Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast

What features/apps/bugfixes needed in a future Puppy
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darry1966

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#16 Post by darry1966 »

The great thing there are Pupplets developed by Devs who have done an enormous amount of work to the Gui - themed it and changed the general look. So I guess we have choice - we either use the version straight as it is or pimp it. Or use a different WM.

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#17 Post by backi »

Hi !

I really like E17 Enlightenment Desktop.

Light , stylish, elegant, good looking ,lots of customisations
It needs a bit time to get used to it . But it seems worth the effort ( to me ).

Could not live without it anymore .

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#18 Post by James C »

Quoting myself from another thread...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 679#721679

Puppy Linux, the official distro, the development model and the community, is what it is.The way things are done reflect Barry K's model and these periodic threads aren't going to have much success in changing anything.

That being said,anyone ,or a group, is free to build a puplet or a fork and to fulfill their vision of the "perfect" OS.

Believe it or not,there are a lot of satisfied Puppy users right now.

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#19 Post by mikeb »

I will not quote myself... I would feel weird :D

My inspiration I mentioned on another thread was a puplet called simplepup...
Based on puppy 1.08 he used older xfce4 plus rox to make a nice themeable integrated desktop where everything visually matched...menus were simple and straightforward..just programs you actually use.... rox looked..erm nice even though it was the gtk1 version... it was hard to believe it was still puppy...and yes there were no speed penalties for all this sweetness.
Think of windows 95 simplicity with eye pleasing looks and smooth..yes smooth fonts.

Since then any puppy I have hacked around has followed this loveable approach...only difference I keep the rox icons rather than using the panel but a few convenient launchers on the taskbar are nice.

Think laterally I guess is the moral of this tale...

have fun

Mike

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#20 Post by darry1966 »

James C wrote:Quoting myself from another thread...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 679#721679

Puppy Linux, the official distro, the development model and the community, is what it is.The way things are done reflect Barry K's model and these periodic threads aren't going to have much success in changing anything.

That being said,anyone ,or a group, is free to build a puplet or a fork and to fulfill their vision of the "perfect" OS.

Believe it or not,there are a lot of satisfied Puppy users right now.
Well said James C I think we are best concerned with helping people in the forums and enjoying Puppy Linux as it is I love its simplicity and don't miss the bloat of windows its a bit like the way old appliances like washing machines and oovens were made a simple design that just did what it needs to do and thats it and built solid. That describes Puppy alight.

Personally I think the simple minimilism of the JWM desktop is beautiful, functional and does what you need it to do.

Our energies need to be concentrated on creativity not being niggly.

And finally again a big thankyou to all the DEVS and BK for their time and sweat and sacrificing their own time to this OS.

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Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast

#21 Post by James C »

OnAirPad wrote: Native Puppy looks like a dogs breakfast, its amateurish, menus are cluttered, stuffed full of incomprehensible cr#p, lacking structure, and I have to say I hate that stupid dog icon.
Entirely possible to have less cluttered menus, etc. in Puppy.........

Lots of things are possible.
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#22 Post by Dookus »

The look of puppy is something I personally am very happy with, my needs in computing are not bound by the wank the OS throws at hardware, Vista and forward are heavily dependant on Video performance, bulk of RAM and CPU to support that wank, (infact I don't miss the constant thrashing either!) an OS for me is something that needs to stay out of the way as much as possible, and as we saw with Win9x and beyond a sub set was written (Direct X) to give programs direct access to hardware to give the performance DOS offered, so code piled on code piled on code, piled on errors piled on BSOD's ... what puppy offers is good code, code that performs and is stable, that stays out of the way, that is robust and sweet that runs on hardware that XP and later struggle on or on Large RAM machines with high performance, in fact Puppy is my Win2k, it is the first light OS I've been happy with since, I'm not trying to start a flame war because you want a flashy looking OS, that's your choice, but Puppy may not be what you want if you want wanky flash.

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#23 Post by Tman »

James C,

That's a very nice looking JWM theme you have there. But what's even more interesting to me is how have set up your menu. Can I ask how you implemented this? If possible, I would like to do something similiar, for a future release.

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#24 Post by James C »

Tman wrote:James C,

That's a very nice looking JWM theme you have there. But what's even more interesting to me is how have set up your menu. Can I ask how you implemented this? If possible, I would like to do something similiar, for a future release.
I can take no credit for that........ that is the work of zigbert .See here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#402882

and
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#143732

The above screenies are from a version of 431 Zigbert released (with only a few minor tweaks)....thread is
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#400085

prior version
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#396311


That should be enough to get you started....... :)

HTH.

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#25 Post by jbv »

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Pure Debian Linux (squeeze) with the heart and spirit of a Puppy.

Have a peek (and poke around the forum) ... you may be surprised.

The real world (real life) has stalled things for a few months, although life is returning to normal.
I would really appreciate some help from anyone who really knows *nix

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Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast

#26 Post by ETP »

@OnAirPad

Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast
If your desktop really looks like this.......you are probably doing something wrong!
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#27 Post by Tman »

James C wrote:
I can take no credit for that........ that is the work of zigbert .See here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#402882

and
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#143732

The above screenies are from a version of 431 Zigbert released (with only a few minor tweaks)....thread is
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#400085

prior version
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#396311


That should be enough to get you started....... :)

HTH.
Thanks very much for the links, James C.
I got into Puppy Linux when Lucid was still new, and haven't played much with any of the Puppy4 versions. But I will definately be taking a look at DudE and Stardust Pup.

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Puppy 4

#28 Post by Volhout »

Underlying this discussion the real problem surfaces.

Since puppy 4 series (and before) so many great examples have made (puplets) showing what is possible to achieve with puppy. But none of this has materialized in mainstream.

And.. To be blunt ... That is because the top management doesn't care. Barry is a technology man, and not a marketting man.

I've tried several times over the past years to productize puppy, but no luck. There is drive in the community, but it is not ackowledged, and developers can only choose to fork. Macpup, lighthouse, Lxpup, Carolina, Saluki, etc...

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Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast

#29 Post by infromthepound »

ETP wrote:@OnAirPad

Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast
If your desktop really looks like this.......you are probably doing something wrong!
All that sugar.
I will have to give Puppy up, I'm diabetic.
JB

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Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast

#30 Post by Dookus »

ETP wrote:@OnAirPad

Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast
If your desktop really looks like this.......you are probably doing something wrong!
Going to make the image available please?

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#31 Post by borg286 »

If you haven't tried x-precise yet I highly recommend it. It has the size of puppy, USB-drive capable, puppy 5.7.1 based, ubuntu repo enabled and the polish of Linux Mint.

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#32 Post by kooliepup »

NEW IMPROVED!

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NEW IMPROVED

#33 Post by ETP »

Hi kooliepup,

Nice work and by sheer coincidence I may just have the ideal script to go with it:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 648#722648

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Regards ETP
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#34 Post by Karl Godt »

Thats my breakfast today :
:P
But Bacon'n'Eggs looks good too !!
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#35 Post by sunburnt »

Karl; The breakfast of champions. :wink:

I think Volhout hit it on the head again ( page 2 of this thread ).
Lots of great ideas and code has slipped through Puppy`s paws ( pun...).

I`ve suggested a community effort to create a repository of it, for all variant builders to use.
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