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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 07:43    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:
go on and keep harping on petty quirks that need fixing. upload those bad boys code fixes to wolfce and let the rest of us cboose to include them. One great benefit of open woofce is some of this tiny pet peeves can finally be fixed. Mine are the multisession bug AND mouse freeze on non racy or wary builds.
do not let the rising dictators of the code base force you into silence. Im fighting this mindset from the get-go. And be rude, they are! how dare they force their will on a open source project!!!
Twisted Evil


Hello, TedDog.

English is not my mother-tongue. I'm relatively at ease with "official"
English, but I easily get lost in "colloquial" English. So I'm not sure who
you are mocking: me, perhaps? Shocked Smile

I'll only add that, rare as it may appear to be, failure to create the 2nd
most important file in a Puppy system is hardly a "tiny problem" for the
user. It prevents him/her to use that Puppy in any meaningful way.

Best regards.

musher0


Musher sorry english is not my native tougue either And Im not sure what is my mother tougue. I was raised in Berlin by American parents, for my own protection raised by german nanny/body guard, my family was trailed by East German spys ( one of which tried to defect to my dad ) went to school with other kids with high profile parents my best friend was the french diplomats son. My parents spoke many languages at home and at state dinners and school was the same English, Spanish, German ( most common) and French. I was taught official English by British specialists of standard English. And if I was not returned from being kidnapped by the East German Spys I'd be posting this in Russian!
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 08:06    Post subject:  

Musher0 I was supporting you. I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 08:41    Post subject: Slacko testing (for 5.7)  

@01micko
I made a pet of the Ratpoison window manager to use in this alpha version of
slacko.
I think that it works very well on the 11.6" screen of this netbook in
combination with the trackpad or mouse.

CTRL-t ? brings up a screen showing the key bindings
CTRL-t ! firefox ....starts firefox
CTRL-t ! osmo ....starts osmo
etc
etc
I also have PupShutdown installed (CTRL-t ! PupShutdown) which makes
it easy to turn off the computer or logout to the prompt and restart
jwm if need be.

Here it is if you'd like to take it for a spin.
ratpoison-1.4.6-slacko-i686.pet
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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 08:47    Post subject:  

Ratpoison is awesome - make sure you patch it, so ^T-q works.

IMHO, a Slacko Ratpoison remix for power users could be nice Idea

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wanderer

Joined: 20 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 13:32    Post subject:  

hi iguleder

is this latest slacko from woof ce
the one you intend to use as a base
for the community edition

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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 14:03    Post subject:  

I never said I'm going to produce a "community edition", because Slacko already is a community-built Puppy.

I'm just a contributor.

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playdayz


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 14:04    Post subject:  

Quote:
. something about the power not being on at port early in the boot process.

Ted Dog, Yes. That makes sense because it is it is somehow timing related on mine. Get this, if there is a cd in the odd then the computer will find and boot from usb3 device. No cd in drive the computer will not find the usb3 device! Or maybe having to read the cd causes some other benefit. Not a Slacko problem of course.
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musher0

Joined: 04 Jan 2009
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Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada

PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 16:15    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
musher0 wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:
go on and keep harping on petty quirks that need fixing. upload those bad boys code fixes to wolfce and let the rest of us cboose to include them. One great benefit of open woofce is some of this tiny pet peeves can finally be fixed. Mine are the multisession bug AND mouse freeze on non racy or wary builds.
do not let the rising dictators of the code base force you into silence. Im fighting this mindset from the get-go. And be rude, they are! how dare they force their will on a open source project!!!
Twisted Evil


Hello, TedDog.

English is not my mother-tongue. I'm relatively at ease with "official"
English, but I easily get lost in "colloquial" English. So I'm not sure who
you are mocking: me, perhaps? Shocked Smile

I'll only add that, rare as it may appear to be, failure to create the 2nd
most important file in a Puppy system is hardly a "tiny problem" for the
user. It prevents him/her to use that Puppy in any meaningful way.

Best regards.

musher0


Musher sorry english is not my native tougue either And Im not sure what is my mother tougue. I was raised in Berlin by American parents, for my own protection raised by german nanny/body guard, my family was trailed by East German spys ( one of which tried to defect to my dad ) went to school with other kids with high profile parents my best friend was the french diplomats son. My parents spoke many languages at home and at state dinners and school was the same English, Spanish, German ( most common) and French. I was taught official English by British specialists of standard English. And if I was not returned from being kidnapped by the East German Spys I'd be posting this in Russian!


Hi, TedDog.

Certainly, a movie was made ?! Wink

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musher0

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 16:22    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
Musher0 I was supporting you. I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.


Hello, Ted Dog.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the precision.

So then, we have to gather all theses fixes and publish a (e)book! Smile

It will sell many copies, we'll be asked to talk on talk shows, royalties will be enormous... Wink Wink

BFN.

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Jades

Joined: 07 Aug 2010
Posts: 461
Location: Somewhere in Blighty.

PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 16:38    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
On the lighter side: I found out this morning that the warning about putting a pupsave on an ntfs disk should be taken seriously Embarassed


Anything specific I should keep an eye out for? Most of the pupsaves on our Pentium D are stored on the NTFS-formatted hard drive that the XP install is on. I'll error check and defrag before creating a save.

Edit: fixed typo.

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6734
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 16:54    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install. Looking good. Needed to use nouveau.noaccel=1.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
1331 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.154 FPS
1486 frames in 5.0 seconds = 297.060 FPS
1655 frames in 5.0 seconds = 330.980 FPS
1683 frames in 5.0 seconds = 336.590 FPS
1681 frames in 5.0 seconds = 336.112 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3887MB (196MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.3
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 30 Nov 2013 03:05:32 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3887800       765088      3122712            0        65356
-/+ buffers:             699732      3188068
Swap:      6211580            0      6211580
#
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 17:08    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.

musher0 wrote:
we have to gather all theses fixes and publish a (e)book!


Do not curse the darkens. Light a candle.
Provide a patch.
That what "community edition" means.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 19:06    Post subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
Ratpoison is awesome - make sure you patch it, so ^T-q works.

IMHO, a Slacko Ratpoison remix for power users could be nice Idea


I applied your patch (found out how to do it by doing a google search) and I think that I did it correctly.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 20:00    Post subject:  

On the lighter side: I found out this morning that the warning about putting a pupsave on an ntfs disk should be taken seriously Embarassed


Anything specific I should keep an eye out for?

Jades, The boot just went all to heck trying to read the pupsave. I thought it was "light" because I have always seen the warning but almost always stored on a linux partition. If you have had no problems then I would assume the culprit is the SSD drive that I am using--they have weird voodoo electronics inside (I understand), which make it inadvisable according to what I read to defrag them. But dang are they fast.
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Deacon


Joined: 19 Mar 2013
Posts: 191
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 22:11    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:
I have problems that have been solved by me for my setups that never made it into offical puppy as fixes.

musher0 wrote:
we have to gather all theses fixes and publish a (e)book!


Do not curse the darkens. Light a candle.
Provide a patch.
That what "community edition" means.


I thought the community edition was going to be either Precise or an entire redo? I just figured this was the next version of Slacko.

I can't get my VB to do it, so I am going to have to break down and buy another flash drive.
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