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anikin

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 00:56    Post subject:  

to clarify the meaning of trust:
01micko wrote:
I tend to agree. It is a good idea but should ask the user if it's ok to make the file, especially for ntfs/fat. I won't be producing a pup with that enabled.
This is of course just my opinion and I will post to BK's blog.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=703129#703129


By disabled you mean including pupmode=5? How come that I have 'quicksetup-pupmode5-autodriver'? Which IS a pupdesk.flg in disguise, see the attached image and read the ending of the above code. Or you forgot to mention, that Barry has a little exception in his code.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 01:31    Post subject:  

Quote:
if [ "$PRAMONLY" != "yes" -a $PUPDESKFLG -eq 1 ];then #130514 exclude. 130515
if [ ! -f /tmp/RWPART ];then
if [ "$LINUXFS" ];then
RWPARTFLG=''
case $ONEFS in
ext2|ext3|ext4|reiserfs|minix|f2fs) RWPARTFLG="$(cat /proc/mounts | grep "/dev/${ONEDEV} " | grep ' rw,')" ;;
esac
else
RWPARTFLG="$(cat /proc/mounts | grep "/dev/${ONEDEV} " | grep ' rw,')"
fi
[ "$RWPARTFLG" ] && echo -n "${ONEDEV}|${ONEFS}" > /tmp/RWPART #where we intend to create pupdesk.flg, see further down.
fi
fi


That code doesn't execute



Code:
    if [ $PUPMODE -eq 5 ];then
     if [ "$DISTRO_XORG_AUTO" = "yes" ];then #see /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
      echo -n "$XDRIVERSUCCESS" > /var/local/quicksetup-pupmode5-autodriver
     fi
    fi

Quote:
...that I have 'quicksetup-pupmode5-autodriver'? Which IS a pupdesk.flg in disguise,
No it isn't.

now boot in RAM mode, hard power off then let me know when you boot to cli mode. Do you think I didn't test it?

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 01:49    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of 5.5.90.....looking good so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.5.90

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 55
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 56
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 59
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 58
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
4989 frames in 5.0 seconds = 997.755 FPS
5489 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1097.780 FPS
5507 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1101.281 FPS
5497 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1099.380 FPS
5526 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1105.116 FPS


ocessor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3373MB (283MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.5.90
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 12 Aug 2013 12:58:17 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV4C
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.4.52 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Wed Jul 10 10:53:04 EST 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : Slacko Puppy - 5.5.90

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3373796       980304      2393492            0        81720
-/+ buffers:             898584      2475212
Swap:      6211580            0      6211580
#
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James C


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 01:54    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Do you think I didn't test it?


Testing....... we don't need any stinking testing......... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 02:06    Post subject:  

Just booted into Mint..... using Nvidia 304.88 driver.

james@james-desktop ~ $ glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.214 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.719 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.717 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.716 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.719 FPS
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 03:11    Post subject:  

When I meet one of those trolls in the forum, I wonder; Do they act like this IRL?

If so, I understand why they end up in an anonymous forum where they can bark without any social impact.


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 04:07    Post subject:  

Upgrade from 5.5.80 to 5.5.90 on the old Athlon XP box...... looks good.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.5.90

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
132 frames in 5.0 seconds = 26.334 FPS
136 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.122 FPS
138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.589 FPS
140 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.819 FPS
139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.594 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (276MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.5.90
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 12 Aug 2013 01:17:20 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
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Volhout

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 06:29    Post subject: 5.5.90
Subject description: eeePC 1001HA
 

Run 5.5.90 (this is the 4G version ? This netbook has an N270 processor, so I need the 4G version .. I recall) from USB key, and try to install from there as an f2fs install on 4 gig SD card (just to try, I never used f2fs before).

Get error message that syslinux does not support f2fs. Is this because the 3.10.x kernell only supports f2fs (5.5.91) ? If the 3.4.52 (5.5.90) does not support f2fs, then you could remove the f2fs installer from the menu in 5.5.90.

Also tried 5.5.90 frugal on a Dell with i5....amazing....this is blazing fast.!!
All works OOTB (network, wifi, video, audio).

No offence meant on this remark 01Micko, but what about asking one of the artistic guys in the "eye candy" thread to give this great product great looks...?? You do have some nice wallpapers in there, but I can imagine there are guys there that would love to give your masterpiece the finishing touch. Maybe just 1 or 2 themes. The little extra that would make it WOW....
For the developer this may seem nonsense, but users would love it !! (I would). It may add a few Mbyte ...

A suggestion (from a user) could be to strip some of the programs that are double. Example: documents menu contains Abiword (for docs) and Geany for programs. Then there is Leafpad for simple text, but same could be done with Geany... And then... MP and E3 editors... are these needed ? Similar: do we need 2 calculators ? There are several system process viewers/managers. Maybe this saves the Mbytes spend above on eye candy.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 07:02    Post subject:  

Volhout

Thanks for testing!

With F2FS, I am aware that NO boot loader supports it yet, so I have built an installer that makes a 32M vFAT partition to boot from. You will find it in the Menu under Setup >> F2fs Installer - Flash Drives. There is a choice to do frugal or full, both experimental of course as f2fs itself is still experimental.

As for artwork, well, we try and keep it small. Hopefully someone will make a nice puplet. There are already a couple of nice ones based on 5.5 by Jejy69 and Tman.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 07:16    Post subject: eye candy  

Dear 01Micko,

I would not wait for a puplet to add the eye candy. Your product is going to be at Distrowatch. Your product is the one that drives puppy. Unless the named puplet is introduced at distro watch (like Macpup) the thing you are working on is the face of puppy for the rest of the world. I think there are not many people that dive into the ubuntu forums to see what beautiful versions are created by users. They will judge the 13.04 that is released mainstream. Same for Puppy. Please, make it shine !! Some of the beautiful versions on the eye candy thread do not even add a lot of stuff. It is a carefull selection of wallpaper, themes, font etc....

As for the F2FS... that is exactly the menu item I used. And it gave me the error message about the syslinux version, and asked me if I would like to upgrade to a newer syslinux. I stopped there.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 07:32    Post subject:  

Volhout,

As for eye candy, this is an "official" puppy, Barry sets the parameter for that, JWM (possibly open-box), ROX-Filer and as small as possible. I think we have a decent selection of wallpapers and icons, plus jwm and gtk themes. Of course it does not please every body but like I said, small is a pre requisite, I have to respect that. Puppy is an independent distro, still in the top 10 at Distrowatch, so while you may (or maybe not Smile ) see it as "ugly", many people do not.

I see what what you mean with f2fs installer, but maybe the message is not clear enough (I know English is not your native tongue Wink ). It will still install with the default. If you choose "No" at that stage you can install syslinux from Slackware repository and enable multiple puppies on your drive. As I said, it is a bit experimental and really for advanced users to play with; that said, it is still a revolutionary development.

Thanks for your comment!

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 07:45    Post subject: native language
Subject description: english
 

We do share a "native language" though .... It has 6 strings.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 07:49    Post subject:  

perhaps I should have written it in B♭ (bad joke Razz )
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 08:47    Post subject:  no cd
Subject description: no f2fs
 

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 09:02    Post subject:  no cd
Subject description: no f2fs
 



f2fs create on 4G SD card
- Gparted would only format the 33 Mbytes (smallest = 33, 32 is not allowed) in FAT16.
- f2fs for the other 3.9 Gig.

Installer script went quite some time, and then wanted a CD.... Blaim on me, I did not read that part of the description. Will burn a CD tonight.
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