slacko-5.6 Final - plus testing next

[mavrothal]

Updated Slacko-5.5 to 5.5.90 without any problem.
One thing I noticed is that in my /lib/modules I had all previous 3.2.3x kernels.
Is a woof thing but you may want to update rc.update to remove old kernels from that folder.

[Jades]

Initial pfix=ram boot of 5.5.91 on Pentium D machine. Pidgin doesn't show up in the slacko14 repo even after updating PPM and reloading it.

[Billtoo]

Manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive, computer is an emachines
D620 laptop.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 12 Aug 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5.91 Linux 3.10.5 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller:
ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS690 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
282 frames in 5.0 seconds = 56.280 FPS
298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.453 FPS
298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.453 FPS
#
AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: @1595 MHz
Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)

I tried tas for the screenshots but it didn't work for me, I installed
PupSnap-2.2_Scrot-0.8_32Bit.pet from the forum and it works fine,
maybe because I'm used to it.

No other problems so far.

EDIT:
This is a screenshot of Midnight Commander 4.8.10 which I used to
launch dosbox where I launched Norton Commander 3.0 which will be used to
launch old dos programs.
Fun

[SFR]

I tried tas for the screenshots but it didn't work for me

Hey Billtoo

Could you please launch tas from command line and post its output?
Also, check if one of these will work for you:

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ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1280x800 -r 25 -i :0.0 -vframes 1 -pix_fmt rgb24 $HOME/testshot.png

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ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1280x800 -r 25 -i $DISPLAY -vframes 1 -pix_fmt rgb24 $HOME/testshot.png

Greetings!

[Billtoo]

Could you please launch tas from command line and post its output?

Here's the output.

EDIT: Could it be because I have ffmpeg set to run as spot?

[SFR]

Could you please launch tas from command line and post its output?

Here's the output.

EDIT: Could it be because I have ffmpeg set to run as spot?

Bingo!
Yes, it's "spot" case. I was able to recreate it (see screenshot).
In such a case we need to save to /root/spot/.

Thanks &
Greetings!

[anikin]

When I meet one of those trolls in the forum, I wonder; Do they act like this IRL?

zigbert, mon ami,
I'm here to learn linux. Asking questions is part of my learning process. A similar question that I asked recently in another thread, fixed a bug in woof - intel driver loaded twice. So, it's not entirely a one way thing. I'm not here to lecture others, or tolerate being lectured by others. Show me a single word in any of my previous posts, that would suggest trolling. Should you find one, I will buy you a bottle of Aqua Vita and a bunch of flowers, next time I'm in Norway. Perhaps, only Micko remebers the underlying context of the question. Nothing disrespectful, nothing out of point, a well-intended and well-versed exchange of questions and answers. Questions that anyone, who's remastering a puppy will have. Google has no answers for things like 'network-checked flags' or 'desktop.flg', or 'quicksetup-pupmode5-autodriver'. Nor that info can be found in the many threads of this forum. Do you know how flag setting mechanism work, or why it's needed in the first place? Share your knowledge, if you do. And please, abstain from throwing labels on me, OK?

[gcmartin]

Issue 1
Booted 5591 on Touch and the same touch issues exist. The symtoms is that the mouse icon does NOT track with the finger. It is obvious that the mouse pointer is on the screen and one can use finger to move, but, attempting to "align" the mouse and finger for consistency, remains; thus making it impossible to click buttons on the screen except thru lots of difficulty.

Make me wonder if there is a setting somewhere on 32bit Slacko that can bring the system's detection in-line with the actual on-desktop screen's pointer. Or if there is some synchronization utility that make this "a snap".

Issue 2
Found that XArchive does NOT open a ".gz" file. When I open the utility and select to open for edit an existing file from the xArchive menu (/tmp/root/video-info-full.gz), the compressed file is NOT opened into the XArchive screen. Is this normal behavior?

Also, to note, that the system DOES behave expectantly when the compressed file is double-clicked in a FM; namely, the system will extract the contents

These are the only 2 issues I run across in tests. These are NOT show-stoppers by any means.System and RAM Reports and screens are below:

[gcmartin]

...smbclient using hostname has never worked for me from puppy; maybe it's my network. It always looks for some obscure network in the US, IP of 199.101.28.130 ...

Sorry for the tardy response to this.

This is a classic (meaning since the beginning) problem with Unix/Linux/x distros where the systems rely on the DNS for name resolution. The problem here is how the LAN is structured.

If there is a Wins server on the LAN OR if there is a local DNS registry on the LAN, and the Linux knows about it (told by the DHCP server), then name resolution will occur locally (meaning on the LAN).

If neither exist, then Linux defaults (routes) the name resolution to the router which, in turn, routes it to its known available DNS (which happens to be on the Internet side of the LAN) which knows nothing about the PCs on your local LAN.

There are 2 solutions that are apparent to resolve this: Local DNS server (which DNSMASQ does a fabulous job) or use Wins server (and NOT the normal name-resolution elections used by Windows PCs).

Time permitting, in the future, I will write a general purpose document for understanding of how to set up a Wins server on home LANs so that the PCs can "find" and reference shares by name versus the use of IP address. The ability to do this is currently in PhatSlacko, and LightHouse64 where SAMBA 4 is built-into those 2 distros.

And for those of us who use the Netboot facility on 32bit or 64bit PUP distro, DNSMASQ is built into the facility and might be adaptable to a simple addition for a LAN'S DNS resolution central.

Most "quality" routers provide this ability to setup or designate a local DNS server. And its also available in those routers which can be "rooted" to add you own custom configurator versus the vendor's. On these rooted routers, they allow a Unix/linux to replace the vendor's firmware and they use DNSMASQ for the LAN/WAN services thats given the user thru the services configuration screens.

Puppy could "easily" (easy for me to say...right) fix this should they change from using DHCP subsystem to using DNSMASQ as the replacement subsystem for in PUPs. But, this is NOT for the "faint of heart" as it usually is a learning curve for whomever undertakes to demonstrate this to Barry and the Puppy community. And, current DHCP works and is understood by most. DNSMASQ is very very powerful and over the years has many many features. The features MUST be combined and exercised in a consistent fashion for proper operation(s). But, there is little question on the power that it brings in how it can be exercised to address LAN and routing services.

Hope this explanation helps in understanding why name resolution isn't working; where it appears to work in Windows.

Here to help

[gcmartin]

SAMBA 4 PET via PPM working with little to no effort. Sharing a public folder out to all PCs on LAN. Great work, again. Able to see it from all devices including xPhone.

FYI

[01micko]

Announcement in about an hour... tidying up loose ends.

For the impatient, a couple of small deltas:

http://slackotest.01micko.com/slacko-5.6/

EDIT: it's out!

You know where to look

[zigbert]

Congrats and thank you!


Sigmund

[SFR]

Hi Mick

Ah, I couldn't post it earlier - my internet connection was down for ~12h.

Unfortunately, two brand new issues.
Fortunately, they are present only in k3.10.5, k3.4.52 is fine.

1)
My 16GB Kingston DT100 won't get recognized.
Here's relevant dmesg part:

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[  949.523301] usb 2-1.2: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[  949.609496] usb 2-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1607
[  949.609505] usb 2-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[  949.609512] usb 2-1.2: Product: DataTraveler 2.0
[  949.609518] usb 2-1.2: Manufacturer: Kingston
[  949.609524] usb 2-1.2: SerialNumber: 001372982A06F9B136420DA3
[  949.609916] usb-storage 2-1.2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[  949.610023] scsi10 : usb-storage 2-1.2:1.0
[  950.613796] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[  950.615489] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 31252024 512-byte logical blocks: (16.0 GB/14.9 GiB)
[  950.616158] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[  950.616167] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 16 07 09 51
[  950.616767] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Incomplete mode parameter data
[  950.616773] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[  980.766671] usb 2-1.2: reset high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[ 1011.740415] usb 2-1.2: reset high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[ 1042.767123] usb 2-1.2: reset high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci

...and so on, and so on...

but that's it - even GParted can't see it...
And nothing's being created in /dev/ as well.

2)

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# iwlist wlan0 scan | grep Quality
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=10 dBm  
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=10 dBm  
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=10 dBm  
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=10 dBm  
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=10 dBm  
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=10 dBm  
# 

Sudden quality boost!

Hope it's just me...

Thanks &
Greetings!

[01micko]

hi SFR

A bit unfortunate about your kingston stick, lets hope it's an isolated case, although kingston are popular. Obviously a kernel bug.

One thing on my to do list is to create a kernel swap script to accompany kernel-kit (which needs an update, I'll post my latest soon). All it has to do is build an initrd based on whatever initrd you supply, so it will just replace the old modules with the new (if they exist). of course this will fall over if the kernel versions are far apart but it is probably worth that risk for the gain in ease of switching kernels.

As for the wireless bug, if it works ok then we live with that!

Cheers

[Sylvander]

My latest Slacko...
I'm working in it now...
Is version 5.3.3.1-SCSI
Booted from CD-RW with slackosave on internal HDD.
With pmedia=ataflash [I changed it...in isolinux.cfg within the ISO file if I remember right].

Questions:
1. Do I need to begin afresh [new slackosave] for Slacko-5.6 Final...
Or is there any way to update from the one to the other?

2. Is there any general rule about such things?
Or is it different in each case depending upon...whatever?

[SFR]

As for the wireless bug, if it works ok then we live with that!

Sure it works!

As for the USB - I just checked and also my old SonyEricsson 750i phone (actually, its memory card) isn't recognized.

BTW, if I'll wait ~6 minutes, it (only Kingston) appears on the desktop eventually and works good.
Now I'm hoping to find a way to speed up this process...

PS. Looks like I'm not alone - someone (Arch) has similar (and fresh: 2013-08-10) problem:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168003
EDIT: and there's a patch for this.

Greetings!

[Jades]

My latest Slacko...
I'm working in it now...
Is version 5.3.3.1-SCSI
Booted from CD-RW with slackosave on internal HDD.
With pmedia=ataflash [I changed it...in isolinux.cfg within the ISO file if I remember right].

Questions:
1. Do I need to begin afresh [new slackosave] for Slacko-5.6 Final...
Or is there any way to update from the one to the other?

Normally the save is automatically upgraded as part of the boot process, but you will have quite a big jump in versions so it's possible that something may go wrong. I tried upgrading one of my 5.3.3 saves to a 5.5.x test version and it didn't work properly but it's possible that save was corrupt to start with as I hadn't tested it with 5.3.3 before hand.

2. Is there any general rule about such things?
Or is it different in each case depending upon...whatever?

Always back up your pupsave before trying to update. Boot pfix=ram from the CD or boot into a different OS and make a copy of the file first. It may be worth your while creating a new save anyway and copying your stuff across.

[Royville]

Hi and congrats to all involved with the new Slacko 5.6

I'm running 5.5.91 installed on an 8 gig usb flash drive (to use at work and at home on different PC's) and it runs brilliantly.

I need to use MS Excel, and was just wondering if Wine will run OK in Slacko so I can install the office 2003 cd. Is there a specific version I need to install?

Thanks

[puppyfan82]

Thanks micko for a wonderful new release! I do have a problem, though. When I try to shutdown or restart, the machine hangs at 'puppy is shutting down' message. I then have to do a hard reset. I had upgraded from 5.5 to 5.6. This was working fine in the older release.

[bigpup]

My latest Slacko...
I'm working in it now...
Is version 5.3.3.1-SCSI
Booted from CD-RW with slackosave on internal HDD.
With pmedia=ataflash [I changed it...in isolinux.cfg within the ISO file if I remember right].

Questions:
1. Do I need to begin afresh [new slackosave] for Slacko-5.6 Final...
Or is there any way to update from the one to the other?

From the Slacko release notes:
http://slacko.01micko.com/notes.html

There will be issues with upgrading from 5.3x (based on 13.37). Slackware, as have Debian, have moved to the module tool known as "kmod". This is because module-init-tools has not been developed in 2 years. This will cause probelems with upgrading full installs. I recommend (if you try it) removing all module init tools programs (/sbin/depmod, /sbin/modinfo, /sbin/modprobe, /sbin/lsmod there is a full list in ~/.packages/builtin-files/module-init-tools, 13.37 based only) and then try to update. With frugals it might work with no manual intervention. It is highly reccommended to start with a clean install
Upgrades from 5.4 and 5.5 should proceed normally. If you have firefox installed it is recommended to uninstall it from the PPM before upgrading but after you backup your files. Read that again, backup. Data loss does not occur when you regularly backup!