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#241 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:Thanks for the reminder that it's there & how it works - I looked at it once and it seemed too much like expressionistic-art to me ... ;-)

Anyhow, why would there be a bazillion .png files in root/.thumbnails/normal/ after I have just rebooted?

Why would ATI-13.4-HD567-k3.8.7-L64-1.pet be in root/.cache/lhp-update/ ?

And the other biggie: root/.cache/lhp-update/OpenJRE-7.40-IcedTea-x86_64-2.pet

Everything else is relatively small.

WDYT?
if its in /root/ its not deleted after reboot. thats EVERY thumbnail the system has created while browsing folders. Just delete the folder 'normal' and they'll go away. the system will re-create thumbnails when it needs to.
the pet files in /root/.cache/ you can move elsewhere in case you need them again.
I think its a backup for anything you've installed via the PPM.

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#242 Post by Sylvander »

gcmartin wrote:I have alway "started" with the Mariner ISO.
1. I made a new DVD+RW using "Lighthouse-6.02.B2_Mariner.iso".
Everything went well during the 1st boot, 1st shutdown, save, 2nd boot into 2nd session, 2nd shutdown with save.
I liked Mariner.
WINE worked just fine, and it seemed to have all I could need [except not Xfe].

2. At 3rd boot...
It took a looong time looking for the main file & session file[s].
Eventually it proceeded, but immediately warned of "Kernel panic", and halted at a flashing underscore.

Any ideas ? :?

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#243 Post by edoc »

Q5sys wrote: if its in /root/ its not deleted after reboot. thats EVERY thumbnail the system has created while browsing folders. Just delete the folder 'normal' and they'll go away. the system will re-create thumbnails when it needs to.
the pet files in /root/.cache/ you can move elsewhere in case you need them again.
I think its a backup for anything you've installed via the PPM.
Excellent info, thanks!

Is there any chance of adding an optional script to either put those outside of the Savefile when they are created (or symlink to them outside of the Savefile) - or at least to autodelete them at reboot?

The same for the PPM install files - if they are copied there for the sake of uninstall perhaps a symlink to a physical location outside of the Savefile will work?

Since I don't understand the reasons for any of them being left there I am making wild guesses as to what might work to displace or remove them ...
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#244 Post by tazoc »

edoc wrote:Is there any chance of adding an optional script to either put those outside of the Savefile when they are created (or symlink to them outside of the Savefile) - or at least to autodelete them at reboot?
Most thumbnails and browser cache files are removed at X startup. So close all windows and choose 'Restart X' from the Shutdown menu. If for some reason you need to keep X running, close all browser windows, click File icon (ROX-Filer) and click on etc -> rc.d -> pup-dip
(pup-dip is the script that empties the browser cache and thumbnail files.)
The same for the PPM install files - if they are copied there for the sake of uninstall perhaps a symlink to a physical location outside of the Savefile will work?

Since I don't understand the reasons for any of them being left there I am making wild guesses as to what might work to displace or remove them ...
The Pet files in /root/.cache/lhp-update were downloaded when installed in Lighthouse Update. The Update GUI allows browsing to, or deleting the Update cache. So click the Update icon on the desktop, then tick the checkbox in front of 'clear_cache' (usually is the 4th line) and click OK. If 'clear_cache' isn't there, then the cache is empty.
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#245 Post by edoc »

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Firefox 23.01?

#246 Post by edoc »

Firefox is offering a recommended update to 23.01 - I currently have 22.0

Their update did not work, although Internet access is otherwise working fine, so I'm not sure how to best proceed ... the Check for Updates choice merely takes me to a generic Firefox page with no automated Update option.

OR, should I do nothing as this update might create problems for LH64-602b?
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Re: Firefox 23.01?

#247 Post by tazoc »

edoc wrote:Firefox is offering a recommended update to 23.01 - I currently have 22.0
Hi David,
There is a workaround for updating Firefox in Lighthouse, found at menu -> Internet -> Firefox Update Help. It will (temporarily) start FF as root to enable the built-in updater. I used it to update to 23.01 and everything seems OK.
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Re: Firefox 23.01?

#248 Post by edoc »

tazoc wrote:
edoc wrote:Firefox is offering a recommended update to 23.01 - I currently have 22.0
Hi David,
There is a workaround for updating Firefox in Lighthouse, found at menu -> Internet -> Firefox Update Help. It will (temporarily) start FF as root to enable the built-in updater. I used it to update to 23.01 and everything seems OK.
Thanks!

BTW1: It updated fine ... after I increased my personal storage a little.

BTW2: It changed something in the defaults which has impacted Seamonkey - the font type and size has changed - larger and more bold. So far it helps me to read it without glasses so I am not complaining ... :roll:
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very very slow boot

#249 Post by Senza Vega »

Hello, first I apologize for my very bad English language.
Because of this, I can't document myself strongly, so I can't "read the F. manual". :wink:
I post here because I have the following problem: very slow start: more than 7 minutes,
which :
3 minutes from the copy in ram
and
3 minutes to load xwindows.
Otherwise, the distribution runs very well when loaded with KDE frugal installation.
The PC is a Asus Netbook F201E with 4Gb ram.
I hope you'll want help me.

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Simple ADB Backup on LH64-602b?

#250 Post by edoc »

Is there any chance that the Simple ADB Backup for Android phones would work with LH64-602b or will it only work with a 32-bit OS like Raring 3.9.9.2?

http://lifehacker.com/5976036/simple-ad ... t-required

I need it so that I can make a proper backup of my phone to local storage and I want to include files that normally require rooting the phone to access. (I transferred my wife's phone book via Bluetooth to my Galaxy Nexus phone but cannot get at the location where it was downloaded.)

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Multisession DVD; KDE boots slowly from USB key; ADB backup

#251 Post by tazoc »

Sylvander wrote:
gcmartin wrote:I have alway "started" with the Mariner ISO.
1. I made a new DVD+RW using "Lighthouse-6.02.B2_Mariner.iso".
Everything went well during the 1st boot, 1st shutdown, save, 2nd boot into 2nd session, 2nd shutdown with save.
I liked Mariner.
WINE worked just fine, and it seemed to have all I could need [except not Xfe].

2. At 3rd boot...
It took a looong time looking for the main file & session file[s].
Eventually it proceeded, but immediately warned of "Kernel panic", and halted at a flashing underscore.

Any ideas ? :?
If this is a desktop machine and you're saving sessions back to the DVD, be sure to choose Option 4 - 'Lighthouse64 with multisession support' on the 2nd and all succeeding boots. It should not be searching for files elsewhere as that option has 'pmedia=cd' which confines the search to optical media.

If this is a notebook or laptop, the scripts indicate multisession CD/DVD mode does not work.
Senza Vega wrote:I have the following problem: very slow start: more than 7 minutes,
which :
3 minutes from the copy in ram
and
3 minutes to load xwindows.
Otherwise, the distribution runs very well when loaded with KDE frugal installation.
The PC is a Asus Netbook F201E with 4Gb ram.
I hope you'll want help me.
Welcome and thanks for your feedback. Yes, booting KDE entirely from USB key or optical media is very slow. What I would do is to copy all of the .sfs files to hard disk, into the same location as your L64save file, including the main file, L64-602.sfs and all SFS add-ons, especially 5_KDE-4.6.5-x86_64-H.sfs. Then they should load much faster during boot up and at startup of X.
edoc wrote:Is there any chance that the Simple ADB Backup for Android phones would work with LH64-602b or will it only work with a 32-bit OS like Raring 3.9.9.2?

http://lifehacker.com/5976036/simple-ad ... t-required
I tried starting the 32-bit only 'HoloBackupLinux' as indicated by the ADB backup web page, after making it executable, but received an error 'Cannot open self' even though I have the Wine and 32-bit libs SFS loaded.

However, clicking on the Windows executable 'HoloBackup.exe' seems to open OK, though I do not have an Android 4.0+ phone to test with. It requires that the Wine-1.5.28-i486_602.sfs be loaded first with BootManager (Setup menu) or sfs_load on-the-fly. Keep in mind that ADB backup is a Beta release and can only restore backups to the same phone the backup was created from.
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Re: Multisession DVD; KDE boots slowly from USB key; ADB backup

#252 Post by Senza Vega »

tazoc wrote:
Senza Vega wrote:I have the following problem: very slow start: more than 7 minutes,
which :
3 minutes from the copy in ram
and
3 minutes to load xwindows.
Otherwise, the distribution runs very well when loaded with KDE frugal installation.
The PC is a Asus Netbook F201E with 4Gb ram.
I hope you'll want help me.
Welcome and thanks for your feedback. Yes, booting KDE entirely from USB key or optical media is very slow. What I would do is to copy all of the .sfs files to hard disk, into the same location as your L64save file, including the main file, L64-602.sfs and all SFS add-ons, especially 5_KDE-4.6.5-x86_64-H.sfs. Then they should load much faster during boot up and at startup of X.
Thanks Tazoc for your answer.
nothing is on my hard disk (it's a new notebook with W8 that I can't touch : warranty).
All is on the USB key : I don't undestand

another question, (I would abuse) : when I launch the script :

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fix-usb.sh /dev/sdc
the answer is :

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Partition 3 of /dev/sdc (/dev/sdc3) is not empty.
Aborting.
perhaps an idea ?

Thanks

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Re: Multisession DVD; KDE boots slowly from USB key; ADB backup

#253 Post by Sylvander »

1.
tazoc wrote:If this is a desktop machine and you're saving sessions back to the DVD, be sure to choose Option 4 - 'Lighthouse64 with multisession support' on the 2nd and all succeeding boots.
a. It IS a desktop machine.

b. I was trying to save the sessions back to the DVD; and those saves apparently succeeded.

c. I most certainly did: "choose Option 4 - 'Lighthouse64 with multisession support' on the 2nd and all succeeding boots".

2. Must go try that DVD once again to see if it's still behaving the same as before.
How should I tell it to not use the 2nd save?

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Re: Multisession DVD; KDE boots slowly from USB key; ADB backup

#254 Post by edoc »

tazoc wrote:
edoc wrote:Is there any chance that the Simple ADB Backup for Android phones would work with LH64-602b or will it only work with a 32-bit OS like Raring 3.9.9.2?

http://lifehacker.com/5976036/simple-ad ... t-required
I tried starting the 32-bit only 'HoloBackupLinux' as indicated by the ADB backup web page, after making it executable, but received an error 'Cannot open self' even though I have the Wine and 32-bit libs SFS loaded.

However, clicking on the Windows executable 'HoloBackup.exe' seems to open OK, though I do not have an Android 4.0+ phone to test with. It requires that the Wine-1.5.28-i486_602.sfs be loaded first with BootManager (Setup menu) or sfs_load on-the-fly. Keep in mind that ADB backup is a Beta release and can only restore backups to the same phone the backup was created from.
I found these helpful sites, in case someone else is looking at this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... p=36499906
http://www.howtogeek.com/125375/how-to- ... ur-device/

It turns out that it NextApp WebSharing works better for my purposes - I just need to buy the $2.99 pro version - but was trying not to give my credit card number to google wallet as it's not really secure.

Thanks!
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#255 Post by edoc »

Ooops ... needed to post this to the Raring thread ...
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#256 Post by ICPUG »

I have a query relating to usage of Lighthouse Puppy. I am actually using the 32-bit version but I suspect the same thing would apply to the 64 bit version and this seems to be the thread that is read!

When I boot Lighthouse on my machine with an ethernet cable attached to an always on modem router it automatically connects to the Internet. I can, of course, disconnect by right clicking the network icon in the tray and selecting disconnect.

Is there a way of starting up in the disconnect state, preferably without connecting first and then automatically disconnecting? Ideally, I would like the network icon to be there so that I can right click and connect when I DO want to go on the internet.

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#257 Post by Sylvander »

1. Booted my multi-session DVD+RW of "Lighthouse64-6.02_Mariner".
Used menu item 4 for multi-session support.

2. Was surprised to find when it got to the desktop, that I was being asked to make config choices for language, region, screen area etc.
That reminded me that I hadn't seen it being reported during the boot, that save folders had been found, and were being used.
i.e. No save folders being used.
So...

3. Made the necessary configurations, and went to shutdown/reboot.
During shutdown, told it to save to CD, and that seemed to be happening, BUT...

4. At next boot [after choosing menu item 4 again], no save folders were found, and yet again I was presented with the old desktop, with configurations asked for.
So...

5. Made all the config choices, shutdown/reboot, save to CD...
And during boot, this time chose the menu item for 1st run.
Went through all of the necessary yet again, saved to CD at shutdown/reboot.
During boot, chose item 4 on the menu...
Still not seeking/finding save folders, still asking for config choices! :(

6. Seems it's NOT SAVING when told to!

By-the-way...
Perhaps the reason it wouldn't boot previously was caused by faulty hardware.
About that time [just after], this 2012 desktop began to fail to complete the POST!
Then after leaving it to rest for a time, it began functioning normally once more, and hasn't given any trouble since.
Ghosts in the hardware? :?
It began with the failure to boot Lighthouse64 [1st symptom?], and the following improper power-off.

gcmartin

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#258 Post by gcmartin »

HI @Sylvander.

Could you mount and take a look at your DVD? Is there any files that have a current date on the DVD (look for dates since you created your DVD)?

If not, sounds like, just maybe, the system is not writing to your DVD. If you do NOT see any currently dated files, next time you reboot;
1. Indicate to "Save" the session
2. and look at your DVD drive. The drive should flash continuously before eject/reboot.

If you do, indeed, have newly dated files, on the next reboot, do nothing and allow the system to boot without any operation by you. Watch your on-screen messages prior to the on-screen pause for SFS options. You should/may see the system finding and loading your save-session files.

There are several other members who run DVD based Lighthouse64. Is/has anyone else having similar problems as is reported by Sylvander? Clues anyone.

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#259 Post by Sylvander »

@gcmartin
1. There are NO SAVE FOLDERS on the DVD.
No dates on folders or any with names suggesting they are save folders.

2. I failed to, and aught to have mentioned that at shutdown/reboot...
I think after I told it to SAVE...
It was reported that something [/tmp/dvdmntpt] was read only.
The drive opened and closed in an attempt to write to the thing I guess, and then reported it was read-only.
Oh, silly me! :oops:
The disk I've been booting is a CD-RW, which has probably been automatically closed when the disk was burned.
That explains the problem methinks!

3. I notice I have an ordinary verion of Lighthouse [not Mariner] burned to a DVD+RW.
I'll boot that and see what I get, and report back ASAP.
a. 1st boot was OK; made config changes and rebooted, with OK save.
b. 2nd boot was OK; made some further changes and rebooted, with yet another OK save.
c. 3rd boot was NOT OK; it was reading the 2nd save folder without end.
Eventually I gave up waiting, rebooted into Slacko-5.5.91-ataflash, and took a look at the contents of the DVD+RW.
The 2 save folders looked OK.
d. Might there be conflict because I did the following?
Downloaded and installed PET-file updates for programs that are loaded from SFS files.
I don't understand how that works.

4. I'll make a new burn of "Lighthouse64-6.02-B2_Mariner.iso" to the same DVD+RW, and NOT do those installs.

gcmartin

#260 Post by gcmartin »

@Sylvander
CD-RW; that's it!

JamesBond has stated. somewhat emphatically, that the "new" save-session utility will ONLY write to multi-session DVDs and NOT CDs.

I think I may have tested and found this to have been correct when FATDOG V6 was introduced. And, as such, LH64 uses similar technology as FATDOG in its design.

You may want to make a multi-session DVD of the LH64 ISO you intend to be your mainstay. After which, you should have smooth sailing.

Thinking is, this should solve the problem you have, as, it is a disc media issue by design.

@Others in this thread
I, too, have had a recent problem when I tried to save a 3rd save-session to my running Mariner DVD. Symptoms are a little different but it happens that my system refused to write a 3rd save to the disc media without any error message. Hummm???

Ideas, anyone.
Hope this helps
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