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anikin

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 09:00    Post_subject:  

Strange, but the terminal doesn't seem to follow its action - no output at all. I recall there was some insignificant message earlier in the terminal, when tmpfs wasn't set the way it is now.
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saintless


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 09:00    Post_subject:  

Hi, Anikin.
The problem is indeed missing files from Puppy. Here is working sfs:
http://smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/Temp-stuff/peasyglue.sfs

Toni
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saintless


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 09:09    Post_subject:  

anikin wrote:
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Small change in RemasterCow needed because of puppy initrd boot
Toni,
I must have missed a discussion, what is puppy-initrd-boot, what does it do and why it's needed?

It is something I experiment with. It is not needed actually. Just adapting some existing scripts for it as optional boot. It will be available as separate kernel+initrd.gz module for download. Not included in the iso.
In general all new separate kernel-modules for puppy like from slacko 6 and kernels from Stemsee will be able to boot debiandog giving closer puppy structure while using the same 01-filesystem.squashfs.
For the moment we have working save file and save folder with boot choice which one to use and proper auto-created links /live/image and /live/cow needed for RemasterDog and RemasterCow to work proper with puppy initrd file.
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anikin

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 10:36    Post_subject:  

Works like a charm.
I see, it needs a bit more deps, libs and symlinks and a proper structure.
Toni, did you get the stuff from a Puppy or Debian? I want to have it in my SID as well.
rcrsn51,
I will post a feature request in peasyglue thread.

Many thanks to both of you, guys.
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fredx181

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 10:46    Post_subject:  

Hi Toni,
Fred wrote:
New portable DebianDog Installer:

Fixed now and links are back on previous page.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=787249#787249

Flashplayerchoice is working fine, tested all options, Thanks Toni!

Quote:
Small change in RemasterCow needed because of puppy initrd boot.

Ok!

Here's new debdog-full-install for DebianDog itself (attached).

I didn't like that unsquashfs uses so much RAM (more than 500Mb on my laptop).
So instead 01-filesystem.squashfs is mounted and copied from there to the selected drive (shows Xdialog progress).

Fred
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saintless


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 10:51    Post_subject:  

Hi, Anikin.
Files inside sfs are taken from puppy. Do not use this sfs. I just made quick test what is missing.
Here is deb package:
http://smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/peasyglue_1.7_i386.deb
After installing run:
Code:
apt-get -f install

It will download the missing dependencies keeping them debian official.
I don't know if it works in SID but I guess it will.

Toni
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 10:54    Post_subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Fred wrote:
New portable DebianDog Installer:

Fixed now and links are back on previous page.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=787249#787249

Thanks, Fred. I will test later and upload the files on the site.

Quote:
Flashplayerchoice is working fine, tested all options,

OK, we add it for next version then Smile

Quote:
Here's new debdog-full-install for DebianDog itself (attached).

I will add it for next version change and test it tomorrow.

Toni
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fredx181

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 11:26    Post_subject:  

Anikin, on your picture of df -h output on previous page I see /dev/shm is mounted on /live/image, I've never seen that, how come?

Fred
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anikin

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 15:05    Post_subject:  

Honestly, I don't know why that entry is there. Most likely, because I have this:
Code:
root@debian:~# ls /live
01-filesystem.squashfs  cow  image
root@debian:~#
but I never intended to have them there. I must have mixed up versions and boot options, or overcooked while remastering. This one is a workhorse for experiments. Must be an older version too, it shows wheezy 7.2 somewhere. I think, I have 2, or 3 more releases of DD (all heavily cooked), but I don't have the latest one - shame on me. When the next release is out, I will ditch them all and start afresh.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 15:39    Post_subject:  

anikin wrote:
Code:
root@debian:~# ls /live
01-filesystem.squashfs  cow  image
root@debian:~#

Having /live/cow and /live/image means live-boot-2x (initrd1.img).
/live/01-filesystem.squashfs appear when showmounts is added to the kernel boot line.
But it does not change /dev/shm linked to tmpfs /run/shm with live-boot-2x.
RemasterDog does not copy /live but recreates empty /live directory before making new module. It should be some testing you made to end up with /live populated.
I can't make appear /dev/shm mounted on /live/image while running df -h

Toni
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fredx181

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 15:41    Post_subject:  

Hi anikin.
Quote:
root@debian:~# ls /live
01-filesystem.squashfs cow image
root@debian:~#

Nothing wrong with the above but /live/image should be the mountpoint of the home drive I think, not /dev/shm.

Fred
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 16:08    Post_subject:  

Hi, Fred.

Nothing wrong with /live/image mountpoint for /dev/shm
I bet Anikin uses copy to ram live boot 2x.

Toni

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anikin

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 16:40    Post_subject:  

Upon reading your comments, I changed the menu entry and removed "showmounts" and yes, I had initrd1 changed it to initrd:
Code:
LABEL DebianDog beta
MENU DebianDog LB-3x in RAM
LINUX /live/vmlinuz1
append initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live toram=01-filesystem.squashfs config nouser nopersistent noswap nosmp noprompt nocd noeject quickreboot autologin elevator=noop video=i915:modeset=1 i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 ipv6.disable=1
ENDTEXT
and
Code:
root@debian:~# df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs         1010M  4.3M 1005M   1% /
udev             10M     0   10M   0% /dev
tmpfs           202M  280K  202M   1% /run
/dev/shm        158M  153M  4.9M  97% /lib/live/mount/medium
/dev/loop0      153M  153M     0 100% /lib/live/mount/rootfs/01-filesystem.squashfs
tmpfs          1010M     0 1010M   0% /lib/live/mount/overlay
tmpfs          1010M     0 1010M   0% /lib/live/mount/overlay
aufs           1010M  4.3M 1005M   1% /
tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs           1.2G     0  1.2G   0% /run/shm
tmpfs           1.2G   16K  1.2G   1% /tmp
root@debian:~#
Live is empty now. Forgot to mention, I also have this in fstab:
Code:
aufs / aufs rw 0 0
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=60%,mode=1777 0 0
which is wrong, I think, because this should be in fstab.d/live (if I understand it correctly). I mean I only added the tmpfs line - I don't know how the aufs line gets written there.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Jul 2014, 02:51    Post_subject:  

Hi, Anikin.
Nothing wrong. Using toram= option your boot partition is tmpfs /dev/shm
anikin wrote:
Code:
/dev/shm        158M  153M  4.9M  97% /lib/live/mount/medium

/live/image is for boot partition in squeeze (initrd1.img) and /lib/live/mount/medium is for boot partition in wheezy. in short:
/lib/live/mount/medium = /live/image
As I wrote nothing wrong with your previous boot with initrd1.img and now with initrd.img Just I and Fred never use toram= and we did not know why /live/image was mount point for /dev/shm
Now we know Smile
Quote:
I also have this in fstab:
Code:
aufs / aufs rw 0 0
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=60%,mode=1777 0 0
which is wrong, I think, because this should be in fstab.d/live (if I understand it correctly). I mean I only added the tmpfs line - I don't know how the aufs line gets written there.

Nothing wrong here also. In Wheezy Live /etc/fstab.d/live content goes in /etc/fstab Normal Wheezy Live bahaviour. It was different in Squeeze. This is actually difference in live-boot version 2 and 3 and it is included and executed from initrd1.img and initrd.img
Using initrd.img you get Wheezy structure and behaviour.
Using initrd1.img you get Squeeze structure and behaviour.

Toni

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Jul 2014, 08:10    Post_subject:  

Hi, Fred.

Tested portable DebianDog-Installer in Lupu-528 and Fluppy.
Lupu-528 - Frugal and Full install failed.
Fluppy - Full failed Frugal success.

Fluppy and Lupu-528 booted from usb (using Plop boot manager from floppy) on computer with 256 Ram. Install from iso as choice on hard drive partition /dev/sda6

More details here:
http://smokey01.com/saintless/Fredx181/Temp-stuff/test.txt

Toni

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