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Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014
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Tman


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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 00:34    Post subject:  

Thnaks for the pet, Marthovol Smile
I am about to go to sleep right now, but will download and test it tommorrow.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 04:30    Post subject:  

Should I start a new thread or ask in this thread about Slacko 5.7.

Barry recommend we use it and others do too.

The problem for me is that I have Firefox symlinked from the HD
to the OS So Firefox browser need no save file filled with cache

and such taking up a lot of space.

Now if I do a frugal install of Slacko 5.7 having two such
would require me being able to isolate from from each other
so they work well together,

I feel very unsure of if it helps to have these in two separate Directories.
I could maybe make use of two separate computer but that feels like
overkill and not so practical to use.

And one can not make use of both FF connecting to same symlink?

So what would you suggest? I lack needed knowledge on how to do it.

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MochiMoppel


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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 06:02    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Should I start a new thread or ask in this thread about Slacko 5.7.
You are already asking, but I don't see how this is related to Slacko 5.7. It's a FF question, not even limited to Puppy.
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Now if I do a frugal install of Slacko 5.7 having two such
would require me being able to isolate from from each other
so they work well together
If you run FF from outside the savefile and if, as you say, the cache doesn't fill the savefile, then you must have configured to use a cache directory other than /root/.cache/mozilla/firefox. If this is the case, then running Slacko's built-in FF and your HD FF in paralled should be no problem. What I dont' understand: If you already use your customized FF, why do you care for the (outdated) built-in FF? Just don't use the latter.
Even if both FF installation share the same cache, there should be no problems (my experience with Opera. FF could be different). Letting both installation share the same profile could be a bigger problem if the versions are different. By default the built-in and your HD FF use the same profile directory /root/.mozilla/firefox. You can change this by starting FF with the -profile <profilepath> command line option and thus keep profiles completely separate.
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And one can not make use of both FF connecting to same symlink?.
What symlink? Do you need one?
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Tman


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 00:22    Post subject:  

mavrothal, your pet fixed my problem with sfs manager, thank you.

@01micko & all,

Currently, I have found 2 issues with the new Slacko 5.7.

(1) My wired internet connection was not autodetected upon first boot.
I was easily able to configure it to get an internet connection, but noobs might have a harder time.

(2) When I tried to install other Window Mangers (specifically xfwm4 and openbox), no icons would appear in the tray. Whereas when I tried Jwm with the same panels, the tray icons would appear. I noticed that delayedrun has changed since Slacko 5.5 (I didn't try out version 5.6 much, so I'm not sure about the delayedrun in that version). But when I tried to copy over the delayedrun file in Slacko 5.5 and restarted, my problem was not fixed.. so I reverted back to the original 5.7 delayedrun file.

I hope these issues will get resolved in future releases. On the bright side, the new graphical interfaces are looking nice! Eg. logout_gui, internet connection interface.. etc.

For those who want a more detailed look under the hood of what I've done, please see my JX_Slacko 5.7 release version 0.2 in the link below.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92693
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 00:55    Post subject:  

Tman wrote:

(2) When I tried to install other Window Mangers (specifically xfwm4 and openbox), no icons would appear in the tray.

This is because autostarting apps have been moved to /root/.config/autostart.
Your panel config should look there for these.
You could symlink /root/Startup to /root/.config/autostart but then you may also want to modify /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc so will not start apps in /root/.config/autostart, or you end up with double icons.
Keep in mind though that option b could be broken after some pet installation, so I would go with option a. Besides, having auto started files in /{etc,$HOME}/*/autostart is rather the standard in linux.

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Tman


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 01:07    Post subject:  

Hi mavrothal, that was one quick reply

mavrothal wrote:

This is because autostarting apps have been moved to /root/.config/autostart.


Ahh..so that is where they went to. I tried the symlink method and rebooted, but sadly, no tray icons did appear in Openbox and I did not get double icons in the JWM tray. Perhaps when you have time, you could give my puplet a test?

Anyway, thanks for your help.. logging out.. off to sleep soon.
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 02:12    Post subject:  

Tman wrote:
I tried the symlink method and rebooted, but sadly, no tray icons did appear in Openbox and I did not get double icons in the JWM tray. Perhaps when you have time, you could give my puplet a test?


Ah, that's probably because they are desktop files instead of executables and they need to be called with xdg-open. So delayedrun has to be modified too at line 162. But since is going to be used for both scripts and desktop files should be a bit more complex than just adding "xdg-open".
see if this may work in line 162
Code:
if [ -x "$a" ];then $a &; xdg-open $a &

Though as I said is better to go with option (a) Wink

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Tman


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 08:32    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:

Though as I said is better to go with option (a) Wink


Uhh.. I'm clueless as how to accomplish option a that at this moment Embarassed but will try to look into it. Thanks for the advice.
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 11:58    Post subject:  

Tman wrote:

Uhh.. I'm clueless as how to accomplish option a that at this moment Embarassed but will try to look into it. Thanks for the advice.

Openbox reads $HOME/.config/openbox/autostart and XFCE $HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc, usually.
So you can add something similar to the jwmrc entry ie
Code:
for i in $HOME/.config/autostart/*.desktop;do if [ -f $i ];then xdg-open $i;fi;done

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Tman


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 12:09    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Tman wrote:

Uhh.. I'm clueless as how to accomplish option a that at this moment Embarassed but will try to look into it. Thanks for the advice.

Openbox reads $HOME/.config/openbox/autostart and XFCE $HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc, usually.
So you can add something similar to the jwmrc entry ie
Code:
for i in $HOME/.config/autostart/*.desktop;do if [ -f $i ];then xdg-open $i;fi;done


Thanks again, Mavrothal! I will try that approach later tonight. I did manage to get the tray icons to work by reverting to the old Puppy method..that is by keeping /root/Startup as a folder (not a symlink) and creating shell scripts in that folder, instead of .desktop files in /root/.config/autostart

But I want to get it working using the new technique, since the old method is going to become deprecated...
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radky

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Apr 2014, 18:20    Post subject:
Subject description: FbBox
 

FbBox desktop environment

Supports Slacko and Slacko64

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92982
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Rodney Byne

Joined: 31 Jan 2014
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 15:36    Post subject: Flashdrive size & personal storage free space  

Hi to all for advice.

I am interested in authoring & burning holiday DVDs for playing on a DVD player.
I can do this in Windows 7, but wanted to be able to replicate
this process in Linux.

This requires copying VOB files from my camcorder mini-discs
to root folders on desktop.
Having VOBs from 3 mini-discs to 1 DVD, requires renaming them
to be in contiguous number order for burning.

To start the burning process, VOBs have to be converted in Handbrake
to MP4 Mpeg2.

Mpeg files are then imported to Pburn for authoring and burning in
a continuous movie stream to a blank DVD.

I have installed Slacko to a 32Gb flashdrive & the maximum allowed
slacko savefile.2fs size is about 4Gb, which cannot be further expanded.

My theoretical question is:
If total VOBs are 5Gb, total converted Mpegs are 5GB and the
finalized DVD is 5Gb, how will the meagre 4Gb savefile size cope?
Will excess of the total stored video data be able to spill over to
the larger free-space part of the flashdrive without reducing the
savefile size to zero?

Eventually, will the personal storage free space return to normal
when the temporary VOBs and Mpegs are deleted?

Alternatively, perhaps another temporary external storage flashdrive
is needed for process-swapping the copied VOBs and converted Mpegs.

Any ideas on all this please & regards.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 15:59    Post subject:  

You could place them in /mnt/home
That is still on the Flash drive, but outside of the save file.

You could change how you made the save file.
When asked to make a save file, there is an option to use the entire flash drive.
This option puts some of the Puppy directories on the drive and saves in them. Only size limit is size of drive.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 16:10    Post subject:  

Quote:
Alternatively, perhaps another temporary external storage flashdrive is needed for process-swapping the copied VOBs and converted Mpegs

That should work too.

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SFR


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Apr 2014, 16:24    Post subject:  

Rodney Byne wrote:
I have installed Slacko to a 32Gb flashdrive & the maximum allowed
slacko savefile.2fs size is about 4Gb, which cannot be further expanded.


Actually it can be, see Menu -> Utility -> Resize personal storage file
4Gb is max size, but only for initial savefile.

BTW:
ttuuxxx@http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=501464#501464 wrote:
The largest pupsave I've made was 35GB.


Rodney Byne wrote:
If total VOBs are 5Gb, total converted Mpegs are 5GB and the
finalized DVD is 5Gb, how will the meagre 4Gb savefile size cope?

It won't and bad things may start to happen.
Actually, if you're running Slacko from the flashdrive and have the savefile.2fs, Puppy is in PUPMODE=13 (unless you've changed something manually), which means that everything newly created/copied to the root filesystem resides in RAM (tmpfs), so you'd need more than 15GB of RAM (or large swap file/partition) in order to handle this situation...

So indeed, processing all those large files outside of the savefile/tmpfs is the best idea.
Also, in Pburn's preferences, you can define the location for temp files (the default is in /root/my-documents/tmp).

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