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OVPrecise 5.8 Final + Retro
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 02:14    Post subject:  

Continued from previous post......

Anyway, this is not the box with the retro install and not the one at the top of the page with the same error message.....surely doesn't like XP partitions. Smile

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: OVPrecise Puppy, version 5.8

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev a4)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
352 frames in 5.0 seconds = 70.320 FPS
557 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.377 FPS
561 frames in 5.0 seconds = 112.123 FPS
549 frames in 5.0 seconds = 109.543 FPS
539 frames in 5.0 seconds = 107.616 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
Memory : 2073MB (211MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : OVPrecise Puppy - 5.8
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 29 Nov 2013 12:26:30 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8237 - VIA 8251

Other than the error message things look good.
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 02:46    Post subject:  

Since something similar occurred in Barry K's Precise builds the possible fix is here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=716497#716497

Quote:
Pick a Puppy where NTFS mounting works and copy its ntfs-3g components into Precise.

For example, I went into Wary 5.3 and got the files /bin/ntfs-3g, /lib/libntfs-3g.so.79 and /lib/libntfs-3g.so.79.0.0.

I dropped these into Precise and mounted an NTFS partition. It worked.
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 16:45    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Since something similar occurred in Barry K's Precise builds the possible fix is here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=716497#716497

Quote:
Pick a Puppy where NTFS mounting works and copy its ntfs-3g components into Precise.

For example, I went into Wary 5.3 and got the files /bin/ntfs-3g, /lib/libntfs-3g.so.79 and /lib/libntfs-3g.so.79.0.0.

I dropped these into Precise and mounted an NTFS partition. It worked.


Have you tried precise 5.5 and see if the it works and if so let me know and I will upload those files for everyone who would like to do this. I only run Puppy on the two computers in my house.

@Billtoo the kernel source sfs files should be at Barryk's site where he as the others.

Cheers
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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 16:50    Post subject:  

Hi oldyeller

The change in kernel to 3.8.4 for ovprecise5.8retro has resulted in the wl.ko Broadcom driver to go missing.....

My memory says that BK's original target for Precise5.7.1retro with k3.2.48 was as a wary replacement with support for as much legacy hardware as possible - with your change to k3.8.4 does your retro still meet the same goals??

Cheers
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 17:15    Post subject:  

oldyeller wrote:

Have you tried precise 5.5 and see if the it works and if so let me know and I will upload those files for everyone who would like to do this. I only run Puppy on the two computers in my house.


I'll try to find time to check into this over the weekend.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 17:44    Post subject:  

oldyeller wrote:

@Billtoo the kernel source sfs files should be at Barryk's site where he as the others.
Cheers


Hi,
The kernel source that should match OV58 with the pae kernel is there
but when I tried to compile the proprietary ati driver it failed, the
log showed an error about header something or other, I don't have the
log file anymore.

There is no kernel source sfs for 384 at Barry's site.

I decided to try Barry's 5.7 retro so I did a manual frugal install of
that and the proprietary driver compiled fine:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 29 Nov 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.7 Linux 3.2.48 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context

AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Core 0: @1700 MHz

Precise retro runs a little cooler on this netbook when the
proprietary driver is installed, about 3-4 degrees hotter without it.

I used the adrive.sfs that I made in 5730 and it works fine Barry's
retro version.

Thanks.
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 19:19    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Hi oldyeller

The change in kernel to 3.8.4 for ovprecise5.8retro has resulted in the wl.ko Broadcom driver to go missing.....

My memory says that BK's original target for Precise5.7.1retro with k3.2.48 was as a wary replacement with support for as much legacy hardware as possible - with your change to k3.8.4 does your retro still meet the same goals??

Cheers
peebee


I am not sure what drivers are support in this kernel. How would one check on this and to add or enable drivers would the kernel need to be recomplied? A lot of this is new to me the kernel that is.

@James C thanks.

@Billtoo; not sure where the kernel sources are than for the 384 kernel. This kernel was already complied and downloaded with woof. The driver that you compiled still might work in OVPrecise-retro though.

One day I will have to the that kernel build kit that mick uses.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 11:35    Post subject:  

Hello Everyone,

I have built the retro with the 3.2.48 kernel so this should be close to what Barryk did. So I will be removing the old devx and the iso. So don't download anything for the OVPrecise-retro for about 4hrs or until posted.

Cheers
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 14:19    Post subject:  

Hello Everyone,

I have just got done uploading the OVPrecise with the kernel that Barryk used for his this iso is 209mb. This should work for what he was supporting for hardware again I hope Very Happy Very Happy

Get from first post

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 15:50    Post subject: OVPrecise 5.8 Final + Retro  

Manual frugal install to a 32gb MicroSD card, computer is an AAO 721-3801 netbook.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 30 Nov 2013 on OVPrecise-retro Puppy 5.8 Linux 3.2.48 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context

AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Core 0: @1695 MHz

# glxgears
8770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1753.089 FPS
8831 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1766.189 FPS
8950 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1789.948 FPS
#
Memory 1812MB (166MB used)
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)

The proprietary ati driver compiled fine this time.

No problems at all so far.

Thanks for this version of OVPrecise-retro.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 16:56    Post subject:  

Billtoo, Your welcome Very Happy Very Happy

Enjoy
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session


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 17:55    Post subject:  

oldyeller wrote:
I have built the retro with the 3.2.48 kernel so this should be close to what Barryk did...

A retro kernel is much appreciated; 3.2.48 is relatively new and supports lots of old hardware, I wish more puplets were built with it.

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Secondary - Pentium 3 533MHz, 385MB RAM, Matrox MGA-G200 AGP. Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro frugal install. (IDE HD is 428 MB!)

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Dec 2013, 01:49    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
oldyeller wrote:

Have you tried precise 5.5 and see if the it works and if so let me know and I will upload those files for everyone who would like to do this. I only run Puppy on the two computers in my house.


I'll try to find time to check into this over the weekend.


Success.

Took /bin/ntfs.3g , /lib/libntfs-3g.so , /lib/libntfs-3g.so.79 and /lib/libntfs-3g.so.79.0.0 from Wary 5.5 to replace the files in the puppy_ovprecise_5.8.sfs.

Tested on three boxes with XP NTFS partitions.....no error messages and no problems mounting the partitions.

I unsquashed the puppy_ovprecise_5.8.sfs. , replaced things and resquashed.... working well here.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 01 Dec 2013, 02:32    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of 5.8 Retro.....all good so far.
No NTFS partitions on this computer anyway. Laughing

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: OVPrecise-retro Puppy, version 5.8

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
132 frames in 5.0 seconds = 26.398 FPS
136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.083 FPS
133 frames in 5.0 seconds = 26.573 FPS
143 frames in 5.0 seconds = 28.553 FPS
138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.555 FPS
132 frames in 5.0 seconds = 26.326 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (232MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : OVPrecise-retro Puppy - 5.8
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 01 Dec 2013 12:45:07 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.2.48 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Thu Jul 11 12:20:55 GMT-8 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : OVPrecise-retro Puppy - 5.8

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1034080       953712        80368            0        90452
-/+ buffers:             863260       170820
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
#
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Dec 2013, 05:42    Post subject:  

Hello, oldyeller,


Maybe that is written somewhere, but I can not find what it means to ovprecise?
The same kernel (3.9.11) as upupPrecise. (PAE-version)
What are the major differences? Everything works fine for me.
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