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Mplayer 1.0pre8 and Codecs in general
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MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun 2006, 11:05    Post subject:  Mplayer 1.0pre8 and Codecs in general  

If you have problems playing videos, download a "Codecpack".
There are 2 flavours.

One is 24 MB extracted, it includes the "essential" Codecs from http://mplayerhq.com
These should be sufficient in most cases.
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MPlayer-1.0.8/Codecpack02-mini.pup

In case, you still get errors about missing codecs, install this one, it is 42 MB extracted.
It includes the first one, plus several codecs that were posted here in the last year.
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MPlayer-1.0.8/Codecpack02.pup

But maybe your problems in playing videos have other reasons.
In this case try this mediaplayer called "mplayer":
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MPlayer-1.0.8/mplayer108.pup (5 MB)
(if you want to keep an old one, backup /usr/local/bin/mplayer first)

In the options, you can choose among several video-drivers, that might dramatically improve the playback.
It also has some very fast inbuilt codecs, and so even might work in cases, where GXine fails even with all codecs installed.

Note, there is another fine alternative to Gxine, "xine-ui":
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=5701

The MPlayer also includes a "plugin" for the Mozilla-Webbrowser (version 3.25).
It allows to watch videos embedded in the browser instead of a seperate window.
That looks like this:


The Mplayer should contain all required libraries. They do not overwrite existing ones, they just will be used, if you don't have them yet (libGL, libesd, libmp3lame).

It compiled without problems in Puppy 108.
It works fine for me in Puppy 108 with X.org and Xvesa, in Puppy2 I tried it with X.org.
It also includes the old skins to get a nice view, see the picture here:






If I get no serious error-reports, I'll remove all older packages soon.

If you need to convert videos, use mencoder:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MPlayer-1.0.8/mencoder-108.pup (2.8 MB).
It is a comandlineprogram.
Documentation (international):
http://mplayerhq.com/

A last note about performance:
In the mplayer-options, you can choose "dri" as accelleration-method.
This only will work in X.org, if you have DRI-drivers installed.
I made a wizard to simplify the installation of these drivers:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=8661

Mark
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Artie


Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: Norway

PostPosted: Thu 29 Jun 2006, 08:24    Post subject:  

Thanks for the info Mark really appreciate it! Smile
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vientito

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Oct 2006, 10:19    Post subject:  

really appreciated your latest mplayer version

have two issues:

(1) version 1.0pre7 dotpup seems to offer 2 versions ... for xorg and for vesa but this one seems to have only x11 under xvesa mode but could not play under linux console under vesa mode. is it possible to emulate past practice of having a vesa version?

(2) my UTF-8 filename titles seem to come out correctly in this latest version as compared to pre7. what has been changed?
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sunburnt


Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Location: Arizona, U.S.A.

PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 02:36    Post subject:  

Mark; does Mplayer scale the movie to the screen size?
I got the one from the DotPup DnLder, if this new one solves the problem let me know.

I can't find a way to do this, all other movie players I've seen do it.
Other than this, I initally like Mplayer better than Xine.
I'm using it in Xvesa & it looks good except for the small movie size.

I also need to find a skin that'll make the player a larger toolbar or panel, so it'll be easily viewable on a TV.
If you've ever seen the Win. "Zoom Player", it has just a control+progress bar.
No full size player GUI or video screen is needed, just a few controls on a bar.
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MU


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 03:37    Post subject:  

sunburnt, in the options you can chose among different video-output drivers.
Some support scaling in high quality.

You also might try this one, that supports a graficscard-dependent accelleration/scaling:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=9568

Mark
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sunburnt


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 04:58    Post subject:  

Tried the one at your link & the the new one above... missing libs.
Also tried the DotPup DnLder Mplayer for Xorg, it won't run.

The only one that works is the DotPup for Xvesa.
Maybe I didn't setup Xorg for the Radion 7500 card, but the desktop was okay.
I didn't uninstall any of them, couldn't find a way to do it, just installed over the top.

I'm shooting for a PuppyPlayer that can work on most PCs, "AS IS" with no setup.

Is Xvesa not capable of scaling the movie image? (I know Xorg is better at it)
It's just that Xvesa works without fiddling with drivers, etc.
I'm intending on using cheap TV out video bds. ($10-$15 each), so they may not help much with scaling etc.

I looked at Mplayer prefs > video & there's only 2 list items, the other one gives black screen, no movie.
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MU


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 06:09    Post subject:  

xvesa supports no hardware-acceleration.
You might be able to use acceleration with the xvesa framebuffer device, but this is more difficult to set up than X.org, and only available for very few cards like some with SIS chips.

In general, if you need a easy way to set up accelleration, you depend on x.org.

Mark

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GuestToo
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 07:05    Post subject:  

with a vesa driver, scaling is done by the cpu ... if you have a slow cpu, this will not work well

to enable software scaling by the cpu, use the zoom option

for example, mplayer -zoom movie.avi

or you can put zoom=yes in /root/.mplayer/config
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tempestuous

Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 10:54    Post subject:  

I agree totally with the information just supplied by MU and GuestToo.
When Barry added Xorg to Puppy from version 1.0.7 I assumed most people realised the performace/quality advantages this offered.
The MPlayer-1.0p8-xvmc.pup package I contributed is configured for "xv" video output, which is optimal under Xorg.

sunburnt wrote:
Tried the one at your link & the the new one above... missing libs.

Now that I see many people are still using Xvesa, I will need to amend my README, and forum announcement:
MPlayer-1.0p8-xvmc.pup works fine under Xvesa ... after the video output setup is changed from "xv" to "x11".
Of course, Xorg + xv remains a superior option.

I did not compile vesa support in my version (not to be confused with Xvesa). Now that vientito has mentioned that it's useful, I will add this video out driver next time I update the package ... probably in a month or two.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2006, 16:15    Post subject:  

When your right... your right!
I got scaling working with GuestToo's "zoom=yes" & I was rather surprised.
Xvesa got near peak cpu usage on a 2.4ghz Semperon with the zoom, at least 2 times as with no zoom!

Accordingly I'll be looking at an Xorg setup for PuppyPlayer.

Q; Will Xorg improve the picture any? Xvesa isn't bad, but maybe a tad blurry.
Q; How to auto hide JWM's task bar when the movie starts?

Again, I'm wanting a small & simple as possable Puppy distro.
Please comment/correct this setup I'm thinking of:

Puppy1 (should be just fine for a media player, or does Puppy2 have advantages?)
Mplayer for video (web sites for skins & addons?)
Xmms for audio (web sites for skins & visualizations?)
MU's 3D wizard for Xorg setup (anything else?)
MU's big codec pack (or is most of it not common codecs?)

Anything I've forgotten that's needed, or will make for a better distro?
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