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edoc


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2015, 21:48    Post subject:  

KVM is pretty amazing!

I need to backup & purge this HP Pavilion g7 - clean reload - then set up KVM ... really handy for the multiple purposes I'd like to serve with this laptop!

Thanks!

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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 09:17    Post subject:  

Hi.

What kind of format is the file: initrd.xz?

How do I open this to edit its content?

Thanks

Edit:

Sorry, found the init-editor script right now.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 07:13    Post subject:  

I have now updated my Edit-Initrdgz package from 1.4 to 1.5. It is now able to unpack and repack initrd.gz (like in default Puppies), initrd.xz (like in Lighthouse64) and initrd (like in FatDog64). Both, GUI and right-click Action, are now able to unpack and repack the files initrd, initrd.gz and initrd.xz.
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chillinfart

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 14:40    Post subject:  

I replaced Slacko 5.7 to Lighthouse 64 few days ago, after a disaster with CUDA Toolkit that nuked Slacko (f*** you Nvidia). Well, i have four questions:

- I tried to activate Uxa acceleration for my netbook (that has an Intel Atom N450), but system resets card options at restart (even modifying xorg.conf manually). Which script handles xorg.conf behavior?
- How i remove spot references on Firefox? I changed builtin FF 22 to FF 34 but i got permission errors on downloads when are redirected to other directory than /root/spot/downloads. I changed a reference on defaultbrowser, but isn't enough.
- How i can add x86 app compatibility (i.e. i used jnettop for networking audit and has no x64 version)?
- And i'm not sure about LH nature. Is more Slackware than Fatdog or is more Fatdog than Slackware (to find packages)?

In the other hand, nouveau driver runs nice in my Nvidia Geforce 210 (on desktop system), a big difference with Slacko.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jan 2015, 03:13    Post subject:  

chillinfart wrote:
I replaced Slacko 5.7 to Lighthouse 64 few days ago, after a disaster with CUDA Toolkit that nuked Slacko (f*** you Nvidia). Well, i have four questions:

- I tried to activate Uxa acceleration for my netbook (that has an Intel Atom N450), but system resets card options at restart (even modifying xorg.conf manually). Which script handles xorg.conf behavior?
- How i remove spot references on Firefox? I changed builtin FF 22 to FF 34 but i got permission errors on downloads when are redirected to other directory than /root/spot/downloads. I changed a reference on defaultbrowser, but isn't enough.
- How i can add x86 app compatibility (i.e. i used jnettop for networking audit and has no x64 version)?
- And i'm not sure about LH nature. Is more Slackware than Fatdog or is more Fatdog than Slackware (to find packages)?

In the other hand, nouveau driver runs nice in my Nvidia Geforce 210 (on desktop system), a big difference with Slacko.


1. The kernel modules in LH are not up to date. As far as Xorg.conf, you can edit it manually or create new rules in usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d. For example, I added a new file "20-fbdev.conf' there:
Quote:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "fbdev"
Option "ShadowFB" "false"
Option "Backingstore" "true"
Endsection

Just adding the option to Xorg.conf was completely ignored by the server.

2. On firefox, I removed the entire usr/lib64/firefox directory and loaded firefox34 as an sfs (Don't delete, trashbin it and then empty trash. Better yet, remove it in initrd/pup_rw and pup_ro1). If you want, you can just replace it with the new (adds about 85m to your savefile). It will run as spot or root with no other changes. For permissions outside of spot's folder, you have to erase the "-spot" from "firefox-spot" in the default programs gui in setup/setup lighthouse/ in the menu.
3. not too up to speed with networking, especially under technology much past 2005 ( and yes, that's ad and not bc!)
4. The build is slackware 14.0. It can be upgraded in whole or part with slap-get and g-slapt. Other than some applications and the kernel, what is most from fatdog was the 64 bit capability. There was a 32 bit Lighthouse back in the day very much resembling LazyPuppy, which is a pretty amazing distro itself.

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jan 2015, 06:19    Post subject:  

Hello @ChillinFart

FIREFOX
Firefox is rather easy in LightHouse. You go Menu>Internet>Firefox Update Help.

This is a Firefox (FF) implementation design to run on your desktop at root user level. This, then, allows you to update, add extensions, download anywhere in your filesystem, etc.

To update FF, this will be done automatically for you by following the above steps. OR, you can open the FF browser, go to Help then about ... to have it automatically launch. I am running at FF35 as of yesterday morn.

There are lots of other gem utilities that the author scattered all over in this amazing distro.

x86 Compatibility
For this, there is WINE builtin, OOTB. This assumes you are using LightHouse's Mariner version and NOT the Base version. You can find Mariner here.

Hope this helps.
Edited: the 4th sentence for better clarity

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chillinfart

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jan 2015, 16:22    Post subject:  

Yes, i got Mariner version and Wine SFS.

About Firefox the problem is with Flashgot, that can redirect downloads to Wget or another application, seeing permission error. Firefox replacement obey to a language change (Spanish)


And other question. Someone tried to compile CudaMiner on Puppy (not only LH)?
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Apr 2015, 12:19    Post subject: Evince not Working
Subject description: DJVU Error
 

Any idea why the RollApp Evince app generates this error when I try to open a DJVU file, please?

Quote:
bash-4.1# (evince:18463): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.lockdown' is not installed
sh: syntax error near unexpected token `:'
<root> ~
bash-4.1#
<root> ~
bash-4.1# Trace/breakpoint trap
sh: Trace/breakpoint: No such file or directory
<root> ~

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Apr 2015, 15:06    Post subject: LH 64 Loading Slowly  

At the x-windows stage the loading of LH 64 lags, sometimes as long as 5+ minutes.

Questions:

1. What might this be signaling that I can fix?

2. Could this mean that LH 64 has been corrupted & needs to be reloaded?

3. Is LH reaching EOL due to changes in browsers & other apps?

NOTE: I'm loading via a small USB stick due to UEFI problems (HP Pavilion g7.

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partsman

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Apr 2015, 21:59    Post subject:  

Hi edoc
Idk for sure where your problem lies but one thing I thought worth mentioning is the big misconception that a linux is EOL "end of life"
outdated etc.
This simply is not true !
If your happy with your linux system and it does what you need and works well with you hardware then don't abandon it !
There are loads of people still running ubuntu lucid and and even much earlier linux !
We are not running windows here ! Wink
As far as your issue goes Confused
I have used lighthouse before ! Its very feature packed and alot of things happen at startup !
Desktop loads , startup sounds , applets , taskbars ,etc !
Maybe to much at startup Wink
Seems in the past all was well for you Wink
What did you do recently to poss cause this ?
weather applet ?
GKrellM ?
startup sound ?
Just random thoughts Confused

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Apr 2015, 22:16    Post subject:  

It may be a hardware failure as it's been getting steadily worse for months.

I was hoping it was just a full buffer or something but haven't found it.

It's also becoming less stable - Firefox is crashing now and then - though I do often have about 20 tabs ....

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Apr 2015, 22:25    Post subject:  

If I remember correctly in the past you had video issues with lighthouse ! Confused
I assume its not the same issue ?
After the long startup does it seem to function ok ?
Aside from firefox crashing with 20 tabs open Laughing
Just thinking outloud here edoc Wink

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Apr 2015, 14:45    Post subject:  

Once it finally starts up it functions fine - other than the Firefox crashes.

It's a shame FF developers don't code a pop-up error explaining why their app crashed.

Something simple like "Ran out of buffer", "Too many open tabs for available resources", "Dependency conflict", etc.

The list of common problems cannot be too long.

If I am sending them crash data the least they could do is to share what their app is telling them - maybe I can do something local to resolve it.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jul 2015, 02:20    Post subject: Usbinstall disaster in 602b2Mariner
Subject description: booby traps and a hopeless ending with USBflash install
 

I've just spent more hours than I want to count installing lighthouse64 602b2 mariner to two CF cards, one 1GB, the other 2GB.

The exercise was booby trapped by the menus and instructions of both the Universal Installer and the USBflash installer, all of which I read and tried to follow, with disastrous results. It's too late to go into this now, at 01:42 in the morning. I'll give the details on avoiding these traps later in the week.

I did finally manage, after around ten "successful" installs that didn't boot, to get both cards to boot, but unless some major changes are made to the save scheme, I suggest you don't waste your time the way I did. Forget USBflash install for this distro.

Why - because, strangely, while you're allowed to save your save file to hdd when booting from the LiveCD, once you've installed to a flash device, you can only save your configurations and applications, and everything else you want to load at next boot, to the same USBflash device. My 1GB CF card had all of 287MB left to save on. Good luck with that!

Furthermore, when you boot from this little card, you wont' be able to remove it until the session is over. That will be handy when you need to load or save something from or to another flash card. Fergetaboutit!


I've booted Lupu 528 for years from a 256MB CF flash card. It didn't even have space for the lupuplus sfs. But it didn't matter, because the loader looked on the hard drive for the appropriate sfs, loaded it into RAM, then listed all of the save files available for loading on the hard drives, and I could almost immediately remove the boot device itself.


So I'm sure this is a problem that can be solved easily and quickly, assuming that it was created as an oversight, and not as a deliberate obstacle...

There were some problems in performance too. The Invidia driver that I loaded kept popping up a message saying it was found, but not installed, telling me to restart X over and over.

In LDXE (?) and the other acronymic WM, drop down menus were unusable, because they would disappear before you could even read them. They worked in Openbox and JWM though. But these are teething problems. The Universal and flash installers, OTOH, have been a thorn in the side for years. And I thought things were improving...

Lots of eye candy, and possibly lots of functionality, but that's no substitute for a solid base. I guess I could wear out my patience and my burner and keep booting from the LiveCD (where I can have a fast hdd based save file as big as I need and SFSs that load in seconds into RAM) but I'll wait until the flash save option is fixed before I experiment further.

Not being a coder, I depend on the good will of those who are. So a distro that only supports the needs of the majority or the in crowd is something I want to avoid.

But I shall be back with a description of what to avoid like the devil in the flash installation menus, and what happens if you don't.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jul 2015, 07:39    Post subject: Re: Usbinstall disaster in 602b2Mariner
Subject description: booby traps and a hopeless ending with USBflash install
 

otropogo wrote:
Why - because, strangely, while you're allowed to save your save file to hdd when booting from the LiveCD, once you've installed to a flash device, you can only save your configurations and applications, and everything else you want to load at next boot, to the same USBflash device.

Use ISObooter and the instructions on page 10. Change "initrd.gz" to "initrd.xz".
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