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Ether

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2015, 12:04    Post subject: Re: firmware-b43-installer fails on Squeeze  

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saintless wrote:

This message explains why you can't install the package - not supported low power chip.

But firmware-b43-installer installs and works great on the exact same machine using DD Jessie and MintPup.

Is the firmware-b43-installer in Squeeze repo different from the ones in Jessie and Mint repos?

If so, should I try installing firmware-b43-installer from the Jessie repo (please pardon my lack of knowledge if this suggestion is nonsense).

I will go ahead and try the other suggestions you made.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2015, 13:06    Post subject:  

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Quote:
firmware-b43-lpphy-installer is the squeeze and wheezy package for BCM4312 (with Low-Power aka LP-PHY)


OK, that works. Installed successfully; wireless connected successfully.

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2015, 13:18    Post subject:  

Ether wrote:
Installed successfully; wireless connected successfully.

Nice to read this Smile

Ether wrote:
But firmware-b43-installer installs and works great on the exact same machine using DD Jessie and MintPup.

I know but with different firmware-b43 deb package made for Jessie which includes in the same package also low power chip firmware.
Squeeze and Wheezy deb package keeps low power chip b43 firmware in different deb package called firmware-b43-lpphy-installer.
Without reading the error message about "Not supported low power chip..." posted from you I didn't know what to search as a problem.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jan 2016, 19:31    Post subject: DDsqueeze works fine on old first generation Intel Classmate  

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Hi, William.

Your motion works well on P-II, 128Mb RAM machine.
Available for installing with apt-get/synaptic motion-light package:
http://smokey01.com/saintless/DebianDog/Packages/Extra/motion-light_3.2.12_i386.deb
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install motion-light

...

Toni


Hi Toni,

(EDIT: For the above motion install to work with Debian-squeeze, using apt-get install, I think we need a copy of the motion-light deb package in DebianDog-Squeeze/Packages/Extra on smokey01 site, Toni)

As a blast from the past I resurrected an old Intel Classmate (first generation 7 inch lcd screen clamshell type - Celeron M mobile processor - 915GMS + ICH6-M, and mine was upgraded to 512MB DDR2 RAM). I originally received this machine as a development incentive from Intel research labs whilst working on foksyfeyer (almost 8 years ago! - I believe BarryK, raffy and Caneri, who told me about it, amongst others also received Classmates back in 2007/2008 - they should try your DDsqueeze on it!): Old link to foksyfeyer, but still working:

http://arkitektia.heliohost.org/foksyfeyerhome/index.html

As shown in attached photos, the classmate machine now has a damaged lcd screen: only just over half the screen still displays. Nevertheless, I had the otherwise working classmate in mind as a motion detection server (for which even no working screen would do...) using DD-squeeze and my motion-light compilation mentioned above and discussed in link here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=836950&search_id=1771780358#836950

Anyway, just reporting that the old classmate boots fine from DD-squeeze (using Porteus boot frugal install on /dev/sdb1 - the machine seems to have an SD slot under the casecover - I'll probably use that later if the classmate will boot from SD, which I believe it can EDIT: confirmed, now booting from inserted SDHC card - also, years ago, I used to boot Puppy 4 Dingo from its internal Flash drive). I boot it using grub4dos via the existing Windows XP installation using method described in Lin'N'Win project. My menu.lst stanza is:

Code:
title DDsqueeze on sdb1 using Porteus boot and changes on EXIT
root (hd1,0)
kernel /DDsqueeze/live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/DDsqueeze/ changes=EXIT:/DDsqueeze/live/
initrd /DDsqueeze/live/initrd1.xz


Wireless also worked after installing driver with:

Code:
apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-ralink


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Jan 2016, 05:35    Post subject: Re: DDsqueeze works fine on old first generation Intel Classmate  

mcewanw wrote:
(EDIT: For the above motion install to work with Debian-squeeze, using apt-get install, I think we need a copy of the motion-light deb package in DebianDog-Squeeze/Packages/Extra on smokey01 site, Toni)

Thanks William.

Motion-light available now in dd-squeeze repository:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install motion-light


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Mar 2016, 10:45    Post subject:
Subject description: Squeeze repository moved to Debian archive.
 

Debian Squeeze main, contrib and non-free repositories are available only in Debian archive now. You will get these errors running "apt-get update":
Code:
W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.


Run these commands in terminal to fix the problem:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install debdog-repo-updater
sudo apt-get update

Or change the line in /etc/apt/sources.list to archive.debian.org (installing debdog-repo-updater package will do the same change):
Code:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

And run apt-get update again.

Added in DD-Squeeze fixes post.

If we have other repository location changes in the future the package debdog-repo-updater will be upgraded to fix the problem again.

Edit: Few days later LTS, updates and backports repositories are not available now because the long term support for Squeeze is over:
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using
Some packages like virtualbox are not available for download with apt-get (synaptic) anymore. I will update the debdog-repo-updater package and try to add virtualbox and maybe other packages in dd-squeeze repo when I have time.

Edit2: Only this in sources.list works for me now:
Code:
deb http://smokey01.com/saintless/DebianDog-Squeeze/Packages/ ./

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free

I'm not sure if backports squeeze repo will appear later somewhere and how long squeeze-multimedia and security repoes will be available. This is a problem because the kernel is from backports and there is no way now to install linux-headers or virtualbox and build kernel modules. I will fix this one way or another soon. Till then use the devx and virtualbox extra modules. You can download them from Utility -> SFS-get.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2016, 12:12    Post subject:  

Important changes to keep DebianDog-Squeeze up to date:
Fixes post.

Quote:
8. The packages sfs-get-smokey-get and debdog-repo-updater upgraded becuse Debian Squeeze security and backports repositories are available only from Debian archive now. Only squeeze-multimedia repo is active outside the archive but I'm not sure for how long. I will try to mirror squeeze-multimedia i386 repo while it is still available but I need to make some space by removing modules from kazzascorner.com.au and smokey01.com first and make some script changes. In order to do that sfs-get script will download the extra modules from github.com in the future for all DD versions and MintPup.

It is recommended to install both packages by running these commands to keep sfs-get and dd-repo up to date:

Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install debdog-repo-updater sfs-get-smokey-get
sudo apt-get update


Edit: This will fix all problems from my previous post. Linux-headers, compiling tools, virtualbox are available for download with apt-get and synaptic.
After installing debdog-repo-updater /etc/apt/sources.list will have this content:
Code:
deb http://smokey01.com/saintless/DebianDog-Squeeze/Packages/ ./

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates main contrib non-free

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security squeeze/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://archive.debian.org/backports.org squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/backports.org squeeze-backports-sloppy main contrib non-free

#deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
#deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports-sloppy main contrib non-free

deb ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2016, 05:06    Post subject:  

One more upgrade for debdog-repo-updater to version 0.0.3.
The reason is because Squeeze-LTS repo in Debian archive gives expired Release message the last day:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
Hit http://archive.debian.org squeeze-lts Release.gpg
Ign http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts/main Translation-en
Ign http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts/non-free Translation-en
Hit http://archive.debian.org squeeze-lts Release
E: Release file expired, ignoring http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze-lts/Release (invalid since 17h 13min 15s)

Installing package from LTS repository will ask twice for confirmation:
Code:
sudo apt-get install libc6 libc-bin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
................................
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  libc-bin libc6 libc6-i686
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y

Probably other Squeeze repositories in Debian archive will give the same warning in time. Not a big deal and you can still install packages from LTS repo, but if you like to skip the warning in the future install the upgraded debdog-repo-updater package:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install debdog-repo-updater
sudo apt-get update

It will not change sources.list but /etc/apt/apt.conf will have line to skip this check in the future:
Code:
Acquire::Check-Valid-Until "false";


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2016, 03:42    Post subject: Iso image update  

DebianDog-Squeeze-hybrid-30.04.2016.iso available for download here.
First post and github page updated.
Included all fixes from here.
IceWeasel (3.5.16) removed because more and more web pages will not work with it. You can install it with apt-get.
As alternative browser install firefox-portable_29.0.0.0_i386.deb. Available for download with sfs-get also. The package is from Fred uploaded some time ago and it still works well with google drive and github on very low ram computer. Change the settings as you like. I made some changes like only few Mb cache, no auto updates and no crash reports.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2016, 01:58    Post subject:  

Hi.

Reading the posts after closing DebianDog-Jessie thread I don't feel I like to share or contribute anything. I wish you were in my shoes, so that one day you would be able to understand what I feel posting this below.

This project has been discontinued.
The github repository will be removed in few days.
Anyone who wants to work on it - now is the time for backup.

saintless out.

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Oct 2016, 01:12    Post subject:  

Bloody hell what a pathetic immature attitude I can't get my own way so you can't have it - grow up. What a smeghead. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2016, 14:29    Post subject:  

Robert123 wrote:
Bloody hell what a pathetic immature attitude I can't get my own way so you can't have it - grow up. What a smeghead. Rolling Eyes


That's a very subjective/incomplete point of view IMO (maybe you're right according only to saintless's last posts in the DebianDog - Jessie thread, ok)
He appeared being a very nice guy (and, btw, also almost anyone other posting there, including myself Smile ) here:
DebianDog in 'alpha' stage:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90660
It's a very big thread, but browsing it here and there, you'll probably see what I mean.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2016, 14:51    Post subject:  

It saddens me Fred that a guy like Saintless was very clever creating something so wonderful should spoil it by such an attitude at the end.

To me its like its mine you can't play with it anymore and he could have carried on doing his own thing but instead decided to be pig-headed about things and immature. Just don't get why after a long period he comes back so vicious and attacking. I'll never understand it.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2016, 15:19    Post subject:  

Robert123 wrote:
It saddens me Fred that a guy like Saintless was very clever creating something so wonderful should spoil it by such an attitude at the end.

To me its like its mine you can't play with it anymore and he could have carried on doing his own thing but instead decided to be pig-headed about things and immature. Just don't get why after a long period he comes back so vicious and attacking. I'll never understand it.


Yes, I feel the same, it's sad (and wrong) the way he did.
Indeed he could have done just his own thing instead of attacking, thanks for expressing your opinion more nuanced.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2016, 15:57    Post subject:  

No problem Fred the Debiandog development was amazing - still play with the Porteous wheezy occasionally.
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