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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 17:44    Post_subject: flash working with youtube and iceweasel 10.0.2  

saintless wrote:

Have you tried this one?
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/flashplugin-nonfree


Yes, the above flash plugin downloader worked with iceweasel 10.0.12, which I'm posting from now:

First I added the following to /etc/apt/sources.list:
Code:

deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release

You can install this iceweasel with the following commands:

$ apt-get update
$ apt-get install -t wheezy-backports iceweasel

Once you download the flashplugin-nonfree package somewhere, just right click on it in Xfe and choose "install/upgrade".

Actually, I needed to also apt-get wget and a few other dependencies since the first install failed saying it needed these, so I just needed to do an "apt-get -f install" command first, which fetches the missing dependencies, before trying again. It seems to be working fine now, though I've hardly tested it much yet. Also, I want to find out where debian actually puts the flashplugin out of curiosities sake...

Youtube playing is using quite a bit more resources (20 to 30 percent or more it seems) than in Puppy Guydog 5.01, however, but similar to most all other puppies. Not sure what is special about Guydog 5.01 - Iguleder does comment something about the Xorg high used. Can't imagine guydog includes any special graphics driver that happens to work for this old machine. Pemasu's older dpup exprimo that uses the same kernel as Guydog 5.01 has similar youtube flash performance to debian light squeeze, so something different in guydog that provides the improved flash performance. Having said that, flash does work well enough, manages fullscreen on this Pentium M 1.6Gbyte non-pae machine at close to 100% CPU. That's normal out of the box for most puppies other than guydog. I'm just checking with top quickly though, and maybe there is something wrong with my measurement. It seems to play smoothly anyway.

Hope you get round to putting iceWM on this squeeze version too; I'm looking forward to that since I imagine I might use this distribution as my main one for a while.

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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 21:04    Post_subject:  

sunburnt wrote:

Xfe only has the Fox lib. at 6 MB size.


Maybe worth then considering adding other apps that use Fox toolkit such as as rezound, shutterbug, Googles, fxite, fox_calculator etc; some of which are recently mentioned here, and elsewhere on the forum:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=703869#703869

EDIT: I imagine one problem with Debian base is getting codecs like mp3 to work with the likes of rezound (assuming it does) - I wouldn't know.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2013, 02:18    Post_subject:  

Toni I need your help now.

I want to test this one.

http://vsido.org/template/index.html

Being based on Debian it will most likely
also have the live directory which you version
also have.

Have yoo tested it if works to rename live dir
to squeezylive and get a working os
or does it get confused at updates or at apt-get
and similar expecting the old name live for the directory?

I know that SichGut told me that I could experiment with it
but being as lazy as I am ....

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2013, 05:29    Post_subject:  

Hi, Nooby Smile

This is the way to use debian live in different folder (/debian-wheezy for example). Move live folder in /debian-wheezy and use this boot code:
Code:
title Wheezy 1
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /debian-wheezy/live/vmlinuz1 boot=live config persistence swapon live-media-path=/debian-wheezy/live/ quickreboot autologin
initrd /debian-wheezy/live/initrd1.img
boot


Mcewanw, thanks for the tips and the information about flashplayer.

Cheers, Toni

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2013, 06:34    Post_subject:  

Ah so if one put it in a Dir / folder than it knows
which one to boot okay I try that one then.

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sklimkin

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2013, 10:59    Post_subject: debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS.iso - version 6.08  

Newly made ​​his debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS.iso - version 6.08.

Wanted to get a system Debian, in which live-boot the old way created DIR's /live/image and /live/cow - but today it is no longer possible.
Set of Debian repositories only live-boot ver.3.x
Install live-boot ver.2.x manually as impossible - the system breaks down.
Thus the developer live-tools Daniel Baumann securely snapped wonderful opportunity dynamically to connect and disconnect while work-session the various programs packaged in squashfs and placed directly into the ISO-image or next to it.

There are features in my new debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS.iso:
0. The system has three user: root (root) user (user) q (111111)
1. I chose desktop LXDE - it probably the most "native" for Debian.
2. if not select at Startup 1st item, but 2nd, 3rd or 4th, the system
(bypassing the user selection screen slim) is loaded to the user <user>
and "talking on the English" - menus, prompts, and so on.
When choosing the top entry of the 1st boot menu then system "talking on the Russian".
3. added applet free memory - it will be visible in the bottom panel:
Menu -> System Tools -> freememapplet (took it out of the Puppy-Linux)
the screenshot showed his by mouse-cursor - bottom right.
4. to change the of the screen resolutions there grandr (lxrandr does not work - reason?):
Menu -> Other -> grandr or top panel grandr ("Multiple Screens")
5. icons sfs-get and live-save on the desktop have yet decorative
character (difficult to abandon the idea "load-on-the-fly") - let them live .
6. Network in a virtual machine "Network Connection: eth0" is connected automatically .
7. user switching: Menu -> Logout -> Logout -> ( select box slim)
8. to install programs from the Debian repositories need to open terminal and give him commands:
apt-get install debian-archive-keyring
apt-get update
(to reduce the size of the ISO-image, files have been deleted from /var/log and /var/lib manually removed)
and then install the needed software: apt-get install <PROGRAM>
and do not forget to clean up after installation /var/cache/apt/: apt-get clean
9. in the creation of ISO-image in chroot-environment added the following software:
dialog dbus xxkb squashfs-tools dpkg
network-manager wget net-tools wireless-tools
xserver-xorg-core (--no-install-recommends)
xinit menu menu-xdg
lxde (--no-install-recommends)
grandr gparted isomaster mc rxvt-unicode openssh-server (also-client)
leafpad (default for Xorg) gpicview dillo xz-utils arj zip
live-boot live-config slim
10. file size is 182.8 MB but in its composition have DIR /_sfs size of 17.3 MB
and /live/sfs-tools.squashfs size of 780 KB, i.e. ISO size can be reduced to 165 MB.
11. By repeating a Debian-Wheezy can get close in size ISO-image.

Link's & screenshots:
debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS.iso 182.8 MB
http://yadi.sk/d/ezVV9SaEEUTCM

debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS_USER_VMware Player.png 72 KB
http://yadi.sk/d/mU1A0qNFEUU2N

debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS_ROOT_VMware Player.png 88 KB
http://yadi.sk/d/33CxhWZMEUUHd

debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS_freememapplet_VMware Player.png 123 KB
http://yadi.sk/d/AoaGk-oqEUUVT

debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS_HowTo.txt 7 KB
http://yadi.sk/d/uuCfG93VEUcXu

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add log-file of the creation hand-made Debian-live-ISO-image
install-squeeze-log-3.txt.zip
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2013, 12:36    Post_subject: Re: debian-squeeze-live-LXDE-SFS.iso - version 6.08  

Спасибо, Сергей,

This looks like impressive size with all extra stuff inside.
I like you made it english-russian user interface. It will make this project more popular and we can learn how to do things in different way.
I will use your version for a while to see how you made it up and especially how extra sfs directory with filrefox get loaded.

The Light-Squeeze I made was for my own use with low RAM computer (128 Mb ram). I can't run even old Firefox well on this machine. My best computer has 512 Mb RAM. Not like I can't afford to buy something modern, but I prefer to keep alive my old PC's.
This brought me to puppy linux.
I intend to keep it small at minimum with options for desktop icons, screenshot capture program, wifi script, calculator, torrent client, video player and may be some other stuff included. All have to work well on 128-256 MB RAM computer. Extra programs can be remastered in SFS easy from the user with proper cleaning instructions.

Cheers, Toni

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nooby

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Dec 2013, 23:35    Post_subject:  

Toni I don't find an iso with the name Squeeze anymore
on Smokey

is this the one I should use ? Light-Debian-Core-Test

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2013, 00:18    Post_subject:  

nooby wrote:
is this the one I should use ? Light-Debian-Core-Test

Hi, Nooby,
yes it is the first squeeze iso with pae kernel. There was no plan to make wheezy when I started this topic and I didn't add squeeze in the name.
Direct download link:
http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/Light-Debian-Core-Test.iso

Cheers, Toni

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2013, 04:24    Post_subject:  

That is the one that I used some hours ago and it worked
wheeze did not work says the NTFS HD is dirty. They mean
too fragmented for their taste Smile

Is that check something you can alter to the one in the Squeeze instead.
Have to run

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2013, 04:48    Post_subject: nonetworking boot parameter
Sub_title: important for persistent network settings
 

Although nobody might use this oldstable squeeze live CD I share my experience to make wifi work with this version:

It is imperative to add the boot parameter nonetworking to the boot entry
Otherways the live config tools overwrite the /etc/network/interfaces et every fresh boot.

It seems it was (is?) an undocumented boot paramter - read here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2012/03/msg00031.html

my grub4dos entry now looks like

Code:
title Light-Debian-Core-Test
 root=(hd0,3)
 kernel /live/vmlinuz boot=live config persistent nonetworking swapon quickreboot noprompt autologin
 initrd /live/initrd.img
 boot


I have an old laptop and I needed to install the b43 low power drivers (with apt-get from non free repositories)
https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx

then I set up wifi drom the commandline
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line

my /etc/network/interfaces looks like

Code:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
    wpa-ssid dummynetworkname
    wpa-psk dummypwd


now it works like charm!
maybe this can save some time, sometimes to someone.
cheers
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2013, 04:56    Post_subject:  

Hi, Emil, thank you Smile

this will save time for someone with sure.
I have few scripts for testing wifi setup but too busy with wheezy version right now. I think after New Year I will get back on squeeze with updated version.

Happy Holidays!
Cheers, Toni

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Dec 2013, 06:09    Post_subject:  

Toni programming should be fun
so no need to rush things Smile

I trust we all love that you are at it
when you feel for it.

And thanks to Emil for the nonetworking tip.

So if I add this one the wifi woudl work
and it would not stop the cable connection?

Would save other great amount of time
to find that boot parameter.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jul 2014, 07:39    Post_subject:  

Reading the previous post I feel like Nooby is still here with us...

I didn't rush and it is time to update Light-Debian-Core-Live-CD-Squeeze to DebianDog-Squeeze for anyone interested.
Previous base iso files removed.

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jul 2014, 14:54    Post_subject:  

DebianDog-Squeeze iso updated with latest changes for Wheezy version + some more script adapting for Squeeze like Monitor Settings saving and encrypted save file GUI auto-creates persistence.conf inside for live-boot-3x.
I'm not planning to make further iso updates. Future new packages and fixes will be available for download from the site.

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