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#31 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello SlackerPup,

In the first post I said that the Skype package has been "combined with" dependency libraries which means that the dependency libraries have been included. Sorry if that was a little unclear, but the idea is that you should be able to install just this one package and it should all work.

I take it you are running Puppy as Live CD with a save-file somewhere?

For Slacko 5.7 you should try the slacko14.0 Skype .pet package.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/skype-4. ... ko14.0.pet
Just download it and click on it to install.
Or you could load the .sfs version instead if you want to use less save-file space.

@ redandwhitestripes
I do know that Microsoft have recently made some changes to the Skype system so some features may no longer be working.

As you can read in the above posts, they have now released a newer Skype for Linux which is intended to offer a fix, but it will not work in Puppy because alsa is disabled and pulseaudio is needed. Puppy does not ship with pulseaudio and I do not know if it can be easily installed or if Puppy users would want to do that anyway.
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#32 Post by baszek »

For precise 5.7.1 I should use 4.2.0.13 pet from http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/ ?
Somehow my 4.2.0.11 skype stopped working - can't connect during login, I get some connection warning.

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#33 Post by snayak »

Same here.

My skype 4.0.0.8 (on fatdog 64) also stopped working (login failed) from today.

Now we have to go for skype 4.3.0.37.

How to make skype 4.3.0.37 for 64bit fatdog?
Any idea?

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#34 Post by saintless »

Edit: Does not work anymore since 08.08.2014

For anyone using older versions like Skype 2.1 and Skype 2.2:
Starting skype with this script works for me every time to login.
Name it start-skype for example:

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#!/bin/bash

rm -f /root/.Skype/shared.lck
rm -f /root/.Skype/shared.xml
rm -fr /root/.Skype/shared_httpfe
rm -fr /root/.Skype/shared_dynco
skype
Move it in /usr/bin and type start-skype in terminal. Make sure to quit Skype before running start-skype again. Logout is not enough.

This doesn't work for Skype 4.2
Last edited by saintless on Fri 08 Aug 2014, 15:02, edited 1 time in total.

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#35 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello saintless,

Thanks for the tip. I have just tried it and it does work. You have to click to accept the licence at each start-up but that is a very minor thing.

I have made a modified version of Skype 2.2.0.35-new which I have uploaded as .pet and .sfs to http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

I still like this old faithful version although I believe the video may not work so audio calls only. Until we get a better solution this may be helpful to some users.
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#36 Post by greengeek »

I feel ready to start adopting an open source alternative to Skype. Is anyone currently using some suitable method?

I don't understand why it should be so difficult to get the ISPs and data carriers to send the data packets without interference. After all we are the ones paying for the bandwidth.

I know Microsoft is now part of the Skype pathway, so I understand why they won't have any interest in prioritising or stabilising Linux users, but surely there must be a way of reliably connecting two people peer to peer for voice packets at least.

I haven't yet used puppy phone - I got put off by the hoops people seemed to have to jump through to make their ISPs leave the data packets alone and let them through...

And I don't need full screen video - I'd be happy if I could send a tiny video window - or even just a static image.

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#37 Post by jamesbond »

saintless wrote:For anyone using older versions like Skype 2.1 and Skype 2.2:
Starting skype with this script works for me every time to login.
Name it start-skype for example:

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#!/bin/bash

rm -f /root/.Skype/shared.lck
rm -f /root/.Skype/shared.xml
rm -fr /root/.Skype/shared_httpfe
rm -fr /root/.Skype/shared_dynco
skype
Move it in /usr/bin and type start-skype in terminal. Make sure to quit Skype before running start-skype again. Logout is not enough.

This doesn't work for Skype 4.2
Many thanks for this trick. I'm a long time user of Skype 2.2 and I was about to toss it to the bin when I found out it didn't work starting from two days ago. It's painful to rely on proprietary service - but many of my contacts still rely on this, so I can't avoid it :(
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#38 Post by watchdog »

greengeek wrote:I feel ready to start adopting an open source alternative to Skype. Is anyone currently using some suitable method?
There are a lot of alternatives not all open source. I have tested google-talk:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59399

and I have an old account at google voice (now hangout).

Puppy phone with ekiga call-out (it requires an account at diamondcard):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 1751cfe2b8

Later I came to "Imo":

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94024

Mozilla is at work to provide voip chat and calls only by its browser and webrtc.

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OscarTalks suggestion works

#39 Post by sgchris »

"OscarTalks
Posted: Sun 03 Aug 2014, 17:36 Post subject:
Hello saintless,

Thanks for the tip. I have just tried it and it does work. You have to click to accept the licence at each start-up but that is a very minor thing.

I have made a modified version of Skype 2.2.0.35-new which I have uploaded as .pet and .sfs to http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

I still like this old faithful version although I believe the video may not work so audio calls only. Until we get a better solution this may be helpful to some users."



I tried it today
in Precise Puppy version 5.7.1
it work great
sound, video, all
I was speaking an hour now video-conference
Thanks OscarTalks

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I forgotten to mention

#40 Post by sgchris »

I forgotten to mention
I have also install
v4l-utils-0.pet
and I run the .sfs version
work great!

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#41 Post by saintless »

Edit: Does not work this way since 08.08.2014. But works similar the opposite way starting 4.3.0.37 first. More information here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95202

OK guys, do not rush to delete Skype 4.0.0.8 and Skype 4.2 yet.
Here is how you can login with Skype 4.0.0.8
(no time today to test 4.2 but I guess it will work the same way). Tested on DebianDog with deb packages but it will be the same for Puppy. The instruction involves installing pet (deb) packages. You can addapt it to use SFS files but Skype 2.2.0.35-new has to be rebuilded with different path and name for skype binary and starting script /usr/bin/skype.

1. Start Skype 2.2.0.35-new (or if you have already installed Skype 2.1, or 2.2 + start-skype script from my previous post) and setup skype to autologin after start (very important). Quit and make sure starting skype really autologins in your account. If it does quit skype with right click from the tray icon (also very important).

2. Make sure /root/.Skype is there and do not delete anything from there.

3. Remove Skype 2.2.0.35-new (or your installed skype 2.2). Make sure to delete also start-skype script if it was manually added by you. It is important not to start it by accident because it will break Skype 4.0.0.8 from now.

4. Install Skype 4.0.0.8 (Im sure someone will point download location for working pet package). I'm using this ubuntu deb:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/111495501 ... 1_i386.deb

5. Run Skype 4.0.0.8 from terminal by typing skype
You will autologin in you account which was setup to autologin with Skype 2.2

As long you quit and start skype without using logout it will work for you. If you use logout it will be broken again but it is OK. Read next step how to fix it:

6. In case you did logout and Skype again is not working extract the skype binary from Skype 2.2.0.35-new sfs or pet, rename it to skype-2 (for example) and move it in /usr/bin

7. Create script to run /usr/bin/skype-2 named skype-fix (for example):
skype-fix content:

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#!/bin/bash

rm -f /root/.Skype/shared.lck
rm -f /root/.Skype/shared.xml
rm -fr /root/.Skype/shared_httpfe
rm -fr /root/.Skype/shared_dynco
/usr/bin/skype-2
Anytime you break by logging out Skype 4.0.0.8 use skype-fix to setup /root/.Skype folder content to autologin in your account. Then quit Skype 2.2 from the tray icon and start from terminal Skype 4.0.0.8 by typing skype.

I know it is not perfect solution and needs to keep skype-2 binary in the system but it is fine for me and I guess others will find it useful.

Maybe someone will make sfs and pet including both binaries and the right setup and menu entries after more people confirm it is working for them too.

Edit: Yes, it works for Skype 4.2 also.

Toni
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Skype 2.02.35new

#42 Post by Payoon »

Hi Oscar
have convert your Skype 2.02.35new.pet to a Porteus module (.xzm) Audio and Video work flawless. Thanks a lot. I also have made a module for 4.3.0.37. from source. It starts without errors. but no audio and video ( maybe because I don't know howto handle pulseaudio). So as long as possible I will go with your Skype 2.02.35new.

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#43 Post by Makoto »

I noticed this post tonight while I was looking around... apparently, all OS X users need to do to keep using older versions of Skype is block access to ui.skype.com.

Can anyone confirm whether or not this would work for Linux users?
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#44 Post by saintless »

Makoto wrote:Can anyone confirm whether or not this would work for Linux users?
I wish it was so easy for linux.
Tested in DebianDog with Skype 2.2.0.35 and 4.2.0.13 fresh installed adding this in /etc/hosts:

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127.0.0.1 ui.skype.com
and after that replacing with this:

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0.0.0.0 ui.skype.com
also:

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127.0.0.1 http://ui.skype.com

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0.0.0.0 http://ui.skype.com
Does not work for me. I think it will be the same in Puppy but more test reports will confirm if it works in some form for us.

Edit: Testing to use /etc/hosts.deny also does not work but needs more experimenting.

Toni

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#45 Post by saintless »

OscarTalks wrote:I have made a modified version of Skype 2.2.0.35-new which I have uploaded as .pet and .sfs to http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Can someone confirm if this pet still works for him?
I think the loophole we had is closed from today. I can't connect this morning. Hope it is my ISP issue but I doubt that.

Toni

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#46 Post by mcewanw »

saintless wrote:
OscarTalks wrote:I have made a modified version of Skype 2.2.0.35-new which I have uploaded as .pet and .sfs to http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Can someone confirm if this pet still works for him?
I think the loophole we had is closed from today. I can't connect this morning. Hope it is my ISP issue but I doubt that.

Toni
I haven't been testing it Toni. But, maybe some of the Skype developers read the Puppy forum. Afterall, it is a very active forum, and a lot gets discussed here and murga forum links are quick to appear on google searches about most anything linux. So annoying that would be, and such a kill-joy wasting other people's time (yours particularly). If so, far better etiquette if Skype developers at least came on this forum and made it clear that they were planning to disable any such workarounds before significant effort(s) had already been put in to them.

Imagine how different things would be if Skype opened up the source or even the protocol (including login protocol details), what fun we would have making it all work and work better.

An opensourced Skype-like app that bettered Skype would be great. Problem, aside from the current number of Skype users, is that Microsoft are slowly and surely building Skype functionality into their other major apps such as Office. EDIT: So it becomes a bit of a monopoly that is difficult to break (maybe the EU, and US and everyone else, needs to warn Microsoft to allow competing VOIP apps to easily be linked into Office and so on else yet another example of anti-competitive practice and not sell their products with any VOIP already built in, but as optional addons only - otherwise becomes the same as how they 'used to' sell Windows OS with Internet Explorer effectively hardwired in).

William
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#47 Post by saintless »

Hi, William.
There are some projects in this direction:
http://www.oklabs.net/skype-reverse-eng ... g-journey/
http://www.oklabs.net/fakeskype-source-code/
http://www.oklabs.net/skype-reverse-eng ... g-genesis/

Searching for workarounds helps Skype developers to make the protection stronger unfortunately but there is also a chance they will break something for the new version. We shall wait and see...

Toni

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neither for me it works from yesterday

#48 Post by sgchris »

neither for me it works from yesterday
and I used all the tricks-scripts mentioned above.
I also tried some things with pulseaudio with no effects.

Now I use skype-4.3.0.37-experiment.sfs
all work great except SOUND :cry:

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#49 Post by OscarTalks »

Tried the 2.2.0.35-new several times but not logging in for me.
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to OscarTalks_Solution of yours that work

#50 Post by sgchris »

to OscarTalks_Solution of yours that work
you posted

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 73f3eb9477

I did it
and works
I tried before a momment
and ALL works fine

Boot in RAM MODE (pfix=RAM)
Install pulseaudio-2.0-test.pet
and run
skype-4.3.0.37-experiment.sfs

ALLthings work fine
perhaps this can give us a dirrection.

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