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no more hopping
Posted: Fri 18 Oct 2013, 18:07
by johno
I HAVE BEEN PUPPY DISTRO HOPPING FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW,USING 5.7.1 ON MY ASUS 1005HAG NETBOOK I CAN FIND NO PROBLEMS. THIS DISTRO APPEARS TO BE STABLE,CAN BE INSTALLED AS A DUAL BOOT WITH THE EXE INSTALLER OR RUN EQUALLY WELL FROM MY FLASH DRIVE.NO MORE HOPPING FOR ME,THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED.
Retro hangs on shutdown Latitude D400
Posted: Sun 20 Oct 2013, 03:48
by mechmike
Both full hard drive and frugal USB installs hang at shutdown after X shuts down.
Once "Precise Puppy is Shutting Down" appears on the screen, my Latitude D400 (1.4 Pentium M, 1 GB RAM) hangs there until the power button is held down for several seconds.
Edit - Looks like this is the same bug noted by posters step and yin a little earlier in this thread... Sorry for not paying more attention!
step wrote:I'm using the precise 5.7.1 retro build live on an HP dv1250 laptop. It hangs on shutdown in /dev/init.d/10alsa stop called by /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown. I did some debugging and it appears that the command modprobe -rv snd_intel8x0 hangs. I tried it from a terminal and it hangs there as well. It doesn't hang when other five snd_* kernel modules get removed. For now I have commented out the code loop in /dev/init.d/10alsa stop that calls modprobe -rv. If anyone knows how to permanently fix this issue I welcome some help.
I suppose I can't blacklist snd_intel8x0 because it provides the actual sound system, but I'm not positive.
I tried a precise 5.6.1 live and it hangs in the same way.
My hardware:
# lspci | grep audio
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
yin wrote:Thank god someone finally found this. This problem was occurring on my Inspiron 700m as well, requiring me to use a different version of Puppy. Commenting out that modprobe -rv line in /etc/init.d/10alsa seems to fix the shutdown problem. A proper fix would be most appreciated.
Precise Puppy 5.7.1
Posted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 17:46
by Billtoo
I did a manual frugal install of precise 5.7.1 to a 16gb SDHC card.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 21 Oct 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Linux 3.9.11 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
oem: Intel(r)Eaglelake Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)Eaglelake Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G41 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Core 0: @2003 1: @2003 MHz
I updated ppm and then installed firefox
24,kdegames,vlc-2.08,lxterminal,and icewm + icewm themes.
I have another partition on this card ready and waiting for Precise
5.7.2 when/if it comes along
ffconvert-1.4
Posted: Fri 25 Oct 2013, 10:16
by shinobar
Precise 5.7.1 retro
Posted: Sat 26 Oct 2013, 16:25
by markk51
My Dell Latitude D600: 512MB RAM 80GB HD Non-PAE processor (intel M).
A Live CD version of Precise 5.7.1 Retro boots up OK & runs H/W fine. Installing to USB stick also works for the first boot.
clicking on Menu->shutdown brings up a sequence of dialogs about setting up a personal save file. All this works OK too. Then X shuts down and the computer hangs, showing the message "precise puppy is now shutting down".
Holding the power button down does eventually cause the computer to shut down.
When attempting to do the second boot the OS shows all the normal startup messages until it tries to load the save file. Then it generates a kernel panic and hangs. Message sequence: Not syncing; attempted to kill init.
If the save file is renamed or deleted Precise always boots OK.
This behavior also is exhibited when booting a Frugal install that has a save file.
The problem occurs regardless of the file format chosen for the save file (ext2, ext3 etc). The size of the file also does not appear to influence this behavior.
Opening the save file shows that it contains one folder called "lost+found" and nothing else.
Back when I had a working spare internal HD I installed Precise on it with no problems so I don't believe the problem is a hardware or BIOS incompatibility issue.
I'm currently using Wary but thought a bug report might help the community of Precise users. My take on the problem is that the shutdown script used for a Frugal or flash drive install has a problem in the section that writes data to the save file.
Mark
Posted: Sun 27 Oct 2013, 15:35
by Dud
PPM happily finds cinelerra in Puppy5 official.
Test URLs gives a string of 200s but Download comes back 'Not available'
Updating and restarting doesn't fix it.
Can someone please verify?
Tia, Cheerio.
Posted: Sun 27 Oct 2013, 17:51
by watchdog
If you need cinelerra download it from:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-5/
Have you updated packages in PPM? The above link works.
Posted: Sun 27 Oct 2013, 19:51
by Dud
Thanks Watchdog,
I can download directly OK, that copy is a couple of versions stale but will be fine for my purposes.
But PPM still won't play ball - that's what I meant by 'Updating and restarting doesn't fix it.'
Can someone try fetching Cinelerra via PPM in case it's a general problem and not just me?
Cheerio,
Posted: Tue 29 Oct 2013, 17:36
by technosaurus
Barsalou 2005-06-30 04:30:16 EDT
I can confirm this with and hpze4900 with snd_intel8x0m module loaded.
Blacklisting the snd_intel8x0m module in the /etc/hotplug/blacklist file resolves the problem.
Posted: Tue 05 Nov 2013, 00:54
by futwerk
new background.
What was behind the decision to use kernel 3.9.11 ?
Posted: Wed 06 Nov 2013, 19:19
by psionprime
I see that precise 5.7.1 is using kernel 3.9.11. Why ? Research curiosity only; absolutely nothing confrontational or demanding. I appreciate all the efforts that have gone into Puppy Linux !
I have a project in mind and want stability so I'm making a tool chain with Ubuntu 12.04.x LTS in mind. Looking over Puppy I was happy to see a release for Precise which is the Ubuntu label for 12.04.x LTS. This looked great so I can do some things in both distributions under the the theory if I make a .deb in the Ubuntu environment with the same kernel and gnu tool chain I should be able to just install it in puppy precise 5.7.1. When confirming versions for my tool chain I notice the Ubuntu kernel is 3.8.x
Further digging sees that kernel 3.9.11 is an end of life release and for Ubuntu "Saucy" 13.10 though the Ubuntu Saucy release I looked over is using kernel 3.12 ?
What was involved in the decisions to not use the regular Precise kernel version ? I plan on using OpenCL and restricted video drivers that build off the kernel sources so am concerned about getting my tool chain right for that. I've also posted a question in the beginner board about not being able to complete a woof2 5.7.1 build out-of-the-box.
Thanks all for the opportunity to work with this neat distribution. Appreciate any thoughts and pointers !
Re: What was behind the decision to use kernel 3.9.11 ?
Posted: Wed 06 Nov 2013, 22:11
by simargl5
psionprime wrote:This looked great so I can do some things in both distributions under the the theory if I make a .deb in the Ubuntu environment with the same kernel and gnu tool chain I should be able to just install it in puppy precise 5.7.1.
You can still install that deb package and it will work, different kernel versions will not be a problem.
Re: What was behind the decision to use kernel 3.9.11 ?
Posted: Thu 07 Nov 2013, 00:01
by technosaurus
psionprime wrote:What was involved in the decisions to not use the regular Precise kernel version ? I plan on using OpenCL and restricted video drivers that build off the kernel sources so am concerned about getting my tool chain right for that. I've also posted a question in the beginner board about not being able to complete a woof2 5.7.1 build out-of-the-box.
aufs and other puppy patches, but not sure why not 3.10 ... it is LTS now
Posted: Sat 23 Nov 2013, 11:43
by ASRI éducation
Hello !
OCI (one click installer) is a simplified method to install the operating system on first hard drive
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=89050
To help you discover the application, I created a few video tutorials: three are devoted to Precise Puppy 5.7.1 =>
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 5g5yL6ozRQ
Cordialement,
Posted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 18:45
by oldyeller
Can anyone here tell me how to get precise to sleep, suspend and hibernate?
Cheers
Posted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 21:28
by peebee
oldyeller wrote:Can anyone here tell me how to get precise to sleep, suspend and hibernate?
Cheers
Hi oldyeller
Try adding acpid -
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/acpid
I add acpid-1.0.10-3.pet for LxPup
Trouble is I can't remember where it came from, but there is one at:
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/
Cheers
peebee
acpid for precise
Posted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 02:38
by shinobar
Precise-550JP, the Japanese edition, has acpid-busibox-2.pet installed.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/precise/opt/
Posted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 18:06
by oldyeller
Thanks peebee and shinobar; Now I can get OVPrecise to rc.
Cheers
Posted: Thu 28 Nov 2013, 08:39
by esmourguit
Hello Shinobar,
I tried to run your acpid-busibox-2.pet package in a French Racy Puppy 5.5, but the process after pressing the "Suspend" button stops during the process.
Do you know why?
Cordialement,
Esmourguit
Re: acpid-busybox on Racy Puppy 5.5
Posted: Thu 28 Nov 2013, 11:06
by shinobar
esmourguit wrote:French Racy Puppy 5.5
Does the busybox support acpid?
The acpid-busybox is prepared only for the Precise Puppy.