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#31 Post by Moose On The Loose »

RSH wrote:
I think I may have an even smarter smarter idea
That's how things usually do evolve. :lol:
Instead why not mount the SFS via a loopback use the ldconfig and then dismount. It never needs to be pulled into the normal file system just to run it once at start up.
That's just where the expert is split from the newbie. :wink:

A hint, though: what about a temp file to be created after it has been executed once (to avoid re-running/-loading when just X is restarted for another reason)?
I could put it in init.d so it only happens on boot. To make it only happen if really needed seems a bit harder. The user may add the SFS to the boot list, remove it and then add it again. If ldconfig was run with it unplugged, it needs to run again with it plugged in.

Perhaps I can just live with it happening more than needed. Putting it in Startup is nice because I can ask permission which I always want to do in such a case.

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if ! ( ldconfig -p | grep -q THENAME ) ; then
  do the stuff
else
  don't do the stuff
  fi
Looks like a way to avoid unneeded actual runs of ldconfig. I think that goes into the script in any case.

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trackpad click won't die!

#32 Post by simon1482 »

Hi,
Long-term Puppy user here (puppeee 4.1, then Lucid 528 which has worked like a charm for the past few years) popping back in now that I've got a new laptop and trying to get the latest Lucid tuned to my taste. Sorry if this isn't the right place for my troubleshooting, let me know if it should be somewhere else.

The problem is, despite TouchPad Tapping being disabled in Setup > Mouse/Keyboard > Choose Type of Mouse, the trackpad is still acting as the primary mouse button. (By the way, it's installed on a Lenovo X130e which has a synaptic trackpad. Clicking when I press hard enough to click the physical button under the trackpad is fine, but the "soft clicking" of the trackpad when I'm trying to move the mouse is driving me insane!)

The synaptic device is showing up:

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grep Synaptics /proc/bus/input/devices: 
Name="PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
But when I tried

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synclient TapButton1=0
It brought up the message "Restart X-server to control from synclient". Restarting didn't help.

Another observations is that synaptics appears to be working, because right-clicking on the trackpad (which only has one physical button) works fine.

Can someone please help work out how to disable my trackpad clicking?

Thanks,
Simon

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#33 Post by Atle »

Some small issues with LupuLibre latest on a Asus U36SD

PDFViewer fails to start. Kust shows a "blink" of the PDF and then gone

Video will not play on Mplayer. Just says "stopped"

Gnome alsamixer and alsamixer does not work. Usually works on other Lucid out of box on same PC.

Its not bugs but some issues that normal users might disagree with.

1) Default package manager GUI is set to "Classic", while "Ziggy" is cleary the best as for new users.

2) It looks like many of the downloads STILL points to slow slow ibiblio, while the other mirrors are rocket fast.

Just some fast input.

Best

atle

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#34 Post by wboz »

playdayz wrote:You want the new browsers, try the Puppy I mentioned that is just beginning 5.7 development--and have your own input into how it works for you--that's much of the fun.
Thanks, your posts help clear things up. Well Puppy 5.2.8 is working great for me, and honestly Chromium is running just fine ... so I do not feel any need for change :)

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#35 Post by rerwin »

Atle wrote:Some small issues with LupuLibre latest on a Asus U36SD

PDFViewer fails to start. Just shows a "blink" of the PDF and then gone

Video will not play on Mplayer. Just says "stopped"

Gnome alsamixer and alsamixer does not work. Usually works on other Lucid out of box on same PC.
Thanks for your report. To give us a starting point, could you try running all 3 of these (one at a time) and then run pdiag to get a diagnostic file. Either post it or PM it to me.

The PDF viewer works on my P4 system, so I need to see if something prevents it for you. For mplayer and the alsamixers, we need help from someone knowledgeable in those areas. I, too, have seen similar mplayer behavior but do not know what to do about it.
Richard

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Re: trackpad click won't die!

#36 Post by greengeek »

simon1482 wrote:Another observations is that synaptics appears to be working, because right-clicking on the trackpad (which only has one physical button) works fine.
Can someone please help work out how to disable my trackpad clicking?
Thanks, Simon
The fact that it has only a single button makes me wonder if it is the same sort of 'clickpad' that npierce referred to in this thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 9&start=30
if so it might be worth PMing npierce to see if he may be able to offer some suggestions.

If you look in /root and click the eye icon at the top to display hidden files do you see a /.flsynclient file?

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#37 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've been giving LupuLibre a try recently and it's been working well. I'm particularly impressed with the fact that Fluxbox autoconfigures its menu when it starts up and lists all the applications I've installed as well as the ones already supplied with LupuLibre (some much more prominent distros should take note).
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#38 Post by nooby »

To Playdays and other users. Whenyou guys mention things like this
it does bug me that current browser choice is limited.
I use Firefox 25.0.1 are there later browser than that?

Sorry if I come through as stupid as I secretly appear to be :)

Chrome I would use a SFS what else exist that works better on Slacko
than on old trusty 528-005 or 5.2.8.6?

Not that I have anything against Slacko
I have it installed but only use it for the program MakeHuman.

In case this is way too far from base just smile and skip responding.

I trust I will use old 528 until it fail
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#39 Post by Moose On The Loose »

nooby wrote: Chrome I would use a SFS what else exist that works better on Slacko
than on old trusty 528-005 or 5.2.8.6?
Over in another thread, we have beat to death the issue of an added SFS not replacing an existing file. This means that an SFS from Chrome would have to use a script or other method to change the /usr/local/deaultbrowser to make it work for you.

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#40 Post by nooby »

Moose On The Loose thanks for explanation.
oh okay.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#41 Post by Roy »

Using lupuplus-5.2.8.6-20131120, I'm having trouble with Pdvdrsab authoring a shrank.vob file. I select the file, select "author", and a screen momentarily blinks onto the screen before immediately disappearing.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong... too small of a save file? The 3Gb file is on a separate partition with 100Gb of free space.
OscarTalks also has two versions of Skype 4.2.0.11 for Lucid If a few could test I could put it in the repo.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 40&t=86808
These two Skype builds work great with lupuplus!

-Roy

Edit: It appears that I need to manually re-run/reset the DHCP in Dougal's network wizard at each bootup. All of the information to connect is retained, but it does not automatically connect to wireless without personal action.

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#42 Post by rerwin »

Roy wrote:Using lupuplus-5.2.8.6-20131120, I'm having trouble with Pdvdrsab authoring a shrank.vob file. I select the file, select "author", and a screen momentarily blinks onto the screen before immediately disappearing.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong... too small of a save file? The 3Gb file is on a separate partition with 100Gb of free space.
. . .
Edit: It appears that I need to manually re-run/reset the DHCP in Dougal's network wizard at each bootup. All of the information to connect is retained, but it does not automatically connect to wireless without personal action.
For both of these issues, could you obtain a pdiag file so we can see what is happening? When you boot up, do not attempt to connect until after you get the pdiag file (if at all). Before you get the file, try Pdvdrsab, then get the file. Just enter 'pdiag' without the ticks and attach the pdiag...tar.gz file it creates in the /root directory, to a posting here. That way, we can check for error messages and any Pdvdrsab "specialist" might find it useful.

Thanks for reporting your experience.
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#43 Post by playdayz »

OscarTalks also has two versions of Skype 4.2.0.11 for Lucid If a few could test I could put it in the repo.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 40&t=86808

Roy, believe it or not just today I was thinking of asking for a couple of testers since I don't skype. Anyone else? With a couple of tests I can put it in the repo. Thanks.
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#44 Post by mikeb »

I don't use skype now but some recent posts from users have shown that there may be a need to change to version 4 to handle a protocol or server change that affects video which is annoying as the version 2 I had from lucid worked well but sometimes we have to bend with the wind.

mike

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#45 Post by Roy »

Here is the pdiag from lupu-5.2.8.6-20131120, dealing with the manual reset of DHCP at every boot.

The computer with lupuplus and the shrank.vob file is not available until next week sometime.

-Roy

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#46 Post by RetroTechGuy »

wboz wrote:RE the comment that Lucid is one of the most popular versions - why is this?
It's popular because it ROCKS!...

And did I recently mention that playdayz ROCKS!!??... :D

Seriously, thank you to all of our great Devs!...

My observation is that Lucid is lighter hardware load than 4.31/4.32. It also has better stability, and better hardware support -- I don't think that I've run across anything "newer" that it didn't work on. **Newer being machines from the last decade -- my newest desktop is from 2005 (though I did recently buy a "new" Win7 laptop). 5.28 also runs fine on my older desktop. And 5.25 Retro runs on my really old 333 MHz PII laptop (though I recently rolled it back to 4.12 Retro -- the newer versions are just a bit "heavy" for it, once you open a browser).

Looking at my user "pile" (machines which are actively used), all 5 are running 5.28 (all dual boot - 1 with Win98--my main desktop, 3 XP, 1 Win7). My old 333MHz test bed is Win98/4.12 Retro/5.25 Retro. And I almost exclusively use 5.28 it on my Win7 machine (running on a SD card in the side) -- just don't think it's a good idea to give Windows too much access to the internet...

I was given an old "junk" laptop that I'm thinking about putting into service. No HDD (and they tossed the adapter/carrier for the HDD), and it has some keys missing, but it's fairly fast and has 1GB RAM... Maybe I'll swap it in for this tower I'm running -- probably use less power... But then I won't have access to my 5.25" floppy drive... ;-) :lol: :lol: :lol: (hey, I am a retro tech guy!... I recently started going through my old disks, dumping them on a HDD - still got a couple shoe boxes of 5.25" to go through...)
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#47 Post by nooby »

What if people are like me? :)

Nope that is not the answer
I am a rather odd user of Puppy.

But it is a known fact that

"If it aint broken why fix it"
so people that got Lucid/Lupu
working for them feel no need
to test another one like Slacko
or FatDog unless Lupu fail to boot
on a UEFI machine and FatDog actually
give instruction on how to boot their OS
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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Re: Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.6!

#48 Post by Moose On The Loose »

rerwin wrote:The popular Lucid Puppy has been upgraded with its major components brought up to date.
I just tested it on an Asus-701 and all appears to work including the somewhat mysterious wireless network of the 701. I was able to google just fine with it.

Next comes loading it up with my favorite programs.

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#49 Post by bigpup »

rerwin,

The links in the first post need to be updated to reflect the latest version download.
Example:
Lupu is now 20131215 not 20131120

Could use a little more information about the different versions of Lupusuper.
Like what is 1, 2, and 3?

Thanks again, for all the work you have done to update Lucid!!!!
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#50 Post by majorfoo »

just curious - lupu3hd I downloaded on 11/24/13 was 169mb according to my notes. copy d/l today dated 12/17/13 is only 148 mb. Did size change that much or did I write down wrong size on earlier version?

Thanks

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