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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 18:22    Post subject:  

Edoc. That gqrx has been compiled to use pulseaudio as audio backend. It is not compatible with Puppy without quite a work. Done that once. It would mean that you abandon using alsa which Puppies use as chosen audio backend.

I am not going to hassle with pulseaudio. But if you dont need audio...then it is no problem. I just think audio is quite important with SDR.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 18:37    Post subject:  

Audio is critical to my needs.

Does Barry have a strategy to transition to Pulseaudio or ??

Do we at some point hit a wall with ALSA-dependency - or will both ALSA and PulseAudio be necessary for a long time to come?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio

I see PulseAudio is up to v. 4.0 here:
http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/releases/

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 20:17    Post subject:  

"rtl_test -t" tells me I have no PLL lock at
Quote:
51000000, 2206000000, 1104000000, or 124300000 Hz
.

It also tells me:
Quote:

EK4 Range: 52 - 2205MHz
EK4 L-Band Gap: 1104 - 1243 MHz


It reads the same in either HF or VHF/UHF position of the switch.


I tried
Code:
/usr/bin/./rtl_sdr /tmp/capture.bin -s 3.0e6 -f 144.390e6


Got back:

Quote:
Found 1 Device(s)

0: Realtek, RTL2838UHIDIR, SN000000001

Using device 0: Terratec T Stick PLUS
Found Elonics E4000 Tuner
Exact sample rate is: 3000000.178814 Hz
Tuned to 144390000 Hz
Reading samples in async mode ...
Short write, samples lost, exitin!

Library error 0, exiting ...

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug 2013, 20:57    Post subject:  

Would this fill a gap in the bundle you are building?

gr-scan is built upon GNU Radio, rtl-sdr, and the OsmoSDR Source Block and is intended to scan a range of frequencies and print a list of discovered signals.

http://www.techmeology.co.uk/gr-scan/

Could this Radio Scanner utility be added to your bundle, please?

https://github.com/EarToEarOak/RTLSDR-Scanner

I stumbled upon another GUI app for RTL-SDR here (only 64-bit for Linux):

http://www.sdr-j.tk/index.html

And, I found the following here: http://superkuh.com/rtlsdr.html#installing

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patchvonbraun (Marcus Leech)'s multimode:

AM, FM, USB, LSB , WFM. TV-FM, PAL-FM. Very nice, easy to use (screenshots: main, scanning). It has an automated scanning and spectral zoom features with callbacks to click on the spectrogram or panorama to tune to the frequency of interest. There's a toggle for active gain control too. The way to get it is,

Code:
svn co https://www.cgran.org/svn/projects/multimode


then instead of using GRC, just run the multimode.py as is.

Code:
make install
    python multimode.py


If you run it outside of the svn created directory you might need to append ~/bin to pythonpath to find the helper script. If you used build-gnuradio it'll tell you what this is at the end of the install.

Alternately set it in your ~/.bashrc. If you do the below make sure to reload in the terminal by "source ~/.bashrc")

Code:
 PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages:~/bin
    export PYTHONPATH;


When setting the sample rate it is rounded-down to a multiple of 200 Ksps so the decimation math works out.

Code:
    python multimode.py --srate=2.4M # use normal mode with 2.4 MHz bandwidth
    ./multimode.py --devinfo="rtl=0,direct_samp=1" # use direct sample mode
    python multimode.py --help


If you have overruns like "OOOOoo..." then try reducing the sample rate or pausing the waterfall or spectrum displays.

"The audio subsystem uses 'a' as the identifier, and UHD uses 'u'. With RTLSDR, it'll issue 'O' when it experiences an overrun. Which means that your machine isn't keeping up with the data stream. Sometimes buffering helps, but only if your machine is right on the edge of working properly. If it really can't, on average "keep up", no amount of buffering will help."

If you have overruns like "aUaUaUaUa" or just "aaa" then the audio system is asking for samples at a higher rate than the DSP flow can provide (44vs48Khz, etc). Use "aplay -l" to get a list of the devices on your system.

Code:
aplay -l


The hw:X,Y comes from this mapping of your hardware -- in this case, X is the card number, while Y is the device number. Or you can use "pulse" for pulseaudio. Try specifying,

Code:
python multimode.py--ahw hw:0,0


gqrx:

Written by Alexandru Csete OZ9AEC "gqrx is an experimental AM, FM and SSB software defined receiver". The original version did not have librtlsdr support so changes were made by a number of others to add it. A couple weeks later Csete added gr-osmosdr support to the original. Dekar established a non-pulseaudio port of gqrx for Mac OSX. GNU Radio 3.7 has recently been released and it is not exactly backwards compatible. patchvonbraun's build-gnuradio.sh pulls 3.6.5 by default since many useful modules are targeted for it. You might need to pull 3.7 with build-gnuradio's "-m" switch for the most recent gqrx.

Code:
git clone https://github.com/csete/gqrx.git
    cd gqrx
    # on Ubuntu/Debian, sudo apt-get install qtcreator , if you don't have it.
    qtcreator gqrx.pro    # press the build button (the hammer)
    # or avoid qtcreator and do it manually.
    qmake
    make

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 15:36    Post subject: Usb 3.0 problem.  

Hi pemasu,

sorry I have not been clear with my usb 3.0 problem.

I have this distro installed in a USB 3.0 stick.

If I mount this stick in a usb 2.0 port it uses the internal broadcom chip with wl driver to connect to my wi-fi router with no problem.

If I mount this stick in a USB 3.0 port the internal broadcom wireless will not connect and badly affects my router.

If I then put a Belcom external USB wi-fi into the USB 2.0 port, I can connect to my router. Again with no problem. This with the stick still mounted in the USB 3.0 port.

Perhaps Frisbee needs a sleep command inserted somewhere to make USB 3.0 compatible?

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 16:24    Post subject: SiliconDust HDHomeRun TV-IP Tuner Working  

Just got the SiliconDust HDHomeRun TV-IP Tuner working under Raring.

Their Linux apps plus VLC gets it done.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78268&start=15

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 17:07    Post subject: Slackware-Arch Package Manager - Otherwise XArchive?  

I was about to run the updated tgz packages for hdhomerun and a pop-up presented two choices:

If this is a Slackware or Arch package you want to install then the Package Manager application will run, if no XArchive will run.

I am presuming I should choose the second - correct?

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 17:22    Post subject:  

Tony. Got it now. Well...for sure, with this kernel, using usb 3.0 stick in usb 3.0 port and trying to use wl.ko kernel module, there seems to be critical bug. First wl.ko is old proprietary module. It has been patched several times to be compatible with recent kernels. I believe that wl.ko just isnt compatible in your usage. The fix would not be very probable. If it is bug in 3.9.9 kernel, then updated kernel might fix the problem. 01micko has created 3.10.5 kernel Slacko. I dont know if Peebee has compiled wl.ko for it, but I am sure he will try, if 01micko stays with that kernel. Then you could try if other Puppy works better. If you have academic curiosity to this problem. The outcome would be nice to hear.

Edoc. Great that you succeeded in that other TV device.
And...that second Xarchive choice is right. It sounds there is source to compile.

I have been busy with life. I just had time to install Lubuntu 64 bit. I got Pumblebee to work with it. I just had compulsory need to know that I can use that Nvidia better dedicated graphics. Now I know I can. I have now finnish full install Lubuntu with Finnish LibreOffice and with finnish Voikko grammar and hyphenation. Something which has been impossible to get in work in Puppies for reason or other. Now I also know that Nvidia 325.X versions are for me, it is compatible when I switch optimus Geforce 710M graphics in use with Pumblebee.

To get Pumblebee working in Puppies. It will need compiling the components from source but it would need also some graphics files manipulation. That will be the tough piece. Of course inspecting the launchpad way would help. Adapting the scripts to find things in Puppy style. But with my skills....I dont know yet when I would take that task under work. Now I am happy that I can switch Nvidia off so that it does not use watts, and that all the other hw works which I use. Damn Lubuntu switched grub to grub2 but included my Upup Raring full install to the boot menu. I should switch grub4dos back, but it is possible I will wipe the hdd once. This is now just playing and having usable distros for daily usage. I havent copied my woof - compile - puppy folders stuff to the hdd yet.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 18:26    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
I dont know if Peebee has compiled wl.ko for it, but I am sure he will try, if 01micko stays with that kernel. Then you could try if other Puppy works better. If you have academic curiosity to this problem. The outcome would be nice to hear.


01micko has now built-in wl driver into his k3.10.5pae version of slacko - it seems to work fine (for me).

Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 22:44    Post subject:
Subject description: USB problems
 

Hi pemasu and peebee,

I seem to have drawn the wrong conclusions to my connection problems. They seem to have occured because my router and computer are too near to one another.

I have dropped the power of the broadcom wi-fi. and can now connect.

iwcanfig wlan0 txpower 5mw gets me connected, but not reliably, still it's step in the right direction.

Regards Tony.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Aug 2013, 12:07    Post subject: Upup Raring 3.9.9.1 with non-PAE 3.9.9 kernel.  

I did a new manual frugal install to a gateway desktop pc, updated
ppm, added a lot of applications,and updated to the newest nvidia
driver.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 9 Aug 2013 on Upup Raring 3.9.9.1
Linux 3.9.9-upup i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108
[GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.13.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 325.15
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: @800 1: @800 2: @800 3: @800 MHz

It's working great.

I did another new manual frugal install to a 32gb SDHC card, pc is an
Acer laptop.
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Memory 3102MB (475MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Upup Raring - 3.9.9.1
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 10 Aug 2013 02:08:21 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 3520x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:400a
Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Aug 2013, 19:08    Post subject: Makefile - Editing for upup Raring?  

If I want to run the following Makefile in upup Raring 3.9.9.1, and I want to keep as much code as possible outside the Personal Storage, I'm thinking that I may need to make some small changes.

e.g. to locate
Code:
mkdir gr-scan-$(VERSION)
at /mnt/home/stuffcode should this be
Code:
mkdir /stuffcode/gr-scan-$(VERSION)
?

Thanks!

Quote:
VERSION=2012082301
CXXFLAGS=-DVERSION="\"gr-scan $(VERSION)\"" -std=c++11 -Wall -I/usr/include/gnuradio -I/usr/include/osmosdr -lgnuradio-core -lgnuradio-osmosdr -lboost_system -O2 -s -Wno-unused-function

gr-scan: *.cpp *.hpp
g++ $(CXXFLAGS) -o gr-scan main.cpp

clean:
rm -f gr-scan gr-scan.tar.gz

dist:
mkdir gr-scan-$(VERSION)
cp *.cpp *.hpp Makefile COPYING gr-scan-$(VERSION)
tar -cf - gr-scan-$(VERSION) | gzip -9 -c - > gr-scan-$(VERSION).tar.gz
rm -r gr-scan-$(VERSION)

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 12:46    Post subject: gr-scan make error  

I went ahead and tried "make" for gr-scan without any Makefile mods.

What, please, is this cryptic error telling me and how might I fix it?

Quote:
sh-4.1# make
g++ -DVERSION="\"gr-scan 2012082301\"" -std=c++11 -Wall -I/usr/include/gnuradio -I/usr/include/osmosdr -lgnuradio-core -lgnuradio-osmosdr -lboost_system -O2 -s -Wno-unused-function -o gr-scan main.cpp
cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-std=c++11’
make: *** [gr-scan] Error 1
sh-4.1#

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 13:32    Post subject:  

Edoc. The compiler is too old. It does not recognize that option.

With PPM start with: g++-4.7_4.7.3
Install it and all dependencies it suggests. If that does not help. Install these, if above package with dependencies did not install them:
gcc-4.7_4.7.3
gcc_4.7.3
libgcc1_4.7.3
libgomp1_4.7.3
libquadmath0_4.7.3

...and maybe something else also.

These SDR applications are bleeding edge. They are meant for people who know how to compile, how to debug errors, they know how to edit Makefile, edit source files because gnu radio development files change all the time and there is no team of developers fixing things for users. They have to do it themselves.

Just telling because there will be problems ahead in the future also....
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 14:25    Post subject:  

I downloaded them all and still get the same error. I even tried a reboot to be sure everything was recognized. Sad

BTW1: The PPM docs I found do not address this but does the green check mark mean it is an exact match to the search or that the file has been previously downloaded?

BTW2: I learn a lot & find it energizing to watch the way you all solve problems ...

I hate to waste anyone's time with this but these are tools I can make use of almost daily if I can get them working.

I appreciate any assistance, including direction to simple tutorials that help me to hammer-out solutions myself (most seem to presume pre-existing knowledge and unintentionally skip steps).

I try to post the steps I take along the way back to the Forum for the benefit of others ... there are lots of inquiries out there about the use of these devices so I pray there there is a benefit to many & not only me.

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