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Lighthouse 64 602 Beta2 with GIMP-2.8.4 (6-29-2013)
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partsman

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2014, 00:05    Post_subject:  

Hi gcmartin Very Happy
Thanks for the reply Very Happy
I have LHP running frugal install ext4 HDD Wink
Very impressive ! I must say Cool
Allow me to rephrase Wink
Are the pets found under LHP Update used "in addition too" or "in place of" the SFS files found in the MARINER ISO ? Confused

Example: if a new version of say java is in the LHP update as a pet
well then should i unload the SFS file of java that was on the mariner iso ?
or use both ?

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jun 2014, 09:47    Post_subject:  

Hello all Very Happy
Also wanted to note that KDE desktop will load but when I click the launcher "star" it causes system to lock-up Confused
Here is my system specs I have mariner frugal installed on Ext4 hdd.
Processor
Processor Intel Pentium T4400 (2.2 GHz)
Memory Cache 1024 KB

Memory
Installed Memory 3 GB

Hard Drive
Hard Drive 320 GB

Disk Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD±R Dual Layer/DVD±RW/CD-RW

Display
Display Size 15.6"
Video Card Intel GMA 4500M
I should add that I have had KDE Linux on this machine before with no problems !

OK sorry dummy me skipped right over this in the release notes :
Before installing the KDE4 SFS, copy and paste this into a terminal:
rm -f /root/.kde/Autostart/pup_event
KDE is now working fine ! Embarassed

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zaivala

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 00:13    Post_subject: Increase sr0 filesize  

I started up Lighthouse Mariner 602b2 after a long time idle, and it gave me a bunch of updates to make... and before I was halfway done, my sr0 file got full. How do I increase the size of this file? Believe it or not, the Search function in this form is of no help.

OK, apparently stupid me did not recognize that sr0 is the CD/DVD drive. So why is the update trying to write to that? No clue. However... if I recall correctly I'm running an Nvidia system. (need 300 Mb, have 289) I'm told that I am some number of Mb short of what it needs to download the driver. I suppose I can leave it alone since it is working now... But I think my system file needs to be made larger, and can't figure out how to do that. Any help in both understanding and accomplishing this is appreciated.

Edited to add: This is really interesting. The system thought it was writing to sr0, which is a CD. And over half the updates got done!

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 10:18    Post_subject:  

I believe that you want:

Menu --> Utility --> Archiving Utiliities --> Resize Personal Storage File

HTH ... David

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 10:30    Post_subject: Firefox - Is it Safe to Upgrade?  

I use more than one browser with LH64 & Firefox is one of them.

I'm receiving pop-ups stating it's time to upgrade to 30.0 or something like that.

I seem to recall a warning here a while back against upgrading - is that still so?

If it's now recommended to upgrade is the best method to do so inside Firefox?

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 10:33    Post_subject: LH64 - Security Updates?  

While I'm on the update/upgrade train ...

There have been stories about some security holes in pieces of Linux - all of them due to not keeping up with update releases.

Since LH64 602 Beta2 is getting a bit long in the tooth are there updates we should be making to any pieces of it?

Will such manual updates risk breaking anything?

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zaivala

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 12:33    Post_subject:  

edoc wrote:
I believe that you want:

Menu --> Utility --> Archiving Utiliities --> Resize Personal Storage File

HTH ... David


I did that, and got...

Sorry, Lighthouse64 is not currently using a personal
persistent storage file. If this is the first time that you booted
Lighthouse64, say from a live-CD, you are currently running
totally in RAM and you will be asked to create a personal
storage file when you end the session (shutdown the PC or
reboot). Note, the file will be named L64save.3fs and
will be created in a place that you nominate.

If you have installed Lighthouse64 to hard drive, or installed
such that personal storage is an entire partition, then you will
not have a L64save.3fs file either.

Press OK to exit...
\
I do have a 3fs save file... now what?

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 13:39    Post_subject:  

Hello @Zaivala
zaivala wrote:
... I do have a 3fs save file
Questions
  • What is the path of our file?
  • How are you booting (CD/Frugal)?
  • Might you have, on your last boot (system running now), chose "pfix=ram"

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 13:46    Post_subject:  

OK. Quite simply, I was wrong. I have worked with LH and Fatdog and Puppy and MacPup for so long, I simply could not believe I did not save it when I exited. But there it is, I did not save it. Oddly it is trying to save now, and is taking a REALLY long time...
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 15:59    Post_subject:  

Agreed, that occurs for me when I am in shutdown saving a session to a Live disc. Of course, there are other options which are much (USB) to much-much (HDD) to much-much-much (SDD) faster than saving to disc media. That phenomenon is a combination of how the shutdown subsystem formulates and writes the save-session material to DVD disc.

@Ted Dog, in his attempts to work with @Jamesbond to approach Live media disc writing of the session. In doing so, there is a great potential of reducing the time required in session saving time. The state of that work and discussion still remains missing clear information on improving save-session to disc media.

I live with it for 2 reasons:
  • I am aware that although it takes time, it will complete sucessfully
  • I rarely reboot after setup of the system...including when adding PETs
    to gain new/upgraded subsystems.
Hope this helps

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zaivala

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 16:53    Post_subject:  

Yes, it did get done. I'll try it again and see if I can get those updates.

I wonder why LH64 takes so much longer than Puppy (32-bit) to create the save file? Ah well. I'm here. Took a break from LH due to "life", that pesky little thing, but I'm back.

Edited to add: Part of the time it took could be due to the fact that I ignored warnings and did not have my drive defragged at the time. I keep it defragged most of the time, and could not imagine it was that bad, but when I went to defrag it later it took quite a while to defrag the LH save file.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 23:34    Post_subject:  

While working with Fatdog64 time may increase until a rare shutdown interaction is eliminated. JB can't reproduce and its hit and miss for me. But as JB shared the MS code has not changed and I confirmed as such but something causes a burp and causes a lost of saved data from being written.
I have rewrote the orginal MS code to save same data as done in 32bit versions uncompressed in dated folders but its a bolt on code for now and does not rise to the level of effort or scripts that Kirk and JB make. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul 2014, 23:42    Post_subject:  

Like wise is anyone maintaining LH or have its build system. It was a nice spin or pre done setup many people liked that shared a lot of compatibility with Fatdog64.
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zaivala

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jul 2014, 14:54    Post_subject:  

gcmartin seems to be taking the lead here, although I have no idea whether he has control over the distro. I'm not to hot on FatDog compatibility, as FatDog proved to be incompatible with *me*, whereas LM64Mb2 has pretty much done what I asked (with a lot of help) and acts more like a 32-bit Puppy.

My biggest issue is in add-ons -- if there is not an SFS file, I'm not that familiar with Slax/Slackware and don't know which Linux file to download, or how.

It would be nice to get this out of Beta. This is by far the best 64-bit Linux I've found that I can get to work.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2014, 10:22    Post_subject:  

Bumping what edoc said: Are we supposed to update Firefox, or not? It's getting pretty insistent that I do.
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