It ran buttery smooth. Sweet Smile.

With the newer USB drives coming down in price and getting faster, I think Quirky 6 is the right direction to go for Puppy.

Thanks Barry for giving us Quirky 6. It is also my main OS now, although I still miss Google Chrome.


Someone sent me an email about buying USB Flash drives from China and offering Quirky pre-installed. Ha ha, I don't want to get into that!

Anyway, the person quoted a price for an 8GB USB2 drive, but I can buy them cheaper from my local Officeworks:
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Data-Storage/USB-Flash-Drives/8GB-USB/SDCZ528GB

5 bucks, that translates to about US$4.50.

I still haven't seen a USB3 drive locally as cheap as you have got it. But, they are coming.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 04:23    Post subject:  

Quirky 6.1.1 has arrived!

See announcement and download link here:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00038

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 04:41    Post subject: Re: My report on Quirky 6.0
Subject description: service pack
 

Billtoo wrote:
I opened the ppm and a there was a popup that appeared saying a
service pack to go from 6.1 to 6.1.1 was available so I installed that.
Is that all that's needed or do I need to download a new devx pet too?
I'm downloading the devx from ibiblio and will look at the checksum
of it and the one that I have.
Right clicking to open a terminal in a folder still isn't working
after installing the service pack, it's not a big deal though.

Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky - 6.1.1
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 04 Jan 2014 09:48:51 PM EST

EDIT: the checksum of the devx that I had and the one I just downloaded are the same, date is different but it's different on all the other files too so I guess that's all that has changed.
I tried uninstalling the devx and rebooting, then re-installing but the right click problem is still there.


Yeah, the Service Pack won't fix that missing 'misc' folder, what has been fixed is what caused it to happen in the first place.

So, you will have to fix it manually. Look in any other Puppy, /usr/lib/X11/X11, and you should see a 'fonts' dir, in fact a whole lot of stuff.
Copy the 'fonts' dir to Quirky, in /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/, getting rid of a symlink if it is still there.

I haven't uploaded a 'devx' pet for 6.1.1. I plan to create a Service Pack for that too, will do that soon. There's not much difference though, you can continue to use the 6.1 devx -- older poppler lib though in 6.1.1.

Ah good, you have tested the automatic popup when the Package Manager is started -- I hadn't got around to trying that, good to know it works.

Note that system snapshots prior to 6.1.1 may be suspect. I encountered an anomaly that I think was caused by mksquashfs. Now using the latest squashfs-tools out of git.
To play safe, you might want to delete all the old snapshots.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 04:52    Post subject:  

I probably need to explain something. I have announced that Quirky is a "full installation" and does not use SFS files.

Yet, here I am writing all about using SFS files!

They are no longer being used by end-users. With Puppy, you can download lots of different SFS files, 'devx', kernel-source, officeworks, etc., and they can be selected by the Boot Manager.
At next bootup, they get loaded as layers, one on top of the other, with the Aufs layered filesystem. This is convenient, as "uninstallation" is done just be deselecting an SFS in Boot Manager.

Quirky 6.x does not have a layered filesystem, so no end-user SFSs. Instead, it is all PETs.

I am however, using SFS files internally, as a convenient archive system. For example, when a snapshot is taken of the entire system using the Quirky Snapshot Manager, it is saved as an SFS file in /audit/snapshots.
I could have used some other method, such as tarball or cpio, but SFS has three nice features:

1. It packs small files very efficiently into the archive
2. it is compressed
3. It can be mounted, for easy viewing, and extraction, without expanding.

Yes, there is 'avfs' which can mount a compressed tarball, but I found that less convenient.

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 04:57    Post subject:  

Charlie6,
Ha ha, well of course you can report on any apps that don't work. I just got confused initially when you reported that Pmount didn't work.
Then I saw the photo and realised.

Perhaps they should have named it something else, as it is not the official Pmount -- or, maybe it is the official Pmount in some other puppy -- such as Slacko.

Pmount is actually builtin to Woof, the original one that is.

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Bert


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 08:51    Post subject:  

6.1.1 already available at nluug:

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/quirky/quirky6/x86/

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Ted Dog


Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 4013
Location: Heart of Texas

PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 09:40    Post subject:  

So we got sfs files as a system snapshot and more temp files moving to RAM... Shocked Those of us RUN totally in RAM puppylinux since 2005 are slowly chipping away from the slow as molasses flashdrive only Quirky6s Laughing

You know if you wrap up the sfs filesystem within initrd and place the kernel external to filesystem people could just download those to boot from. That would place the correct tools and scripts In a known environment. Heck I bet you could even let people try the software out without forcing them to buy new hardware...

I know that sounds crazy not having people spend 15-25mins setting up a files system using scripts within other versions of linux Razz just to play..
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mareg

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 10:24    Post subject: Quirky 6.1.1  

Installed Q 6.1
MPlayer does not work. It opens but when trying view a film dissappears.
Abiword, calc and draw do not work from desktop, work from menu.
After installing Service Pack 6.1 to 6.1.1 no changes with it.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 11:39    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I installed XBMC 12.3 for windows, runs well under wine 1.7.9 on this
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Keef


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Location: Staffordshire

PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 11:40    Post subject:  

Upgraded to 6.1.1.
As reported earlier, restart is still not working - just hangs and needs the power button to shutdown.

Able to shutdown from desktop cleanly though.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1.1

Chip description:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1400x1050
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow synaptics

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1400x1050 pixels (370x277 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

============== KERNEL Options ==============

video=640x480 root=/dev/sda7 rw raid=noautodetect

============== System Info =============

VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1.1
Current time: Sun 5 Jan 14:37:19 GMT 2014
Language: en_GB.UTF-8
Operating system: GNU/Linux 3.12.6
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz
Frequency(MHz): 2000
Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M_2 Gigabit Ethernet
Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse: Optical Wheel Mouse
============== Report memory =============

RAM Total 1285332k 78704k 6% in use
Swap Total 1534972k 0k 0% in use

=========== SFS files loaded ============

No SFS packages loaded

=========== Packages installed ============

devx_quirky_6.0.1
mypaint-1.1.0_sfs4
Right-click-6.7.5
service_pack-6.1_TO_6.1.1-quirky6
src2pkg-helpers-1.6-i486-1
UExtract-2.4

============ Driver blacklist ============

arcfb cirrusfb cyber2000fb cyblafb hgafb neofb pm2fb s1d13xxxfb
sstfb tdfxfb tridentfb vga16fb aty128fb atyfb radeonfb
i810fb intelfb kyrofb nvidiafb rivafb savagefb sisfb
btaudio es1371 i810_audio kahlua trident ub usbkbd
usbmouse via82cxxx_audio
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charlie6


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 12:51    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,
BarryK wrote:
Charlie6,
Ha ha, well of course you can report on any apps that don't work. I just got confused initially when you reported that Pmount didn't work


i apologize having been unclear about that Zigbert's Pmount version i like that i could not resist to install... Embarassed
I have also installed the latest french langpack from ibiblio repo noarch or common + FF26 + libdbus and libdbus-glib. Could they cause Pmounts misworking ??

Meanwhile, i have now uninstalled it and replace it with the pmount coming from the uncompressed quirky6.0.usfs.xs archive. I again get report of 0 GB sized partitions ...????

So i'm a bit puzzled ... perharps i had better to download and reinstall the complete latest Q6.1.1 archive... : ?

Best regards, Charlie

edited:
@Barry,
all OK after reinstalled the original Q6.0.1 + the latest service_pack.pets. Digging a bit deeper, the pets i had installed had several scripts that replaced the originals with subsequent misworking. Again my apologizes Embarassed .

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