Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014

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Ted Dog · #46 Post by **Ted Dog** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 11:43

musher0 wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:go on and keep harping on petty quirks that need fixing. upload those bad boys code fixes to wolfce and let the rest of us cboose to include them. One great benefit of open woofce is some of this tiny pet peeves can finally be fixed. Mine are the multisession bug AND mouse freeze on non racy or wary builds.
do not let the rising dictators of the code base force you into silence. Im fighting this mindset from the get-go. And be rude, they are! how dare they force their will on a open source project!!!

Hello, TedDog.

English is not my mother-tongue. I'm relatively at ease with "official"
English, but I easily get lost in "colloquial" English. So I'm not sure who
you are mocking: me, perhaps?

I'll only add that, rare as it may appear to be, failure to create the 2nd
most important file in a Puppy system is hardly a "tiny problem" for the
user. It prevents him/her to use that Puppy in any meaningful way.

Best regards.

musher0

Musher sorry english is not my native tougue either And Im not sure what is my mother tougue. I was raised in Berlin by American parents, for my own protection raised by german nanny/body guard, my family was trailed by East German spys ( one of which tried to defect to my dad ) went to school with other kids with high profile parents my best friend was the french diplomats son. My parents spoke many languages at home and at state dinners and school was the same English, Spanish, German ( most common) and French. I was taught official English by British specialists of standard English. And if I was not returned from being kidnapped by the East German Spys I'd be posting this in Russian!

Ted Dog · #47 Post by **Ted Dog** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 12:06

Musher0 I was supporting you. I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.

Billtoo · #48 Post by **Billtoo** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 12:41

@01micko
I made a pet of the Ratpoison window manager to use in this alpha version of
slacko.
I think that it works very well on the 11.6" screen of this netbook in
combination with the trackpad or mouse.

CTRL-t ? brings up a screen showing the key bindings
CTRL-t ! firefox ....starts firefox
CTRL-t ! osmo ....starts osmo
etc
etc
I also have PupShutdown installed (CTRL-t ! PupShutdown) which makes
it easy to turn off the computer or logout to the prompt and restart
jwm if need be.

Here it is if you'd like to take it for a spin.

Iguleder · #49 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 12:47

Ratpoison is awesome - make sure you patch it, so ^T-q works.

IMHO, a Slacko Ratpoison remix for power users could be nice

wanderer · #50 Post by **wanderer** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 17:32

hi iguleder

is this latest slacko from woof ce
the one you intend to use as a base
for the community edition

wanderer

Iguleder · #51 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 18:03

I never said I'm going to produce a "community edition", because Slacko already is a community-built Puppy.

I'm just a contributor.

playdayz · #52 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 18:04

. something about the power not being on at port early in the boot process.

Ted Dog, Yes. That makes sense because it is it is somehow timing related on mine. Get this, if there is a cd in the odd then the computer will find and boot from usb3 device. No cd in drive the computer will not find the usb3 device! Or maybe having to read the cd causes some other benefit. Not a Slacko problem of course.

musher0 · #53 Post by **musher0** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 20:15

Ted Dog wrote:
musher0 wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:go on and keep harping on petty quirks that need fixing. upload those bad boys code fixes to wolfce and let the rest of us cboose to include them. One great benefit of open woofce is some of this tiny pet peeves can finally be fixed. Mine are the multisession bug AND mouse freeze on non racy or wary builds.
do not let the rising dictators of the code base force you into silence. Im fighting this mindset from the get-go. And be rude, they are! how dare they force their will on a open source project!!!

Hello, TedDog.

English is not my mother-tongue. I'm relatively at ease with "official"
English, but I easily get lost in "colloquial" English. So I'm not sure who
you are mocking: me, perhaps?

I'll only add that, rare as it may appear to be, failure to create the 2nd
most important file in a Puppy system is hardly a "tiny problem" for the
user. It prevents him/her to use that Puppy in any meaningful way.

Best regards.

musher0
Musher sorry english is not my native tougue either And Im not sure what is my mother tougue. I was raised in Berlin by American parents, for my own protection raised by german nanny/body guard, my family was trailed by East German spys ( one of which tried to defect to my dad ) went to school with other kids with high profile parents my best friend was the french diplomats son. My parents spoke many languages at home and at state dinners and school was the same English, Spanish, German ( most common) and French. I was taught official English by British specialists of standard English. And if I was not returned from being kidnapped by the East German Spys I'd be posting this in Russian!

Hi, TedDog.

Certainly, a movie was made ?!

musher0

musher0 · #54 Post by **musher0** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 20:22

Ted Dog wrote:Musher0 I was supporting you. I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.

Hello, Ted Dog.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the precision.

So then, we have to gather all theses fixes and publish a (e)book!

It will sell many copies, we'll be asked to talk on talk shows, royalties will be enormous...

BFN.

musher0

Jades · #55 Post by **Jades** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 20:38

playdayz wrote:On the lighter side: I found out this morning that the warning about putting a pupsave on an ntfs disk should be taken seriously

Anything specific I should keep an eye out for? Most of the pupsaves on our Pentium D are stored on the NTFS-formatted hard drive that the XP install is on. I'll error check and defrag before creating a save.

Edit: fixed typo.

James C · #56 Post by **James C** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 20:54

Fresh manual frugal install. Looking good. Needed to use nouveau.noaccel=1.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
1331 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.154 FPS
1486 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.060 FPS
1655 frames in 5.0 seconds = 330.980 FPS
1683 frames in 5.0 seconds = 336.590 FPS
1681 frames in 5.0 seconds = 336.112 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3887MB (196MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.3
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 30 Nov 2013 03:05:32 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Code: Select all

# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3887800       765088      3122712            0        65356
-/+ buffers:             699732      3188068
Swap:      6211580            0      6211580
#

mavrothal · #57 Post by **mavrothal** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 21:08

Ted Dog wrote:I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.

musher0 wrote:we have to gather all theses fixes and publish a (e)book!

Do not curse the darkens. Light a candle.
Provide a patch.
That what "community edition" means.

Billtoo · #58 Post by **Billtoo** » Sat 30 Nov 2013, 23:06

Iguleder wrote:Ratpoison is awesome - make sure you patch it, so ^T-q works.

IMHO, a Slacko Ratpoison remix for power users could be nice

I applied your patch (found out how to do it by doing a google search) and I think that I did it correctly.

playdayz · #59 Post by **playdayz** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 00:00

On the lighter side: I found out this morning that the warning about putting a pupsave on an ntfs disk should be taken seriously Embarassed

Anything specific I should keep an eye out for?

Jades, The boot just went all to heck trying to read the pupsave. I thought it was "light" because I have always seen the warning but almost always stored on a linux partition. If you have had no problems then I would assume the culprit is the SSD drive that I am using--they have weird voodoo electronics inside (I understand), which make it inadvisable according to what I read to defrag them. But dang are they fast.

Deacon · #60 Post by **Deacon** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 02:11

mavrothal wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.

musher0 wrote:we have to gather all theses fixes and publish a (e)book!
Do not curse the darkens. Light a candle.
Provide a patch.
That what "community edition" means.

I thought the community edition was going to be either Precise or an entire redo? I just figured this was the next version of Slacko.

I can't get my VB to do it, so I am going to have to break down and buy another flash drive.

gcmartin · #61 Post by **gcmartin** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 06:08

Deacon wrote:... I am going to have to break down and buy another flash drive.

I have this running on a CD and it also saves all session changes I make ... similar to what a frugal install does. I've only boot it twice thus far. The ISO can be burned to CD-R, CD-RW, DVD+/-R, DVD+/-RW, Blu-Ray. This can be an extremely inexpensive way to go while getting great/similar benefit as well.

Hope this helps

Billtoo · #62 Post by **Billtoo** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 08:04

Manual frugal install to the hard drive, computer is a gateway desktop.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sun 1 Dec 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.6.3 Linux 3.10.19 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 319.76

AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: @800 1: @2600 2: @800 3: @800 MHz

Memory 8311MB (125MB used)
Linksys WUSB54GC 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]

I installed the latest proprietary nvidia driver for the graphics card.
While installing kdegames in PPM it seemed to stall so I killed it and
restarted PPM a few seconds later, before I could re-select kdegames
the downloading kept on where it left off and kdegames works.

That's it so far.

EDIT:
I added Ratpoison wm, it works well on a large monitor too

01micko · #63 Post by **01micko** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 08:23

Thanks Billtoo,

Now I think it's time to unleash this mini beast of a script to download and install (and make a pet in the process) either the fglrx legacy driver or a beta from a couple of months ago, actually the same version built for 5.6. The newest beta driver I couldn't get to work. These are built thanks to the work of Krzysztof Kolasa who builds neat patches for fglrx drivers.

As for the script, well you need to know what driver you need. You are given a choice, legacy or the newer driver, it will then download the driver and the appropriate kolasa git repo, extract and patch the source, build and install the driver, then retrieve all installed files to build a pet package, complete with pinstall.sh.

Have fun!

(Thanks to SFR for testing).

Billtoo · #64 Post by **Billtoo** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 08:54

I ran the script and it worked fine:

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sun 1 Dec 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.6.3 Linux 3.10.19 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context

AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Core 0: @800 MHz

It even made a pet..thanks for this.

01micko · #65 Post by **01micko** » Sun 01 Dec 2013, 09:52

Billtoo wrote:I ran the script and it worked fine:

....

It even made a pet..thanks for this.

.. Glad it worked fine.

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