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greengeek


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jul 2016, 15:11    Post subject:  

I do find it difficult to interpret Pelos recent comments though - is there still a bug in Vinnie? Something to do with PPM? I can't tell if it is a bug that used to be in Vinnie but has now been resolved, or if it was a bug with the location of Ubuntu repos, or if it is a bug that still remains to be fixed???

Or is it a bug that users fix by themselves by changing something in their savefiles?

If there is a PPM bug within the Vinnie main sfs itself i would be keen to get it resolved so that it works perfectly ootb. It's too good a puppy to have any issue that distracts or adversely affects new users.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jul 2016, 16:31    Post subject:  

Probably the PPM updater needs to be run. I have to do that with Tahr these days...
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jul 2016, 18:19    Post subject:  

@greengeek:
I have no problem whatsoever with Vinnie. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jul 2016, 19:51    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
I do find it difficult to interpret Pelos recent comments though - is there still a bug in Vinnie? Something to do with PPM? I can't tell if it is a bug that used to be in Vinnie but has now been resolved, or if it was a bug with the location of Ubuntu repos, or if it is a bug that still remains to be fixed???


this is why you cant worry too much about bug reports that contain no specifics. you can certainly ask someone to clarify (the more informal the gathering, the wiser that is) but if theyre always listing bugs and never giving you the info you need... what are you supposed to do? be happy that most users do not know about (or feel a need to mention) those issues?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 00:30    Post subject: Van Pup has been repaired by Greengeek  

NO ! Van Pup has been repaired by Greengeek, my message was to get Puppy Builders doing the same with other upup puppies (hungarian are concerned)
VanPUP can be downloaded from greengeek links. Starhawk is updating its repository, he says.
So little bugs were easy to solve. That is done. VanPup is perfect (as far as explored at home). Lot of libraries are included, allowing many apps to run.
Painting for painters, but not only, quite all music programs can be run by Music lovers. An healthy Puppy does not need so many Linux technics as paparazzi ! He needs 'aficionados'

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For people having lot of office work to do at home, office suite can be used.. But is that the goal of an artistic Puppy ? In my opinion, no Exclamation

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 10:47    Post subject:  

I did not say I was updating any repos -- that is unchanged from Upup 3992. I do not have control over those -- which is quite fine with me.

I was suggesting that the update-package-sources script within the PPM might need to be run, by people using Van Pup (and, in turn, Upup 3992), for the PPM to be able to download packages. TahrPup 602, and Pups based on it, already need this done.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 13:22    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
TahrPup 602, and Pups based on it, already need this done.


sorry, but this sounds like it doesnt include tahrpup 605 (tahrpup 605 is already updated then?) would you confirm?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 14:14    Post subject:  

Don't know, haven't touched it. I'm waiting on phil to update it a little, though -- he said he would in a PM to me (which I've since unfortunately lost) -- the openchrome driver in there has support broken for certain VIA-branded chipsets, and I'm the guy who got that fixed. phil said he'd release a Tahr with the fix -- which I supplied him -- but I've yet to see it materialize.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 15:40    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
phil said he'd release a Tahr with the fix -- which I supplied


id like as much info on this fix as possible: by link, by pm, or by thread. im unfamiliar with this ppm business (i know that tahr or refracta has several programs in /usr/bin that start with ppm) though im very curious how your fix can be applied.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 16:34    Post subject:  

Applying the fix is somewhat tedious and somewhat boring. Read here, starting with the second post --> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107198

Affected VIA chipsets are anything vaguely similar to the VX800 series. This includes the VX855 and VX900 chipsets and may include the K8M800 and a few others. (I don't have a full list.) I'm the reason, by the way, that this particular mess got solved. It took something like six or more /months/ of troubleshooting and code writing -- Kevin Brace, the guy who was principally helping me (in his spare time, no less) wound up rewriting most of the driver, as I understand it. For the record, mine is a weird, weird system (Wyse C90LE, info) with the VIA VX855 chipset. There aren't many systems that use that chipset -- most tend to go with the CN700 chipset, which does not have this issue... I have a Neoware CA19 (another weird system) that uses the CN700 chipset -- it has a different issue, namely that the framebuffre driver freezes the system solid about a split second after it's called during TahrPup's boot process. I will NOT be pursuing that one, I've chased down enough driver problems for one life, thank you just the same...

If you actually want to read the bug comment-thread on openchrome's bugtracker site, it's here. Be warned that most trade-paperback novels are shorter -- and more entertaining.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 16:40    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
Applying the fix is somewhat tedious


so basically copy openchome.* from this archive: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9LIR165HfwzSHVRYUNLODhMUGs to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ ... there are other steps too, but they would require copying an updated xorg configuration? after the files are copied. if this is going to be automated, you would want that updated section of xorg config, but having the openchrome files would be a good start. question: are they open, or non-free?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 17:03    Post subject:  

The name "openchrome" should answer your question in and of itself Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 17:37    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
The name "openchrome" should answer your question in and of itself Wink


i dont put a lot of stock in "open*," especially when its connected to the word "chrome" (as in google or mozilla, both of whom made browsers that catered to drm or installed non-free software without reporting it to the user.) other than that, i agree (really i probably shouldve just looked it up.) * (even though this is exactly the word i used to ask the question.) historically, too many "open" drivers are wrappers that include non-free something or other. im not saying this as a purist-- but to explain an otherwise silly question.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jul 2016, 05:58    Post subject: Editing photo with Lazapint  

Vincent Van Pup 3992 is the only Puppy where i succeed to ... play Decibel. audio Player
Vanpup is for painting.. Lazpaint installed, a lot of fun with this application (Laz Means Lazarus)
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2016, 05:37    Post subject: Parole 0.5.0  

Parole 0.5.0 installed from PPM raring successfully.
Now Vanpup is serviceable, nobody would need artist Workshop Exclamation
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