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Re: Problem running browsers as spot

#136 Post by mafur »

Wognath wrote:I also tried jamesbond's script run-as-spot: same result.
Thanks.
just switch back to windows. all problems solved 8)

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#137 Post by MochiMoppel »

bigpup wrote:How much ram is on the computer?
2GB

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#138 Post by bigpup »

MochiMoppel wrote: When I select menu Setup > Sfs manager dowload and install sfs files: "You must install Puppy before using this tool". Hmm... leaves me scratching my head.
Have you installed Slacko?
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#139 Post by bigpup »

MochiMoppel wrote:Just dowloaded Slacko 5.6. I can't install anything as the Install button does nothing. When I run /usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh I see that the script creates index.html in /usr/local/petget/ and immediately deletes it. What's up?
It works OK for me.

Maybe your download of Slacko is bad.
Suggest you do a fresh download of Slacko 5.6 and try again.

If still does not work.
Be specific about how you are running Slacko.
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#140 Post by bigpup »

Slacko 5.6 release notes states:
If you boot to blackscreen:

for intel cards:
i915.modeset=0
ATI/AMD radeon cards:
radeon.modeset=0
nvidia cards:
nouveau.modeset=0


Those strings must be placed after (example) "puppy pfix=ram i915.modeset=0" for live boot or on the kernel line of extlinux.conf, syslinux.conf, menu.lst, lilo.conf
This is a little miss leading.
In extlinux.conf and syslinux.conf the code is placed at the end of the line dealing with initrd.
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#141 Post by MochiMoppel »

bigpup wrote:Have you installed Slacko?
If you mean by "installed" a full install: no. Frugal with boot parameters pmedia=usbflash pfix=ram.

The Package Manager problem is solved. Refuses to start when it can't find /usr/local/petget/ui_Ziggy. My standard startup script (created for Precise) renamed it to /usr/local/petget/ui_Classic so I can use Ziggy instead of Classic, but obviously that was not a good idea. Sorry for the confusion :oops:

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#142 Post by rcrsn51 »

MochiMoppel wrote:
bigpup wrote:Have you installed Slacko?
If you mean by "installed" a full install: no. Frugal with boot parameters pmedia=usbflash pfix=ram.
When I select menu Setup > Sfs manager dowload and install sfs files: "You must install Puppy before using this tool". Hmm... leaves me scratching my head.
Because you are using "pfix=ram", you never have a savefile in play. It looks like the SFS Manager requires a savefile.

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#143 Post by MochiMoppel »

rcrsn51 wrote:Because you are using "pfix=ram", you never have a savefile in play. It looks like the SFS Manager requires a savefile.
No, it doesn't and if it would, it should say so. The message is sheer nonsense.

The SFS Manager shows this message if a user runs PUPMODE 5 (=from a flash drive and without a savefile) and then exits the script:

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[ "$PUPMODE" = "5" ] && gtkdialog-splash \
                        -timeout 5 \
                        -bg hotpink \
                        -icon gtk-dialog-error \
                        -text \
                        "$(gettext "You must install Puppy before using this tool")" \
                        && exit
Here comes the funny part. In the following case statement it checks for PUPMODE 5 and assigns DDIR (the download directory for the sfs packages) to /:

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case $PUPMODE in
	12|13)DDIR=/initrd/mnt/dev_save ;;
	2|3|5|6|77)DDIR=/ ;;
	*)DDIR=/tmp ;;
esac
Exactly the same case statement is repeated in the install_sfs() function, i.e at a time when the DDIR variable is already defined. It doesn't need a second declaration. Not a problem, but not nice either. Also not nice: the default download directory. Why to the root level where I wouldn't expect to find any downloaded files? /tmp seems to be a better place.

When I comment out [ "$PUPMODE" = "5" ] the SFS Manager works as expected: It offers a list of SFS packages for download, and after downloading to the root level of the flash disk it opens sfs_load so that I can install the package on-the-fly. Perfect.

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#144 Post by bigpup »

Some of this is to keep people with very low ram from trying to use SFS files before they have a place to put the file. Some of the SFS files are very large.
A frugal install with a save file provides that room.
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#145 Post by MochiMoppel »

bigpup wrote:Some of this is to keep people with very low ram from trying to use SFS files before they have a place to put the file. Some of the SFS files are very large.
A frugal install with a save file provides that room.
Firstly: I have enough RAM, but it still keeps me from downloading. And what does this have to do with RAM anyway? The script downloads the files (the user can see how large they are) to the installation drive. If the drive of a user cannot accomodate a 200MB download, then the user shouldn't download. No need for a savefile here and (at least at this point) no need for RAM. SFS Manager runs sfs_load (SFS Loan on-the-fly), a script that enables SFS files to load without the need of a savefile. I admit that I can't understand your reasoning.

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#146 Post by bigpup »

Look here for how Puppy works
You may not understand the difference between Pupmodes.
http://puppylinux.com/development/howpuppyworks.html

You may have found some need for tweaking the code for this program.
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#147 Post by MochiMoppel »

bigpup wrote:You may not understand the difference between Pupmodes.
:lol: nice try...

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#148 Post by bigpup »

The script downloads the files (the user can see how large they are) to the installation drive
Pupmode 5 could be while running from a live CD. No way to download to it.

Pupmode 5 everything is in ram.

How does the program know you have enough ram?
Pupmode 5 says there is a good chance you do not.

A lot of people still have computers with 256MB-512MB of ram.

In Puppy land SFS files are big.

100MB is a big file for Puppy.
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#149 Post by bigpup »

sfs_load (SFS Loan on-the-fly), a script that enables SFS files to load without the need of a savefile
Because you normally put the SFS files in /mnt/home which is outside of the save file.
/mnt/home is the top layer of the partition the frugal install is on.
As you say, root level of the flash disk.
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#150 Post by MochiMoppel »

bigpup wrote:Pupmode 5 could be while running from a live CD. No way to download to it.
Agreed, but the script wouldn't try that anyway, so no conflict here.
Pupmode 5 everything is in ram.
...and the downloads as well would go to RAM
How does the program know you have enough ram?
The little applet in the tray shows the amount of personal storage and free space so there are ways to figure that out. But even then: Why does the script shuts down before even knowing how big or small the file will be and if the - not yet selected - file will fit into space or not?
Pupmode 5 says there is a good chance you do not.
Pupmode 5 doesn't say anything about my installed or available RAM. Any speculation about the probability is meaningless.
/mnt/home is the top layer of the partition the frugal install is on.
As you say, root level of the flash disk.
Well, what I said was rubbish :oops: . The script doesn't download to "root level of the flash disk", it downloads to /, which is the root level of the filesystem, RAM that is. That is good enough to load the sfs and for anyone who does not need or has no means to permanently save the file in /mnt/home. But the sfs_load takes care of that too: The script urges the user to permanently save the file and proposes locations.

As I said before: The program runs fine once I remove the unnecessary show-stopper for pupmode 5. If the author is worried about RAM challenged users he could include a warning (an understandable one, not the present), but otherwise let the program continue.

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#151 Post by bigpup »

All programs could probably use a little tweaking.
Tweak away and post your version to the forum.
May turn into the new version for that program.
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#152 Post by MochiMoppel »

bigpup wrote:Tweak away and post your version to the forum.
I'm still in exploration mode :lol: , not much to tweak yet.

New problem: When I try to run a script from Geany with F5 it doesn't work. Was no problem in Precise.
As a workaround I changed back to Geany 0.19.1, copied from Precise, with command /usr/bin/xterm -e bash -c in Preferences > Tools > Terminal. But what would be the correct command in Slacko's Geany 1.23.1?

I found a description of the same problem in How to make Geany execute command (F5 key) to work, but unfortunately no solution :cry:

Edit:
I guess I found the solution. Posted to above thread :D

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Unable to use files whose names contain special characters

#153 Post by Wilhelm »

Files and directories whose names contain special characters (ß, ô, ö, etc.) can be opened, but you can't save changes to them.

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Eu comprendo Português (mas eu não falo muito bêm) :roll:

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#154 Post by 01micko »

No problem here:

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# mkdir -p ßôö
# echo hello > ßôö/hello.txt
# echo hello > ßôö/ßôö.txt
# cat ßôö/ßôö.txt
hello
goodbye
I edited ßôö/ßôö.txt with geany just fine :?

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#155 Post by rufwoof »

In this posting http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 181#756181 Wilhelm has noted that AbiWord in Slacko 5.6 is a unstable version (2.9.4) The latest stable version being 2.8.6 http://www.abisource.com/

From Menu, Wizard Wizard (PupControl) I see that you can uninstall original programs (Install, Remove Builtin) such as abiword 2.9.4.

After doing that how do I install abiword 2.8.6 (stable) ?

TIA

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