Lighthouse 64 602 Beta2 with GIMP-2.8.4 (6-29-2013)

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#226 Post by Q5sys »

Anyone have any luck in setting up a pptp vpn inside lighthouse64?

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#227 Post by edoc »

CatDude wrote:Hello edoc
edoc wrote:...
10. Back to the top toolbar choose File -> Export, then on the file type pop-up (located just above Save) choose GBR (GIMP Brush), change the Spacing to 25, then save to: /usr/local/gimp/2.0/brushes
Are you sure about that path :?:
as it does not exist here.
Ooops! :oops:

/usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes

CatDude wrote:
Try putting your brush in /root/.gimp-2.8/brushes
then fire up GIMP and see if it is in the Brushes.
edoc wrote: The copyright watermark looks like a checkerboard with hard to read text.
CatDude wrote: It's meant to look like that.
edoc wrote:...
I don't know how to impose this on a picture.
CatDude wrote: Select the Paintbrush Tool,
then use your brush to paint on your image.

Or you could paint it onto a transparent layer (above your main image),
which would allow you to adjust the opacity.
CatDude
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I just tried that but don't see where I can view saved Brushes (which is a very confusing term for this in the first place).
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Lost of LAN when laptop awakens after an overnight sleep

#228 Post by gcmartin »

I had posted earlier of the lost of LAN navigation when the laptop has been asleep, then awakened when the cover opens next morning. I have the ethernet LAN operating over the LAN cable when this occurs.

When the problem is seen, I have using the tray icon to disconnect, then re-acquire the IP. Specifically, the Ethernet interface is active, and the laptop can DHCP for a local address, but, upon re-acquiring the LAN IP, it still will NOT navigate the LAN or the internet. (an example of LAN navigation is the Ping command). IT CANT ROUTE the local LAN after acquiring the IP from the DHCP server!

Additional Questions
  1. Anyone using LH64 on their laptop? If so, anyone else close its covers at night, then open it the next morning?
  2. Any ideas on the problem or any ideas of support information which can shine the light on the problem?
If you have a laptop which has hibernated with LH602 and the problem has NOT occurred please indicate that, as well.

Thanks for any insights.

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#229 Post by edoc »

I could try it here but am guessing every laptop is unique ...

I never leave a laptop powered on when not in use - too many potential hazards:

Power surge, lightning, or static damage

Trojan/virus activity (surely they can write one that fakes hibernation then powers-up and runs).

Component stress if sleep mode isn't deep enough & the environment is marginal.

I like the theoretical value of cleared buffers and caps from a long power-down.

QUESTION: Why not just power-off overnight?
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#230 Post by CatDude »

Hi

@ edoc
edoc wrote:
CatDude wrote: Select the Paintbrush Tool,
then use your brush to paint on your image.

Or you could paint it onto a transparent layer (above your main image),
which would allow you to adjust the opacity.
CatDude
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I just tried that but don't see where I can view saved Brushes (which is a very confusing term for this in the first place).
See pic

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#231 Post by Sylvander »

1. I've made a multi-session DVD+RW of "Lighthouse64-6.02-B2.iso"...
Typing this from it.

2. Having problems saving, as follows:
When I click the "Save..." icon on the desktop...
I get a warning window offering 2 choices [of which I have little understanding of either choice.
I normally choose the left button...
To write to a new/blank DVD.
a. Once, it then didn't write anything, but instantly aborted.
b. Usually it DOES write to the blank DVD+RW, and that [2nd] disk will then boot successfully.
But without the latest save methinks.
c. The 1st disk is nowhere near full [5% occupied?]
So how come the failure to write to the 1st disk?
Why the warning, and the demand for a new disk?

3. I wanted to install WINE [it's essential to my needs].
I use it to run my Windows exe of "Acerose Password Vault", that I've used for YEARS, and holds ALL of my URL's, usernames, passwords, securityinfo, etc.
Including my online banking info; I'll probably want to use this disk [with this particular Lighthouse version] as an online banking disk.
When using for normal/general use...
I want to be able to use Lighthouse with autosaving disabled, and you said to me that the ability to disable this [and have it persist from session to session indefinitely] will be included in the next release.
Until then, I can natively get that feature [the ability to choose at least] by using this version on a multi-session optical disk.
No extra work needed = NICE! :D

a. So I could only find an SFS version of WINE HERE.
Tried it as an SFS loaded at startup, and that worked, but I had to configure it for use EVERY TIME!
Too much work!
So...

b. I used Sfs Grabber to install it.
I believe that's when the "Save..." problems began. :(

4. Any idea what's going wrong?
Any fix?
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#232 Post by Senza Vega »

Thanks for this Puppy.
Works great for me on my Asus laptop F201E
Boot on USB key and save on "data partition" of windows 8 :D

I just regret the absence of cairo-dock that I like. (if someone get news about that..).

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#233 Post by edoc »

CatDude wrote: See pic
CatDude
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Now that I know where to look (right side tool window among the smudges) it's a horizontal collection of blurry dots ... unless I mouse-over and see the pop-up detail there is no intuitive way to know what it is.

Also, to move the "brush" from dead center to another location on the picture requires the left side toolbar, then notice the small print instructions that vaguely implies that one must hold the Shift key then use the mouse to move it.

Anyhow, this is what my poorly-made copyright watermark looks like when imposed on a picture:

http://nevils-station.com/images/misc1/ ... pw-sm1.jpg

I have to walk through the process again so that it's a watermark vs black letters, to get the "(c)" aligned with my name, and to get the URL closer to my name - perhaps with a line between them.

It's a start & I sure appreciate the heads-up to get past some of the non-intuiitive GIMP methodology.
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#234 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:I could try it here but am guessing every laptop is unique ...

I never leave a laptop powered on when not in use - too many potential hazards:

Power surge, lightning, or static damage

Trojan/virus activity (surely they can write one that fakes hibernation then powers-up and runs).

Component stress if sleep mode isn't deep enough & the environment is marginal.

I like the theoretical value of cleared buffers and caps from a long power-down.

QUESTION: Why not just power-off overnight?
Dont forget if a person has automount turned on, there are trojans that work just by simply being plugged in. I dont recall any off the top of my head for linux, but its therotically possible.
While that possibility is limited, Id focus more on shortening the life of the onboard Power Caps. Sitting charged for hours and hours on end without use will over time cuase them to fail prematurely.

As to why, I think gc is a live media user, so the boot time is probably the reason he chooses to hibernate into ram instead of having to boot from the DVD every morning. DVD load times are annoyingly slow.
I could be wrong though, only he knows his reasons.

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#235 Post by gcmartin »

Sylvander wrote:1. I've made a multi-session DVD+RW of "Lighthouse64-6.02-B2.iso"...
@Sylvander, I have only used LIve media, just as you are doing. with constant success over the years with Lighthouse.

Here's a brief explanation that may help you.

I have alway "started" with the Mariner ISO. Reason: It comprises the base and contains may useful subsystems that I can select at boot-time. Wine is in there! with little need for you to do anything. And, of those subsystems (SFSs) I get to pick and choose those which will match my system needs.

Next, in all cases, I have used the Shutdown/Reboot approach for saving sessions to the LIve media (the DVD). Works without failure. But, I can see why you would need to save-session, during the running of your Lighthouse. So, I have NOT experienced that failure you describe.

Questions
Do you have a save-file on HDD/USB that might be interfering with system decision on where to place the save? Or is this the very first time you are doing a save after booting, say, from pfix=ram?

Hope this helps

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#236 Post by Sylvander »

@gcmartin
1. "I have alway "started" with the Mariner ISO"
Seems I should do that also. :D

2. "in all cases, I have used the Shutdown/Reboot approach for saving sessions to the LIve media (the DVD)"
I did that too, but got the same bad result as when using the "Save..." icon on the desktop. :(

3. "Do you have a save-file on HDD/USB that might be interfering with system decision on where to place the save?"
No.
No save file or SFS file or any other file for any version of Lighthouse.
Neither on the internal HDD nor any connected USB drive.

4. "is this the very first time you are doing a save after booting, say, from pfix=ram?"
a. The 1st time I ran the DVD+RW->Lighthouse, at the menu, I chose the menu option for multi-session 1st time run.
Then...
b. Second and subsequent runs, I chose the option that provided multi-session-support.
I think the 2nd shutdown was OK.
It was the 3rd shutdown where the save failed.

gcmartin

#237 Post by gcmartin »

Sylvander wrote: a. The 1st time I ran the DVD+RW->Lighthouse, at the menu, I chose the menu option for multi-session 1st time run.
Then...
b. Second and subsequent runs, I chose the option that provided multi-session-support.
I think the 2nd shutdown was OK.
It was the 3rd shutdown where the save failed.
What you share is same as what I do. I just looked and I have only rebooted twice on this system (there are only 2 "dated" save-session files on the media). I will clean up and shutdown to reboot.

Let you know results when I reboot system.

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Memory Leak?

#238 Post by edoc »

I have observed the Personal Storage space in my HP Pavilion g7 laptop disappearing to red.

Even if I close everything and wait the memory remains unavailable - only a reboot restores it to green.

Here's what was open just now when this happened and made me blue: ;-)

Firefox with multiple windows.

Seamonkey with multiple windows and email.

LibreOffice with two documents (one contained several pictures of various sizes between 100 and 500k).

Two ROX-filer windows with thumbnails activated and in large icon mode.
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Re: Memory Leak?

#239 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:I have observed the Personal Storage space in my HP Pavilion g7 laptop disappearing to red.

Even if I close everything and wait the memory remains unavailable - only a reboot restores it to green.

Here's what was open just now when this happened and made me blue: ;-)

Firefox with multiple windows.

Seamonkey with multiple windows and email.

LibreOffice with two documents (one contained several pictures of various sizes between 100 and 500k).

Two ROX-filer windows with thumbnails activated and in large icon mode.
Right click on the freespace icon in the task manager bar. Choose "map of storage used"
take a look at the directories that show the most crap in them. Each Block is a file which are grouped by directory.
Then manually go into those directories to delete them or if its cache space, clear the cache in a browser.

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#240 Post by edoc »

Thanks for the reminder that it's there & how it works - I looked at it once and it seemed too much like expressionistic-art to me ... ;-)

Anyhow, why would there be a bazillion .png files in root/.thumbnails/normal/ after I have just rebooted?

Why would ATI-13.4-HD567-k3.8.7-L64-1.pet be in root/.cache/lhp-update/ ?

And the other biggie: root/.cache/lhp-update/OpenJRE-7.40-IcedTea-x86_64-2.pet

Everything else is relatively small.

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#241 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:Thanks for the reminder that it's there & how it works - I looked at it once and it seemed too much like expressionistic-art to me ... ;-)

Anyhow, why would there be a bazillion .png files in root/.thumbnails/normal/ after I have just rebooted?

Why would ATI-13.4-HD567-k3.8.7-L64-1.pet be in root/.cache/lhp-update/ ?

And the other biggie: root/.cache/lhp-update/OpenJRE-7.40-IcedTea-x86_64-2.pet

Everything else is relatively small.

WDYT?
if its in /root/ its not deleted after reboot. thats EVERY thumbnail the system has created while browsing folders. Just delete the folder 'normal' and they'll go away. the system will re-create thumbnails when it needs to.
the pet files in /root/.cache/ you can move elsewhere in case you need them again.
I think its a backup for anything you've installed via the PPM.

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#242 Post by Sylvander »

gcmartin wrote:I have alway "started" with the Mariner ISO.
1. I made a new DVD+RW using "Lighthouse-6.02.B2_Mariner.iso".
Everything went well during the 1st boot, 1st shutdown, save, 2nd boot into 2nd session, 2nd shutdown with save.
I liked Mariner.
WINE worked just fine, and it seemed to have all I could need [except not Xfe].

2. At 3rd boot...
It took a looong time looking for the main file & session file[s].
Eventually it proceeded, but immediately warned of "Kernel panic", and halted at a flashing underscore.

Any ideas ? :?

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#243 Post by edoc »

Q5sys wrote: if its in /root/ its not deleted after reboot. thats EVERY thumbnail the system has created while browsing folders. Just delete the folder 'normal' and they'll go away. the system will re-create thumbnails when it needs to.
the pet files in /root/.cache/ you can move elsewhere in case you need them again.
I think its a backup for anything you've installed via the PPM.
Excellent info, thanks!

Is there any chance of adding an optional script to either put those outside of the Savefile when they are created (or symlink to them outside of the Savefile) - or at least to autodelete them at reboot?

The same for the PPM install files - if they are copied there for the sake of uninstall perhaps a symlink to a physical location outside of the Savefile will work?

Since I don't understand the reasons for any of them being left there I am making wild guesses as to what might work to displace or remove them ...
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#244 Post by tazoc »

edoc wrote:Is there any chance of adding an optional script to either put those outside of the Savefile when they are created (or symlink to them outside of the Savefile) - or at least to autodelete them at reboot?
Most thumbnails and browser cache files are removed at X startup. So close all windows and choose 'Restart X' from the Shutdown menu. If for some reason you need to keep X running, close all browser windows, click File icon (ROX-Filer) and click on etc -> rc.d -> pup-dip
(pup-dip is the script that empties the browser cache and thumbnail files.)
The same for the PPM install files - if they are copied there for the sake of uninstall perhaps a symlink to a physical location outside of the Savefile will work?

Since I don't understand the reasons for any of them being left there I am making wild guesses as to what might work to displace or remove them ...
The Pet files in /root/.cache/lhp-update were downloaded when installed in Lighthouse Update. The Update GUI allows browsing to, or deleting the Update cache. So click the Update icon on the desktop, then tick the checkbox in front of 'clear_cache' (usually is the 4th line) and click OK. If 'clear_cache' isn't there, then the cache is empty.
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#245 Post by edoc »

Thanks!
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