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My report on Quirky 6.0
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L18L

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 05:49    Post subject: Re: momanager
Subject description: quirky or puppy
 

BarryK wrote:
Yes, I will put your latest momanager pet into quirky 6.1.1.

Glad to read that.
Thus the momanger will no more be a forked one.

Let me change the title and some other minor things before you put it into quirky.

Quirky is not Puppy (welcome1stboot, .....). I could also change momanager to create langpackQuirky_ as addition to puppy langpack (same already done for Fatdog).

Another issue: translators do not like to load devx.
Just gettext package is enough. I could change these texts too.

EDIT
...done
momanager.gz
Description  download to /usr/sbin and
gunzip momanager.gz
gz

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 05:56    Post subject: Ps Message from /var/log
Subject description: Hope this Helps, Thanx
 

Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.810945] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.845496] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, in-tree:s
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.845500] iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2011 Intel Corporation
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.warn kernel: [ 14.845553] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.846780] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.867843] tg3.c:v3.133 (Jul 29, 2013)
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.878240] sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.878243] sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.914399] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 4 802.11a channels
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.info kernel: [ 14.914405] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.debug kernel: [ 14.914907] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X
Jan 4 09:49:13 puppypc19635 kern.debug kernel: [ 14.926956] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-3945-rs'
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 06:25    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I compiled openbox 3.5.0 and lxpanel 0.6.1 + all the dependencies that
go with them.
I did it in Quirky 6.0.1 and it works in Quirky 6.1 as well.

Operating System Quirky - 6.1
Desktop Environment Unknown (Window Manager: Openbox)

It's working okay so far.
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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 09:16    Post subject: Re: My report on Quirky 6.0  

Quoting myself

bark_bark_bark wrote:
I installed to ext2 partition on netbook SSD from USB drive with additional packages (on the usb drive) to set up GRUB.

After install I added GRUB bootloader to Win7's BOOTMGR. After boot I installed Accelerated video drivers for Intel.

Tested and works:
-Xorgwizard
-Quirky Package Manager
-Seamonkey (copied profile from Windoze)
-Network Wizard (Wireless was tested only)
-Pup Advert Blocker

Tested but does not work:
-GetFlash (can not connect to server)

Suggestons:
-Ability to easily update package list (puppy was able to, but not quirky)
-SFS installer
-GRUB Legacy and GRUB4DOS installers

Otherwise, this was a 4/5 star experience.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 14:00    Post subject:  

I have, what for me, are tidings of great joy; which may perhaps be of wider interest.

Having spent many hours installing pets and tweaking v 6.1 f2fs on an 8gb flash stick, I wanted an exact replica on a free 16gb stick mainly so that I could format the remaining space as a primary ext4 partition to use with Precise 5.6, but also as an extra fail-safe backup.

So I first copied and pasted the /audit folder (which held and still holds my most recent single backup) to my hard drive which transpired to be a very quick process.

Then I followed the advice from don570 re a plop adaptation of BarryK's method http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90683 to make a pristine v 6.0 having inserted my 16gb flash stick when instructed by the code. That took some 15 minutes in total.

Then I unplugged the unmounted 16gb stick and rebooted my still running 8gb stick and then unplugged that after a few seconds when its drive light went off.

Then I reinserted the 16gb drive and rebooted via plop (plop is irrelevant, except where an ancient computer cannot boot directly to a flash stick). Then, after a successful boot. I did not bother to make any settings (not even changing the screen resolution) I just used Barry’s Method C by clicking on the 23/24mb pet ... (already downloaded to my hard drive and previously used when I had upgraded my 8gb stick from 6.0 to 6.1(and whereas the pet name suggests it can only upgrade from v 6.01 to 6.1 - Barry had already explained it would also upgrade from 6.0)).

Then I left clicked on the file icon at the top left corner of my desktop and then clicked the green-up-arrow at the top left of the new window and then copied and carefully pasted the ‘audit’ folder into a blank area of the window (so that is was not placed inside any other folder). There two points of possible note: (1) as there had been no backup to this drive there was no subsisting ‘audit’ folder to overwrite or replace and (2) if, not having adjusted the screen resolution. the top left corner of the desktop had been hidden. then right-clicking on any blank area of the desktop and using Filesystem then ROX... from the Menu would show the green-up arrow.
**********************************************
The final step (except. in my particular case, for making a third ext4 partition) was to click the RESTORE button in‘Snapshot Manager save/restore partition’ found in the Main Menu under Filesystems'(or Multimedia) and then reboot following the clear and simple on-screen instructions.
**********************************************
Then, hey presto, magically Bob became my uncle and Fanny became my aunt.

My regards

Barry has designed Quirky to come in different sizes, with alternative extensions and ways to originate and/or upgrade - yet it seems to me copying the ‘audit’ folder (after a/any backup) to another drive adds braces to Barry’s strong belt (which even caters for power cuts) and if an appropriate spare drive or partition is available (even to a different computer using the new 6.1.1),

The above ‘cloning’ took a total of some 30 minutes - the trial idea was -simple and so was its execution - only fullish detail may make it seem complex.
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PS More good news - my v 6.1 has now been upgraded to 6.1.1

NB the paragraph between the asterisks has been rewritten to rectify a major omussion.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:25    Post subject:  

charlie6 wrote:
Hi,
using the new latest install-scripts: here got a successfull install on a USB flash key + successfull boot on my daughter's Acer Aspire V3-771G (after having set its bios to "legacy").

Noticed:
- flsynclient is not present (whereas flsynclient.desktop is well present); so further touchpads settings can't be done;
- the Pmount window reports 0.0G size for some (un)mounted partitions/usb flash keys;
- i miss .... the siliconmotion.ko video driver Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes as i'd like to get a try on an "old" Medion PIII 600MHz ...

Regards, Charlie


Flsynclient fixed for 6.1.1.

Pmount!!!? That photo is not the Pmount that comes with Quirky. Please report bugs with Quirky, not with some PET you got from somewhere.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:31    Post subject:  

timothyli wrote:
timothyli wrote:
Quirky 6.1 runs great on my Sony 16GB USB 3.0 Micro Vault stick on a Lenovo X201 i5 with 4GB of RAM Smile However, if I use a cheap no name USB stick, it is a bit laggy, which is expected.


I've been playing around with Quirky 6.1 a lot these days, experimenting with different size USB sticks/SD cards lying around in the house. I found that Quirky6 is usable only with a speedy USB stick or HD. With slow USB sticks, the best overall user experience is running Precise 5.7.1 loaded entirely into RAM (pfix=ram). I remastered a puppy_precise_5.7.1.sfs to include the apps I often use (like Chrome browser, freeoffice) along with all the settings, fonts etc., modify the /usr/sbin/delayedrun script to suppress the first-time popup, write my zoneinfo (America/Toronto) into the /etc/localtime, so that I can boot to a speedy, fully functional, ready-to-use desktop without interruption. Yes, the boot up time is longer than Quirky6's, but once it's up, it remains speedy throughout because everything is in RAM. The speed of the USB stick becomes irrelevant. I can even unplug the USB stick. I work off the cloud (Google Drive) so I rarely need to save stuff back to my local drive. This seems to be the best setup for my use case.

I love the idea of Quirky6 but I wonder what else can be done to improve the performance on slow USB sticks. I tried moving /root/.cache to /tmp but it just helped a little.


Yes, that is the price to pay, running a "full installation" off a USB stick. A bit slow. I am going to continue to tweak it, try and get more things to happen in ram, minimise writes to Flash.

I am running off a USB2 Flash stick right now, it is OK. Not as snappy sometimes, compared with a pup that has loaded everything into RAM.

I haven't tried USB3 or SD-card yet, keen to compare them.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:34    Post subject:  

jrb wrote:
Has anyone else reported epdfview not printing? Abiword, Seamonkey, geany all print well. Epdfview shows the print dialog box and the proper printer but the print job just disappears. It doesn't show up in the Cups Job list. Confused

Other than that working well so far. Thanks BK


For Q 6.1.1, I have rolled epdfview and poppler back to those from Wary. Haven't tried printing yet.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:37    Post subject: Re: Quirky 6.1 and Issue with Q-Wallpaper
Subject description: Quirky 6.1 and Issue with Q-Wallpaper
 

slavvo67 wrote:
I installed the Q-Wallpaper in UPUP Precise 3.8.2 (one of my fav Puppies) without any installation problem. However, upon using it appears the program is looking for wallpapers in usr/share/backgrounds/125, while UPUP Precise has the backgrounds in usr/share/backgrounds. I just dragged them into the 125 directory instead of programming it out but just a heads up that it's an issue.


Perhaps you have not followed the instructions given on my blog:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00037

Quoting:
Quote:
It does mean though, that the other apps Pwallpaper and Nathan's Wallpaper Setter won't work.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:40    Post subject: Re: Wireless Not working on HP Compaq NC6400 Laptop
Subject description: Works w/ Slacko, PupLite 5 & Windows etc
 

Max Headroom wrote:
Booting from USB Flash Dr ( installed using Method D img after attempting in vain Method A ) as it's Loading the the Blue Wireless LED is On 'til Loading Ke*nel Modules Appear then the Wireless LED goes Off

I've Tried Manually Loading iwl3945 & the Windows NDISwRapper ( This is an intel ( R ) Pro / Wireless 3945ABG Chip ), But No go

The Puppy Network Wizard Windows says Error!

Failed to raise interface wlan0
Failed Command was: ifconfig wlan0 up
Error Returned was:
ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: UnkNown Error 132

Then When I Shutdown or Restart Quirky the Blue Wireless LED comes back on !?!

Of Course I've Already Searched the Forum for the answer, But Surprisingly I think I'm Unique 2 this Bug!

Otherwise the Speed is impressive

Thanx Barry K

SmileK


Did you try with SNS (Simple Network Setup) applicatio?

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 20:44    Post subject: Re: momanager
Subject description: quirky or puppy
 

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:
Yes, I will put your latest momanager pet into quirky 6.1.1.

Glad to read that.
Thus the momanger will no more be a forked one.

Let me change the title and some other minor things before you put it into quirky.

Quirky is not Puppy (welcome1stboot, .....). I could also change momanager to create langpackQuirky_ as addition to puppy langpack (same already done for Fatdog).

Another issue: translators do not like to load devx.
Just gettext package is enough. I could change these texts too.

EDIT
...done


I have already finalized Q6.1.1

Note, I did change your pinstall.sh, put this around the code:

Code:
if [ "`pwd`" = "/" ];then
...
fi


That's because when building in woof, don't want that code to run.

Note also, I haven't modified woof, just added your pet to the package-list, so it overrides the momanager that is in woof.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 22:11    Post subject: Thanx Puppy Master 4 Y'r Attn
Subject description: Yes I Did Try Simple Network SetUp
 

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 22:14    Post subject:  

I just bought a USB 3.0 32GB Lexar Jumpdrive Model S33 from Bestbuy for $14.99. It is rated at 100 MB/s read and 55 MB/s write. The first thing I did was to put Quirky 6.1 on it and It ran buttery smooth. Sweet Smile.

With the newer USB drives coming down in price and getting faster, I think Quirky 6 is the right direction to go for Puppy.

Thanks Barry for giving us Quirky 6. It is also my main OS now, although I still miss Google Chrome.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 22:52    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0
Subject description: service pack
 

I opened the ppm and a there was a popup that appeared saying a
service pack to go from 6.1 to 6.1.1 was available so I installed that.
Is that all that's needed or do I need to download a new devx pet too?
I'm downloading the devx from ibiblio and will look at the checksum
of it and the one that I have.
Right clicking to open a terminal in a folder still isn't working
after installing the service pack, it's not a big deal though.

Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky - 6.1.1
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 04 Jan 2014 09:48:51 PM EST

EDIT: the checksum of the devx that I had and the one I just downloaded are the same, date is different but it's different on all the other files too so I guess that's all that has changed.
I tried uninstalling the devx and rebooting, then re-installing but the right click problem is still there.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 04:19    Post subject:  

timothyli wrote:
I just bought a USB 3.0 32GB Lexar Jumpdrive Model S33 from Bestbuy for $14.99. It is rated at 100 MB/s read and 55 MB/s write. The first thing I did was to put Quirky 6.1 on it and It ran buttery smooth. Sweet Smile.

With the newer USB drives coming down in price and getting faster, I think Quirky 6 is the right direction to go for Puppy.

Thanks Barry for giving us Quirky 6. It is also my main OS now, although I still miss Google Chrome.


Someone sent me an email about buying USB Flash drives from China and offering Quirky pre-installed. Ha ha, I don't want to get into that!

Anyway, the person quoted a price for an 8GB USB2 drive, but I can buy them cheaper from my local Officeworks:
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Data-Storage/USB-Flash-Drives/8GB-USB/SDCZ528GB

5 bucks, that translates to about US$4.50.

I still haven't seen a USB3 drive locally as cheap as you have got it. But, they are coming.

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