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jlst

#736 Post by jlst »

Well, you must believe me...

When pu*** reaches the desktop I can see there is something going on with the taskbar. Something strange.

Must be my machine then...

In fact I know how this works, so I can modify , delete, replace files

You could also add some keybindins in the openbox config file /root/.config/openbox/rc.xml | lxde-rc.xml

In the <keyboard> tag, I added some keybindings you might find interesting..

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  <!-- Keybindings for running applications -->
  <keybind key="W-e">
    <action name="Execute">
      <startupnotify>
        <enabled>true</enabled>
        <name>PCManFM</name>
      </startupnotify>
      <command>pcmanfm</command>
    </action>
  </keybind>

  <!--keybindings for LXPanel -->
  <keybind key="W-r">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>gmrun</command> <!-- lxpanelctl run -->
      </action>
  </keybind>

  <keybind key="A-F2">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>gmrun</command> <!-- lxpanelctl run -->
      </action>
  </keybind>

  <keybind key="C-Escape">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
  
  <keybind key="C-Super_L">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
    
  <keybind key="F11">
     <action name="ToggleFullscreen"/>
  </keybind>

  <!-- Launch Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Del -->
  <keybind key="A-C-Delete">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>lxtask</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
  
  <!-- jlst -->

  <keybind key="W-y">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>youtubedl</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>  

  <keybind key="W-p">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>youtubedl -mpv</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>  
  
  <keybind key="W-m">
    <action name="ToggleShowDesktop"/>
  </keybind>  

  <keybind key="W-u">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>downloader</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>  

  <keybind key="W-f">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>pfind</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>  
  
  <keybind key="A-F3">
      <action name="Iconify">
          <command>downloader</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
  
  <!--
  <keybind key="Super_L">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
  -->

  <keybind key="Super_R">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
  
  <keybind key="Print">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>screeny</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>
  <keybind key="0x6F">
      <action name="Execute">
          <command>screeny</command>
      </action>
  </keybind>  
  <!-- jlst -->

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#737 Post by peebee »

jlst wrote:In fact I know how this works, so I can modify , delete, replace files
What you may not know or realise is that LxPup uses lxpanelx whereas most lxde systems use lxpanel - they are different.....

The hidden .config files are related and deleting one of them will have unknown consequences. They are there to make lxpanelx appear like lxpanel to the rest of the lxde components.

I think it would be wise to start over with a clean system and check that that works correctly first.
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#738 Post by rcrsn51 »

The wl driver worked for me on an old laptop after I blacklisted b43 and ssb.

gcmartin

#739 Post by gcmartin »

After running for the better part of the day and using the system for a 2 hour conference call, all is well. Quick report:

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1535776      1027964       507812       356204       106932
-/+ buffers:             921032       614744
Swap:      1590268            0      1590268

# uname -a
Linux LxPup32-1511Laptop 4.2.5-EmSee-32-pae #1 SMP Mon Nov 2 10:21:44 GMT 2015 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2080  @ 1.73GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Image

gcmartin

#740 Post by gcmartin »

Running Live DVD pristine started yesterday with your latest ISO and still have not rebooted, thus far. Needed to find a file. Got this

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find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for `/proc/fs' (saw only st_nlink=11 but we already saw 9 subdirectories): this may be a bug in your file system driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
find: `/proc/15040/task/15040/net': Invalid argument
find: `/proc/15040/net': Invalid argument
# 
FYI

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#741 Post by peebee »

rcrsn51 wrote:The wl driver worked for me on an old laptop after I blacklisted b43 and ssb.
Thanks @rcrsn51
I'd blacklisted b43 but forgotten about ssb.
Works for me with both blacklisted:
wl: module license 'MIXED/Proprietary' taints kernel.
Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
wlan0: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 6.30.223.271 (r587334)
I remember that rerwin produced some changes way back that did these preferences automatically - perhaps I should see if I can find them and add them to the activate Broadcom utility? or is that dangerous?
They used to be built in to puppies but maybe they've dropped out of the new woof-ce puppies.....

Cheers
peebee

p.s. stemsee has released a 4.3 kernel with the mt7601u driver built into the kernel - still needs firmware added to work however....
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#742 Post by rcrsn51 »

IIRC, you can change the driver source code so it is reported as an "open source" driver. Then the "tainted" stuff disappears. But that would be cheating.

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#743 Post by peebee »

rcrsn51 wrote:IIRC, you can change the driver source code so it is reported as an "open source" driver. Then the "tainted" stuff disappears. But that would be cheating.
It would!! Would probably have 01micko and iguleder fuming!!

/etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG does have:
PREFLIST=' ssb:wl bcma:wl ssb:bcma wl:ipw2100:ipw2200:iwlwifi b43:wl '

in it - so the wl driver should be used in preference to both ssb and b43 - wonder why it isn't?? It used to work in older puppies....
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#744 Post by rcrsn51 »

Maybe because this version of wl has no specific aliases, so it can never be matched against a conflicting module like ssb.

There is so much legacy cruft in the PREFLIST that you have to wonder if it still does anything useful.

The same could be said for old code like rc.network. PWF replaces the 685-line version with 32 lines.

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compiz

#745 Post by wrayc »

trying to install compiz

used the steps outlined on the compiz pup forum of adding the 2 sfs files... helper then compiz.

compiz settings show up but no effects

thanks

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Re: compiz

#746 Post by peebee »

wrayc wrote:trying to install compiz

used the steps outlined on the compiz pup forum of adding the 2 sfs files... helper then compiz.

compiz settings show up but no effects

thanks
Haven't updated that for some time - no plans to do so ATM I'm afraid - sorry.

http://lx-pup.weebly.com/archive---no-l ... ained.html

Only applies to Slacko flavour of LxPup - last tested compatible LxPup was LxPup-14.10 (I think).

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/LxPup14.10

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Re: compiz

#747 Post by wrayc »

Peebee wrote:
Haven't updated that for some time - no plans to do so ATM I'm afraid - sorry.

http://lx-pup.weebly.com/archive---no-l ... ained.html

Only applies to Slacko flavour of LxPup - last tested compatible LxPup was LxPup-14.10 (I think).

http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/LxPup14.10

Cheers
Peebee.
Yes I recall you saying on the compiz pup forums. I should have mentioned yes that I was attempting to install compiz on slacko lxpup 15.11. I tried 15.05 tahrpup which comes with compiz offered (via pets) but on one computer lxpanel doesn't restart after and my other pc won't even allow me to install compiz on tahrpup pup 15.05 although it runs compiz pup 14.10 perfectly.

Go figure.

I can stick with Compiz pup 14.10

Thanks

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Bludetooth

#748 Post by Wauuu »

IIt is a good distro but would prefer to have another package wifi instead of puppy app
i run "get_bluetooth_connexion": it doesnt work.
I install bluedevil, blueman . :cry:
I have no problem porteus. My driver is b43.
Is there any way to load sequentially and porteus sfs? Because to customize with add-ons firefox and HTML home page I had to use mksquashfs? :?:

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Re: Bludetooth

#749 Post by peebee »

Wauuu wrote:IIt is a good distro but would prefer to have another package wifi instead of puppy app
i run "get_bluetooth_connexion": it doesnt work.
I install bluedevil, blueman . :cry:
I have no problem porteus. My driver is b43.
Is there any way to load sequentially and porteus sfs? Because to customize with add-ons firefox and HTML home page I had to use mksquashfs? :?:
Hi
Maybe it would be better to stick with Porteus if you like it better?? It's a fine distribution.
Trying to make Puppy behave like Porteus doesn't seem to be a very worthwhile activity?
Is there a reason you want to move from Porteus to Puppy? Is it because Porteus has moved from LXDE to LXQT?
You can load Porteus modules by renaming them to .sfs - but you're on your own if you choose to modify Puppy in this way I'm afraid.
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Bluetooth

#750 Post by Wauuu »

.bs = .Sfs = .xz
But are ther any other .pet or Bluetooth .sfs?
sorry for the courtesy. Hello everyone. I'm involved with go

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LxPup Precise 15.09.1 can't open a browser if you use spot.

#751 Post by noalternative »

Not sure why. All I know is it won't and when I try it through the terminal it gives me a spot related error.

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Re: LxPup Precise 15.09.1 can't open a browser if you use spot.

#752 Post by peebee »

noalternative wrote:Not sure why. All I know is it won't and when I try it through the terminal it gives me a spot related error.
Suggest you run the browser (which is it?) in a terminal (type defaultbrowser) and capture the error messages - post them somewhere like:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 457#837457

There are warnings that the spot implementation in puppy is not well developed or tested.....I have no experience of it myself
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#753 Post by rufwoof »

Downloaded LxPupTahr 15.05.2 pae onto a old Celeron D 32 bit single core.
Extracted vmlinuz ....etc and changed grub4dos menu.lst
Booted frugally
Setup locale etc
Set global font size to 120
Changed gtk theme to Emacs as I find that to be the most responsive
Changed the wallpaper.
Added showing of drives on desktop
Set the trashcan to not being shown on desktop.
Rebooted creating savefolder
pfix=ram at next reboot and renamed zdrv to adrv, renamed puppy sfs to zdrv and made a puppy sfs of the savefolder content
rebooted pfix=ram (my preferred default i.e. no savefile) and all is running well/clean.
Now configured to how I like, read only core puppy (I store data etc outside of puppy space and prefer a stable/consistent read only puppy each and every time).

So far tried out chrome, libre 5, existing sfs's etc and all is running great.

I'm unfamiliar with the filemanager and openbox etc - but so far I really like what I'm seeing. So much so this could become my everyday primary pup.
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#754 Post by rufwoof »

Few hours later .... and its off to the virtual land-fill :(

Used PPM to 'install' Blender. After quite a wait that failed ... needed to update PPM.

Updated PPM ... again quite a long wait, hitting enter every now and then. Retried to install blender and ... apparently all installed ok (after another long wait) - except the desktop had lost its wallpaper and all of the tray icons were missing (shown but with a red x icon).

Restarted WM, still the same. Shutdown and restarted ... still the same.

So savefolder in effect trashed as well.

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#755 Post by peebee »

rufwoof wrote:Few hours later .... and its off to the virtual land-fill :(

Used PPM to 'install' Blender. After quite a wait that failed ... needed to update PPM.

Updated PPM ... again quite a long wait, hitting enter every now and then. Retried to install blender and ... apparently all installed ok (after another long wait) - except the desktop had lost its wallpaper and all of the tray icons were missing (shown but with a red x icon).

Restarted WM, still the same. Shutdown and restarted ... still the same.

So savefolder in effect trashed as well.
Which repository did you install from? How many missing dependencies were required to be installed? Does Blender expect a particular desktop environment?

Have you had Blender working previously on this hardware? On which version of Puppy?

Don't understand how your savefolder could be changed if you had converted it to a read-only sfs????

Can't really be of much help with this one - is there a Blender thread on the forum? This may be relevant and a better place to download from:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 834#850834

It is a fairly eye-watering 96MB pet !!!! I would have thought a prime candidate for an sfs rather than a pet.....

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