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Rodney Byne

Joined: 31 Jan 2014
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 19:04    Post subject:  

Hi to bigpup,

"You could place them in /mnt/home
That is still on the Flash drive, but outside of the save file."

That's a good idea I will do that.

"You could change how you made the save file.
When asked to make a save file, there is an option to use the entire flash drive."

Yes there is that option in Precise 5.7.1 but I'm sure I didn't see it in Slacko otherwise I would have used it.
The limits are from a minimum 32Mb to just over 4Gb.

"This option puts some of the Puppy directories on the drive and saves in them. Only size limit is size of drive."

I've no doubt this is true - if only, in my case.
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Hi to SFR,

"Actually it can be, see Menu -> Utility -> Resize personal storage file
4Gb is max size, but only for initial savefile."

Now I tried doing all that and put the process through the motions
twice to attempt in doubling the size, but after each reboot the size remained unaltered at 3.9Gb.
That was a surprise - no a shock.
Although I know this works with an 8Gb stick, cos I made one up
a few days earlier and it all performs a dream.

I wonder if all the above is connected with the large flashdrive
size - Slacko can't cope with caching 32Gb and it messes with
the processes, or is that unproven?
Would the same things happen installing to a conventional large hard drive?

All interesting stuff, I've learned a few useful things today.

Am considering using the 8Gb install with files in /mnt/home and/or an empty 32Gb as external swopping storage - that's the next experiment.
Cheers.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 19:47    Post subject:  

Quote:
Now I tried doing all that and put the process through the motions
twice to attempt in doubling the size, but after each reboot the size remained unaltered at 3.9Gb.
That was a surprise - no a shock.

Resizing the savefile > 4GB requires a filesystem capable to hold files larger than 4GB - perhaps your USB stick is formatted to FAT (which has the mentioned limitation)?

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 22:32    Post subject:  

Quote:
"You could change how you made the save file.
When asked to make a save file, there is an option to use the entire flash drive."

Yes there is that option in Precise 5.7.1 but I'm sure I didn't see it in Slacko otherwise I would have used it.
The limits are from a minimum 32Mb to just over 4Gb.

Sorry, I assumed it was still an option.
You know what they say about assume Embarassed

I wonder why the "save to entire flash drive" was removed from the save options?
Maybe a bug in Slacko 5.7.

01micko,
Did you remove this save option?
If so, why?

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 01:10    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

I wonder why the "save to entire flash drive" was removed from the save options?

The option is not removed.
However, is shows only if the device has an "ext2|ext3|ext4|reiserfs|minix|btrfs|f2fs" partition and the puppy files are not in a subdirectory (true also in precise).

Given the "disappearance" of the option and he 4GB "limit" in savefile, it would appear that SFR's suggestion above is the most likely. The stick is FAT formatted.
Type "df -hT" in the terminal to verify it.

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 14:36    Post subject:  

mavrothal,

I am sure glad that program is smarter than me Very Happy
Totally forgot to think about the limits, on what can be done, using Fat format.

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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 17:44    Post subject: installing slacko to usb  

Hi to all,

I read the above posts and so to correct my mistake,
re expanding the savefile size using a vfat usb,

first I made a bootable DVD of Slacko 5.7 using Brasero
burner in Xubuntu.
After booting the disk successfully, then I tried to run the
Installer prog to put Slacko on to USB flashdrive but it said it
can't find the plugged-in ext2 stick!!
Could somebody try this and confirm why this is happening please?

(Yes I HAD originally formatted my 32Gb stick in vfat and have
since re-formatted it in ext2 and it's boot-flagged at the ready)

Continuing,
I am sitting at this laptop running Xubuntu on an ext4 formatted
hard drive and the Slacko 5.7 iso has been saved in Downloads.

With the correctly re-formatted ext2 stick plugged in,
what are the terminal commands step-by-step for installing the
puppy slacko 5.7 iso file to that usb flash drive please?

If I could copy/paste them in line by line, that would be most helpful
so I can continue to finish this usb installation properly.
Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 18:42    Post subject: Save-session options presented the user after pristine boot  

@Big Pup & @Mavrothal, thanks. You got me to thinking about the option to save direct to a partition's filesystem vs save session to a file in the filesystem. I know the utility to do so have been in existence for years and lots of thought has transpired, but, I took a look at the recent table for filesizes and thought it appropriate to present for development review.

I ask
    Should the option to allow save-session directly to a partition be allowed no matter what the running filesystem is as long as it one of these shown? Or is there some additional reason, other than filesize, that the selection given to the user is pruned?
Thanks in advance for any answer

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Apr 2014, 23:53    Post subject: Re: Save-session options presented the user after pristine boot  

gcmartin wrote:
is there some additional reason, other than filesize?

Mainly, file permissions.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Apr 2014, 00:48    Post subject:  

Quote:
After booting the disk successfully, then I tried to run the
Installer prog to put Slacko on to USB flashdrive but it said it
can't find the plugged-in ext2 stick!!

While running from the live Slacko 5.7 DVD:

Can you mount the flash drive by clicking on its desktop drive icon?
If yes.
Try doing that and then running the Puppy Universal Installer.

If you used Gparted to partition and format, use it to do a check of the flash drive.
Right click on drive partition and choose check.
May be something wrong with the file system on it.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Apr 2014, 02:01    Post subject:  

@Mavrothal, Thanks . You're right, that's a show-stopper. I must be (better yet, "I am") getting old. See @Big PUP, that memory thing is not limited. I cant remember everything either. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Apr 2014, 04:23    Post subject: Slacko 5.7 final
Subject description: noarch repo
 

Just a small note:

Non-English noobies seem to have difficulties to find their language pack.
They are in repo puppy-noarch-official which is by default not activated

Possible solutions
add noarch repo
- inactivate another repo
or
- increase allowed number of repos Question

EDIT:
or
- add elsewhere some message like:
Configure your package manager to include repo "Puppy-noarch-official"
then find 'langpack' (without quotes) will find all language packs" Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Apr 2014, 12:11    Post subject:  

I've made an rox-app for browse icon.

With it i have option to choose browser (if there is installed more) via right mouse button or change beahavior of browser icon simply using as argument eg. "--dillo".

Maybe for Puppy Linux we could make similar apps for rest icons and modify those apps when we install new pets?
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Apr 2014, 15:25    Post subject: Partview  

In partview, is there a way to change the colours/font?

Mine's pretty unreadable as-is (Slacko 5.7.0)
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Apr 2014, 15:53    Post subject:  

You have script svg_bar in usr/lib/gtkdialog folder, you can try to change colors there:

Code:

COLOR_USED='#006793'
COLOR_TOTAL='#444444'
COLOR_TEXT='#bbbbbb'
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Apr 2014, 15:56    Post subject: Re: Partview  

rufwoof wrote:
In partview, is there a way to change the colours/font?

Mine's pretty unreadable as-is (Slacko 5.7.0)


I am working on a user-interface for theming of templates in /usr/lib/gtkdialog/, and will hopefully be a part of the next Puppy.


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