Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014

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playdayz · #91 Post by **playdayz** » Thu 05 Dec 2013, 20:30

Current Puppy will never boot as fast as Windows or Ubuntu. Windows 7 - 15 seconds from ssd, Ubuntu 12.10 *8* seconds from ssd!

They do this by making reaching the desktop top priority.
A lot of stuff is still being booted behind the eye candy of the desktop.

Yes, definitely true Bigpup. I tried to more or less compensate by stopping the timer at a "usable" desktop, meaning the internet was connected, the menu button would immediately open the menu, and programs would start when clicked in their usual amount of time. No doubt there were still things going on behind the scenes. I trust it was clear that I regard the Puppy timings as basically good news, not as criticism compared to windows or ubuntu (but 8 seconds to a usable desktop was pretty breathtaking). Plus windows and ubuntu on a hard disk instead of an ssd would be slower.

bigpup · #92 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 05 Dec 2013, 23:45

Well , Puppy did make it into the list of:

The five fastest-booting Linux distributions
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-a ... ributions/

Deacon · #93 Post by **Deacon** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 00:42

Testing the upgraded system Midori no longer runs. It gives a

(midori 4:12233): **GLIB-GIO ERROR** settings-schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' is not installed

error

Trace/Breakpoint Trap

Ideas?

RSH · #94 Post by **RSH** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 01:18

bigpup wrote:Well , Puppy did make it into the list of:

The five fastest-booting Linux distributions
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-a ... ributions/

By Jack Wallen in Five Apps, December 12, 2011, 12:08 AM PST

playdayz · #95 Post by **playdayz** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 01:24

01micko, The kernel boot parameter acpi_osi=Linux seems to fix my problem with the screen not coming back from standby. Yippee, I don't know if it would be good for general use or not--I read that it is supposed to solve various problems with screen, back-light, standby and hibernation.

Laptop acpi odds and ends: 1) won't go into standby with any usb mounted (expected behavior I assume); 2) need Frisbee to come back from standby not SNS (also expected I believe).

Well , Puppy did make it into the list of:

The five fastest-booting Linux distributions

Yes, I was trying to say the boot timing results were positive. But there is no such thing as too fast

gcmartin · #96 Post by **gcmartin** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 06:12

Slacko booted in several cases in less than a minute from Live media DVD.

Hope this is helpful to anyone who expects to run Slacko from Live disc(s)..

Also, its very important to note that once the system is booted to RAM, Slacko performance is IDENTICAL to frugal performance and should be better overall than even what one gets on a "installed -to-HDD" approach to systems operation.

Live media via CD/DVD is still an excellent offering and feature of Puppy Linux distros!

Ted Dog · #97 Post by **Ted Dog** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 19:09

bluray is about 4x faster. was the iso made with isolevel 4? could a dev post the mkiso command string ( saw that wolf was still old methods )

01micko · #98 Post by **01micko** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 19:59

Ted Dog wrote:bluray is about 4x faster. was the iso made with isolevel 4? could a dev post the mkiso command string ( saw that wolf was still old methods )

Ted Dog, can you make a patch and do a pull request? That is, sync your git fork with woof-CE testing, then fix up the command how you reckon it should be, then on the GitHub site click "pull request". THat prompts us to look at your changes, pull them into testing branch and make a woof build and test them! I don't know your experience with git so tell me to shove off if you know better.

bigpup · #99 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 20:18

New version.

pBurn 4.3.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881

From Barry's blog:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00012

In "noarch" and "common" directories, there are many PETs that are created by various developers, such as Sigmund's Pmusic and rcrsn51's peasyGlue, but I am not keeping the repo up-to-date with the latest PETs.

bigpup · #100 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 20:36

Grub4DosConfig V1.9
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

Ted Dog · #101 Post by **Ted Dog** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 22:55

01micko wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:bluray is about 4x faster. was the iso made with isolevel 4? could a dev post the mkiso command string ( saw that wolf was still old methods )
Ted Dog, can you make a patch and do a pull request? That is, sync your git fork with woof-CE testing, then fix up the command how you reckon it should be, then on the GitHub site click "pull request". THat prompts us to look at your changes, pull them into testing branch and make a woof build and test them! I don't know your experience with git so tell me to shove off if you know better.

can I say shove off anyway...

well due to a fall and visit to ER I was not able to make much progress setting up wolf I did set up an account at github and checked out some ones build. However I am at the Ranch this weekend during our icestorm weekend to run water and feed ritters Texans generally do not have to worry about long hard freezes so none of the extra water protection messures are put in place. Most of my well water system is above ground and uninsulated. So I am turning it on to pump water after nightfall and turn it off when above freezing Saturday afternoon.

Ted Dog · #102 Post by **Ted Dog** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 23:06

but My new android phone allows me to download pets and isos files at 4G LTE. I have been very conservative on my data usage and have about 1G left till Sunday rollover to new month. Ive downloaded this version and can reroll iso with Bluray and patch multisession to match so no big deal. At the ranch I can get both San Antonio and Austin TV so I hope something is on somewhere..
Still have the zip file of wolf on my main laptop I have with me but without real internet I m not sure if I can do much.

bigpup · #103 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 06 Dec 2013, 23:48

I decided to start using the personal version of Firefox and not the ESR version.

Installed a Firefox 24 pet package from Lucid Puppy repository.
This personal Firefox 24 auto updated to firefox 25.0.1
Firefox internal update works in it.

Did have one problem.
It made Help, from the desktop icon and the menu, not work.

Had to change the default HTML viewer to the defaultbrowser to fix it.

The defaulthtmlviewer was set to firefox.

Still have both versions of Firefox installed. Just the Firefox command does not say which one to use.

bigpup · #104 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 07 Dec 2013, 04:20

Newer version.

Firewall status tray icon - firewallstate-2.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57725

playdayz · #105 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 07 Dec 2013, 16:18

Installed a Firefox 24 pet package from Lucid Puppy repository.
This personal Firefox 24 auto updated to firefox 25.0.1
Firefox internal update works in it.

Did have one problem.
It made Help, from the desktop icon and the menu, not work.

Bigpup, Lucid packages are only tested on Lucid. 01micko might have different standards for the browser pet packages in Slacko. This solution might cause no problems. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 554#741554

FWIW, they do the same security updates on ESR as the regular versions...

Yes James C, but the "default" channel versions do not update. Look at Firefox -> Help -> About.

bigpup · #106 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 07 Dec 2013, 20:49

Playdayz,

I do not think it would have been an issue with any other internet browsers. Trying to us a different type of Firefox browser, that needed different start commands, I think caused the problem.

Anyway, the key component seemed to be what was the default html viewer.
Changed it to defaultbrowser from just firefox.
Now when I click on help
It starts the defaulthtmlviewer
Which is the defaultbrowser
Which is Firefox 25.0.1 not Firefox ESR

From the start. Might be better to have defaulthtmlviewer set to use the defaultbrowser.

This is testing, so shows something that could happen.

don570 · #107 Post by **don570** » Sat 07 Dec 2013, 20:55

People can test the nightly build of Audacity

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 133#742133

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SFR · #108 Post by **SFR** » Sat 07 Dec 2013, 21:26

Speaking of updates:
- TAS-1.3
- FFConvert-1.4

I don't know if it was intentional removal, but accidently noticed the lack of /lib/libgudev-1.0.so..., which was present in previous Slackos.
Just being vigilant.

Greetings!

playdayz · #109 Post by **playdayz** » Sun 08 Dec 2013, 01:04

Experimental. Chrome 31 for testing in Slacko 5.6.3. This uses a different method to start chrome than the Chrome 28 pet in the repo, though it is based on that. The difference is the exec command in /usr/bin/google-chrome.sh. I think it starts up quicker this way (but Firefox starts up faster!). Chrome has built-in flashplayer which I tested with youtube. The "chrome phone home" options are turned off by default in Settings -> Advanced settings (the ones that can be). It does not set itself as defaultbrowser. I almost forgot, you will need to install GConf from PPM, which will also install polkit.

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#!/bin/bash
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/google/chrome:/usr/lib/firefox-17.0.11:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
#LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libpuppygc.so" exec /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome "$@"
exec /opt/google/chrome/chrome --user-data-dir=/root/.config/google-chrome "$@"

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/googl ... slacko.pet

Deacon · #110 Post by **Deacon** » Sun 08 Dec 2013, 08:16

What about Midori arrgh I know we can do it

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Midori break?