Precise 5.6.9 (5.7beta1)

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Precise 5.6.9 (5.7beta1)

#1 Post by James C »

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00328

Manual frugal install on the Athlon XP box.No real problems.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6.9

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1932 frames in 5.0 seconds = 386.313 FPS
2088 frames in 5.0 seconds = 417.496 FPS
2070 frames in 5.0 seconds = 413.946 FPS
2057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 411.028 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (212MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Precise Puppy - 5.6.9
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 21 Jul 2013 10:03:46 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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#2 Post by James C »

Comparison:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6.4

Code: Select all

# glxgears
125 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.854 FPS
151 frames in 5.0 seconds = 30.140 FPS
146 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.029 FPS
146 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.118 FPS
144 frames in 5.0 seconds = 28.785 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6.9

Code: Select all

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1932 frames in 5.0 seconds = 386.313 FPS
2088 frames in 5.0 seconds = 417.496 FPS
2070 frames in 5.0 seconds = 413.946 FPS
2057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 411.028 FPS 

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#3 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install of Precise 5.6.9 beta to a 16gb SDHC
card,running on a Compaq S6700NX desktop pc.
Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1554MB (115MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Precise Puppy - 5.6.9
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 21 Jul 2013 10:55:07 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 1280x1024 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5961) x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL DRI2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
Renderer Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5961) x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL DRI2
Version 1.3 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.540 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.021 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.021 FPS
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Linksys usb wireless adapter [RT73]

Haven't time to add programs from ppm but will do so later, no
problems so far.

Edit:I added several applications using
ppm,VLC,Xine,Kdegames,Lxterminal, and kfloppy.
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#4 Post by OscarTalks »

Minor cosmetic issue with QtWeb

If you name the icon in /usr/share/pixmaps as QtWeb.png (not all lower case) you will get the icon in the upper left corner of the JWM window and in the tray button which looks more elegant.

As things stand though you would also then have to alter the icon name in the .desktop file and run fixmenus and jwm -reload and then re-assign the icon to the binary QtWeb in /usr/bin to get the pinboard icon back. I suppose creating a symlink might be easier.
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#5 Post by session »

VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6.9

VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1280x1024
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Glxgears in 5.6.9:

Code: Select all

188 frames in 5.0 seconds = 37.539 FPS
183 frames in 5.0 seconds = 36.435 FPS
188 frames in 5.0 seconds = 37.471 FPS
which is more than twice as fast as Precise 5.6.4
...but it's still no Wary 5:

Code: Select all

1336 frames in 5.0 seconds = 267.042 FPS
1335 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.828 FPS

On the whole, Precise is working quite well and I'm excited about it. It's nice to be running an optimized build of Seamonkey (after vanilla builds on Wary); the slightly slower display server is evened-out by the slightly faster browser.
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[color=blue]Secondary[/color] - Pentium 3 533MHz, 385MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF. Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro full install.

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#6 Post by bigpup »

Pcur cursor selector program.

Directs you to install a "cursor_ themes package" from the "Puppy Package Manager" desktop category of the "Puppy- noarch" repository.
No cursor themes package in this repository.
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#7 Post by Ray MK »

Precise Puppy version 5.6.9, released Jul 2013

1st impressions are very good - fast and all seems to work OTB.

Running a manual frugal to an ntfs partition on the E732 laptop, booting with grub4dos from an ext2 SDcard.

Will play some more and post an Hinfo report later.

# uname -a
Linux puppypc21400 3.2.48 #1 SMP Thu Jul 11 12:20:55 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1805144 721680 1083464 0 80624
-/+ buffers: 641056 1164088
Swap: 0 0 0
#
Mem: 716540K used, 1088604K free, 0K shrd, 80624K buff, 490540K cached
CPU: 3% usr 0% sys 0% nic 95% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.18 0.19 0.14 3/112 24799

Outstanding puppy generally - many thanks BK for all that you do.
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Snapshot doesn't work

#8 Post by FeodorF »

Menu->Graphic->mtPaint-snapshot

doesn't work.

xerrs.log:

/bin/sh: mtpaintsnapshot.sh: command not found

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#9 Post by Terryphi »

QTWeb does not work for live video at BBC News Channel. Go to http://bbc.co.uk/news/ and click on LIVE BBC News Channel on the right of the page. You may need to be in the UK to view this. Sound plays but there is no live video displayed. However, pre-recorded video clips do play correctly.

I assume there may be similar failures at other live video sites. (No, not that sort ;) .) Can anyone confirm?
[b]Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package[/b] for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, etc available[url=http://terryphillips.org.uk/operasfs.htm]here[/url] :)

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#10 Post by Billtoo »

I added Clementine music player from ppm and it works fine on many
radio stations but will give an error on some.

EDIT:I added these debs from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ in the
Precise updates section and Clementine works with all the radio stations that
I've tried so far.
These are too big to attach to this message.

gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad_0.10.22.3-2ubuntu2.2_i386.deb
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base_0.10.36-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.31-1ubuntu1.2_i386.deb




http://packages.ubuntu.com/
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#11 Post by Terryphi »

Following on from what Billtoo wrote above, it is possible to get QtWeb working with BBC News Channel Live with the addition of this package only via the PPM:

gstreamer0.10-plugins-base_0.10.36
[b]Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package[/b] for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, etc available[url=http://terryphillips.org.uk/operasfs.htm]here[/url] :)

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#12 Post by Terryphi »

Terryphi wrote:Following on from what Billtoo wrote above, it is possible to get QtWeb working with BBC News Channel Live with the addition of this package only via the PPM:

gstreamer0.10-plugins-base_0.10.36
This is really weird. On subsequently opening QtWeb the above fix does not work and the problem persists.
[b]Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package[/b] for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, etc available[url=http://terryphillips.org.uk/operasfs.htm]here[/url] :)

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#13 Post by Terryphi »

The more I use QtWeb the more I realise how buggy it is. There are frequent crashes which require OS reboot at various sites. Attempting to bookmark sites can also cause the same crash. QtWeb may be lightweight and fast but it is ultimately a pile of doggy doo.
[b]Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package[/b] for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, etc available[url=http://terryphillips.org.uk/operasfs.htm]here[/url] :)

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#14 Post by Jasper »

Hi Terryphi et al,

session advised - under settings try checking "Ask where to save each download"
- that enabled some downloads which failed when trying to download to a pre-specified folder.

It seems unlikely it will help with your Qt-Web BBC video hitch - but perhaps it's worth a try?

My regards

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#15 Post by bigpup »

Posted on 22 Jul 2013, 18:39 by BarryK
Pcur cursor themes
bigpup reported in the Forum that Pcur directs to install 'cursor_themes' in the Desktop category in the 'puppy-noarch' repository, in the Puppy Package Manager. But, it isn't there.

Yes it is.

The combobox in the PPM is set to display "GUI apps only".

'cursor_themes' is not strictly a "GUI app". Change the selection to show all apps, or use the search box.
OK, need to have working understanding of the selections of the PPM combobox.
I always test a Puppy version from the eyes and understanding of a new user of Puppy.
I wonder if a new user would understand this?
Should all apps (any type) be the default setting for PPM combobox?
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#16 Post by pemasu »

I believe new user uses his eyes. Old user uses his spinal cord. That is the reason why old user does not notice when the default behavior changes.

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#17 Post by James C »

Fresh manual frugal install of 5.6.9 on a powerful P3 test box.Display and sound working on boot..... used SNS to quickly get internet connection.All basics look good.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.6.9

Chip description:
Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe ddc dri dri2 extmod fb glx int10 kbd mouse ramdac record vbe vgahw xaa

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
34 frames in 5.1 seconds = 6.607 FPS
31 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6.192 FPS
33 frames in 5.2 seconds = 6.310 FPS
40 frames in 5.2 seconds = 7.667 FPS
38 frames in 5.1 seconds = 7.454 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (142MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Precise Puppy - 5.6.9
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 22 Jul 2013 06:26:06 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

-Processor-
Name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Family, model, stepping : 6, 8, 6 (Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron/Core Duo/Core Duo 2)
Vendor : Intel
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 256kb
Frequency : 730.96MHz
BogoMIPS : 1462.83
Byte Order : Little Endian

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Precise 5.6.9 (5.7beta1)

#18 Post by Billtoo »

I used the puppy universal installer to do a frugal install to a hp
pavilion a810n desktop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 22 Jul 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.6.9 Linux 3.2.48 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV530
[Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.827 FPS
304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.729 FPS
304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.729 FPS
#
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @2411 MHz
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter CA0106 - CA0106
Ethernet controller Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet
(rev 90)
I installed my favorite applications from ppm.
No problems so far, also installed video-info-glx-1.5.3-noarch.pet and
PupSnap-2.2_Scrot-0.8_32Bit.pet from the forum.
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#19 Post by Ray MK »

Precise Puppy version 5.6.9, released Jul 2013

This is one very impressive Puppy - fast - no obvious issues - all working OTB.

Running a manual frugal to an ntfs partition on the E732 laptop, booting with grub4dos from an ext2 SDcard.

# uname -a
Linux puppypc21400 3.2.48 #1 SMP Thu Jul 11 12:20:55 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1805144 623792 1181352 0 37392
-/+ buffers: 586400 1218744
Swap: 0 0 0
# top
Mem: 624504K used, 1180640K free, 0K shrd, 37448K buff, 433148K cached
CPU: 3% usr 0% sys 0% nic 95% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.05 0.11 0.12 2/109 15257

Next job - try on the 10yr old Acer laptop.
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Report 'glxgears'

#20 Post by FeodorF »

Hint: If your old box will not provide a good 'glxgears' rate read right here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 525#713525
Computer
Processor: Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory: 1294MB (128MB used)
Cache Size: 256kb
Frequency: 932.97MHz
BogoMIPS: 1866.69
Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c4)
Board: TYAN S 1854 Trinity 400

VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Display
Resolution: 1600x900 pixels
Vendor: The X.Org Foundation
Version: 1.11.3

OpenGL
Vendor: Nouveau
Renderer: Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX/SSE
Version: 1.2 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering: Yes
# glxgears (SeaMonkey running in window#1)
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 295.730 FPS
1433 frames in 5.0 seconds = 286.357 FPS
1497 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.172 FPS
1458 frames in 5.0 seconds = 291.584 FPS
1399 frames in 5.0 seconds = 279.791 FPS

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1778 frames in 5.0 seconds = 355.539 FPS
1862 frames in 5.0 seconds = 372.393 FPS
1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 367.869 FPS
1886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.096 FPS
1840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 367.869 FPS

Video runs fine!
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