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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jan 2014, 17:45    Post subject:  

slenkar wrote:
I see 'preferred applications' but where is default applications like
default web browser


Setup -> Default Applications Chooser

???

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 08:41    Post subject:  

250114 pre-release version of LxPup14.01 available from:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/LxPup14.01/PreRelease/

user functionality and look and feel unchanged - some "under the hood" changes to components - e.g. LxPanelX updated from r606 to r694.

Delta from 180114 version also available.

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Location: SW Wisconsin

PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 14:20    Post subject: 180114 pre-release  

Downloaded and applied delta. Standard frugal install to iwlwifi laptop with intel i915 video. Pristine boot: No problems at all, iwlwifi wireless recognized and connection routine with wpa2 encryption. Sound, touchpad and video all good. The only patch I applied was to get correct lid suspend on this laptop from here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=73733.
Also booted using my savefile from the 050114 pre-release (mostly look and feel, my panel, icons, themes and links to my external browsers etc.). No issues at all that I see at there so far. None found in fairly routine use of the 050114 pre-lease for the past 2 weeks.

All in all, solid and quite snappy.

Thanks Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 15:55    Post subject: Re: 180114 pre-release  

Marv wrote:
Downloaded and applied delta. Standard frugal install to iwlwifi laptop with intel i915 video. Pristine boot: No problems at all, iwlwifi wireless recognized and connection routine with wpa2 encryption. Sound, touchpad and video all good. The only patch I applied was to get correct lid suspend on this laptop from here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=73733.
Also booted using my savefile from the 050114 pre-release (mostly look and feel, my panel, icons, themes and links to my external browsers etc.). No issues at all that I see at there so far. None found in fairly routine use of the 050114 pre-lease for the past 2 weeks.

All in all, solid and quite snappy.

Thanks Smile


Thanks Marv

Which thread does that pet come from?

Is it worth including the pet in the /opt/lxpup-xtras folder do you think?

Is there any detriment to including it in the build? or should it remain an option?

Any idea why it has never made it into woof / mainline puppies?

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 15:59    Post subject:  

No problems even on usual suspects. Just seems rather sluggish for a compact distro, especially compared to other Puppies. Would be nice if the v10 FP from the repo were pre-installed?
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 16:35    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
No problems even on usual suspects. Just seems rather sluggish for a compact distro, especially compared to other Puppies. Would be nice if the v10 FP from the repo were pre-installed?


Hi Sage

LxPup sits on top of / alongside to change the desktop environment and the file manager of the base Puppy it's based on - i.e. Slacko 5.6.5.2 atm - so all the applications come from Slacko....I don't plan to make any radical changes to the base.

It doesn't seem any more sluggish than Slacko on my computers...what aspect do you detect sluggishness in?

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 17:01    Post subject: Re: 180114 pre-release  

peebee wrote:

Thanks Marv

Which thread does that pet come from?

Is it worth including the pet in the /opt/lxpup-xtras folder do you think?

Is there any detriment to including it in the build? or should it remain an option?

Any idea why it has never made it into woof / mainline puppies?

Cheers
peebee


Hi peebee,

It's from the Slacko testing (for 5.7) thread, about 2/3rds of the way down this page: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90489&start=255
Laptops seem to vary widely wrt how they handle lid closure and I only have intel based core 2 duo or Pentium M fujitsu lifebooks to test on so really don't know if it has any wider applicability. Works fine on my stable. All it really does is screen out the lid open events so I don't get a second 'false suspend' on opening the lid. I haven't encountered a situation where it hurts and have used variants of it in a number of pups and in my hybrid alphaOS321, but it certainly isn't a cureall for the non-suspend blues.

Didn't post the link to the post because other than quoting and I'm averse to quoting myself, I've not found a neat way to link to a particular post, just to a page.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 17:40    Post subject: Re: 180114 pre-release  

Marv wrote:

Didn't post the link to the post because other than quoting and I'm averse to quoting myself, I've not found a neat way to link to a particular post, just to a page.


Confused The link to a post is the little file symbol to the left of the post title - just right click on it and copy the link..... Very Happy

e.g. this post is http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=752307#752307

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014, 18:08    Post subject: Re: 180114 pre-release  

peebee wrote:
Marv wrote:

Didn't post the link to the post because other than quoting and I'm averse to quoting myself, I've not found a neat way to link to a particular post, just to a page.


Confused The link to a post is the little file symbol to the left of the post title - just right click on it and copy the link..... Very Happy

e.g. this post is http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=752307#752307


THANKS Exclamation Only took me a decade.... and someone who knows Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 03:34    Post subject:  

Thanks for your response, pb. I would always admit that I don't make systematic analyses of distro and app speeds but have extensive experience of many releases over decades. In the case of LXP it doesn't seem to approach Slacko nor even X-Slacko 's smoothness and alacrity on boot-up, app opening and use. At the moment I am mainly testing on an XP2400 +/1.25Gb and SiS/3GHz/1.5Gb, alternating with an n-F3A and i2.99/~625Gb. Maybe Bill or James, our expert testers will come up with figures to show my subjective assessments ill-founded?
The continuing tragedy, in my opinion, is that X-Slacko lies languishing for lack of time/developers/interest when it offers the most promise of mainline Puppy forks. There are/have been gurus on this Forum capable of taking it another notch forward, but one has to respect that they, too, have regular lives, commitments, interests elsewhere.
Having said all that, LXP is a nice piece of work that runs competently for many punters.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 13:04    Post subject:  

Puzzled! The PPM is now reporting v10 FP not available in nluug nor ibiblio repos? It was there earlier. Maybe you've removed it and incorporated it into the base .iso?
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 13:52    Post subject: Re: 180114 pre-release  

peebee wrote:
Confused The link to a post is the little file symbol to the left of the post title - just right click on it and copy the link.....
And another big thanks from me too. What a time saver this gem of information will be. Much appreciated peebee!
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2014, 22:00    Post subject:  

Manual frugal install to hard drive, computer is a gateway desktop.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Mon 20 Jan 2014 on LxPup 14.01 Linux 3.10.21-4 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (602x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.38

I installed the proprietary nvidia driver.
Installed kdegames from ppm.
Kdegames includes qt-482 so I tried installed a Fotowall pet that I
made in Quirky 6.1 and it works.

My built-in wireless didn't work but my trusty linksys usb adapter
works fine with the network wizard.
Linksys WUSB54GC 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]
Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
Hardinfo doesn't work properly, clicking on it from the menu brings up
an empty window with another empty window inside that one.

This lxpup isn't working as well on this pc as x-slacko-1.1 pae which uses slacko
5.6 final, looking forward to lxpup with slacko 5.7 final.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jan 2014, 04:38    Post subject:  

I have found that there are 2 clipboard managers active in the 180114 pre-release - this may just possibly be a contributor to "sluggishness" - suggest deleting /usr/bin/lxclipboard and then rebooting/restarting the window manager. I will delete it in the next (pre-)release.

@Billtoo - do you see the Hardinfo problem on Slacko5.6.5.2 vanilla? I think it may be nvidia related but need to do more investigation.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jan 2014, 08:49    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:


@Billtoo - do you see the Hardinfo problem on Slacko5.6.5.2 vanilla? I think it may be nvidia related but need to do more investigation.

Thanks
peebee


Hi peebee,

I did a manual frugal install to a fast SDHC card, pc is an Acer
desktop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Tue 21 Jan 2014 on LxPup 14.01 Linux 3.10.21-4 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 1Cool
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Hardinfo is still not working properly when I click on the menu entry,
same as the nvidia install.
I can get a report with it but it's not working the way it should,
putting up empty windows that don't want to close.

EDIT:
I had a problem with the SDHC card so I did a manual frugal install to
the hard drive of my Acer desktop.
The problem with hardinfo is still there, this one uses the linksys
usb adapter so wireless works fine.
I added some pets that I made in X-slacko-1.1 and they all work fine
in Lxpup so overall this is working great.
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