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Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 17:01
by Karl Godt
Starhawk, the 3.2 kernel seems not to support GMA 3000 chips .
Others had posted similar in the hardware section and switched to recent kernels by pemasu.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 17:39
by PaulR
PaulR wrote:
ETP wrote:Hi PaulR,
It may be:

a) A bad download of the ISO – you need to confirm the checksum.
Or
b) A bad burn. I suggest if a) is o/k, that using something like BurnAware, you burn it again at the slowest possible speed and ensure you turn on the verify option.
Thanks ETP - I've double checked (a) and that's ok. Wouldn't think (b) would apply as the same thing happens when I boot from USB (although that was made with the same ISO. I'll start over, download and burn another disk, see if the same happens.
That didn't work. The MD5 is correct and I created a bootable USB using Puppy's BootFlash. While it boots and behaves normally it still hangs when trying first save and there's no option to save to hard disk instead of USB.

Paul

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:22
by starhawk
Karl Godt wrote:Starhawk, the 3.2 kernel seems not to support GMA 3000 chips .
Others had posted similar in the hardware section and switched to recent kernels by pemasu.
OK, no worries -- although you just taught me two things.
(1) that Precise 56 uses a 3.2.x kernel.
(2) that my GMA500 graphics core is part of the GMA3000 series. Doesn't make numerical sense but you know more than I do, so I trust you on that.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:38
by rjbrewer
PaulR wrote:
That didn't work. The MD5 is correct and I created a bootable USB using Puppy's BootFlash. While it boots and behaves normally it still hangs when trying first save and there's no option to save to hard disk instead of USB.

Paul
It seems these problems are affecting older Intel machines.
I never use frugal installs, but did try some on my Inspiron and
experienced every sort of problem concerning hangups, save-
files, missing icons, and even kernel panics, that others have
mentioned in the last few pages.

With my full install; the temporary addition of "acpi=force" to
the grub kernel line solves the hang problem.

I'll try my netbook and see if it works with frugal.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 18:45
by PaulR
Thanks rjbrewer, at least I'm not alone in having this issue so there's hope yet :D

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 19:18
by Sage
Couldn't get either Claws or Sylpheed to run in 5.6. Might've had something to do with huge lists of dependencies? Didn't see .pets for either, either?
Also experiencing extreme difficulties downloading a friend's sky.com emails into SM emailer. The Sky instructions are as bizarre as incorrect - many of the steps they require don't exist. Somewhere, I saw that their default IMAPI needs to be changed to POP at some sky web location which proved equally unreachable. Any comments welcomed.
Unfortunately, with other folks one doesn't get rational choices of HW or SW ! Just takes ten times longer...

icake : please resize your picture to conform with Forum regulations.

"acpi=force" : see this Dougal fix has become necessary again. The need for this was fixed a couple of centuries back, or so it seems. The answer is known to many, but not me.

Sylpheed runs great Precise 5.6

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 19:24
by broomdodger
Sage wrote:Couldn't get either Claws or Sylpheed to run in 5.6. Might've had something to do with huge lists of dependencies? Didn't see .pets for either, either?
I download the source:
http://sourceforge.jp/projects/sylpheed ... 3.tar.bz2/
And compile, runs great Precise 5.6
Bill

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 19:25
by Sage
Ta!
compile
is above my pay grade.

precise 5.6-final, May 21, 2013

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 20:14
by icake
Sage,

Thanks for pointing out that the size of my image in my earlier message has not conformed with the forum regulations.

I did not know what are the requirements for the image size in the forum, and I searched briefly for the regulations without success. I have now resized my images to message board size of 640x480.

If this is also not an allowed size, please let me know asap.

Posted: Mon 27 May 2013, 20:18
by rjbrewer
PaulR wrote:Thanks rjbrewer, at least I'm not alone in having this issue so there's hope yet :D
Tried my netbook with usbflash:

No hangup or other problems; did save file to usbflash ok.
There is no option for hdsave as far as I can see.

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 01:10
by zygo
Sage,

In pp5.6 I used http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... 1.0-q1.pet to receive email over IMAP4
There are newer and older version in http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-wary5/

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 02:06
by OscarTalks
I made a .PET of the nVidia legacy 173.14.37 driver with kernel 3.2.44 for Precise Puppy 5.6 here:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86424

Agere modem driver firmware package upgraded

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 02:22
by rerwin
peebee, and other testers,
I think I found why peebee had such trouble with the new driver. I corrected the cause in the firmware package, as well as making other bug fixes there. Please replace the previous version with the corrected version at the original place:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 629#705629

I go into more detail, there.
Richard

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 05:13
by Crash
Booting 5.6 results in a blank screen with the monitor complaining "Input Not Supported". Adding "pfix=nox" to boot menu doesn't help. All recent versions, including 5.5, work OK.

Video card: Nvidia GeForce GT 520
Processor: Intel Dual-Core E6500

MENU.LST excerpt (Grub4DOS):

title Precise Puppy Linux 56 frugal install at sda1/p56
find --set-root /menu.lst
kernel /p56/vmlinuz psubdir=p56 pmedia=atahd pfix=nox
initrd /p56/initrd.gz

/// Edited a few minutes later:

P.S.: It works fine on my laptop, which is an MSI A4000, using an Intel T4300 CPU, GeForce 8200M Video.

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 06:03
by Sage
zygo: many thanks for your comments. With Sky, they cloak their verbiage so that it becomes incomprehensible - I cannot even ascertain whether my friend is defaulted to IMAPI or POP. Their 'instructions' point to non-existent menus and options. Vince Cable got it right - this devil is in league with the Devil as well as the devil. No chance the proletariat will stop pouring their shekels into his coffers and avoid using his systems. Sadly, not all good things emanate from the antipodes...

Re: Agere modem driver firmware package upgraded

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 08:14
by peebee
rerwin wrote:peebee, and other testers,
I think I found why peebee had such trouble with the new driver. I corrected the cause in the firmware package, as well as making other bug fixes there. Please replace the previous version with the corrected version at the original place:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 629#705629

I go into more detail, there.
Richard
Hi Richard

Same testing - pristine frugal install of Precise 5.6 k3.2.44 - install your 2 pets: new firmware + agere hda 11c1:1040 driver - reboot

lsmod shows both agrmodem and agrserial loaded :)

dmesg shows ttyAGS3 has been created :)

connect wizard shows ttyAGS3 available :)

HOWEVER

modem-stats -c ATI3 /dev/ttyAGS3

and

clicking the Test button in PupDial

both kill Precise stone dead - power off button needed to recover. :x

Would taking a camera shot of the screen after the crash help?

Cheers
PeeBee

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 09:38
by zygo
Sage, Surely you don't mean MAPI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAPI in relation to mail. You haven't been using some other OS have you? :)

gexec bug

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 09:57
by L18L
See screenshot

Note,
I did not really want to "run as root"

Unticked "run as root" I did not see any output of that command.

Ticking "run in terminal" makes no difference.

If I am running in terminal I do not need gexec at all.

So I am voting for "remove gexec from puppy" unless someone enlightened me how to use gexec 8)

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 10:19
by Sage
haven't been
Oh no! Just trying to stop others from veering onto the dark side...

Regarding the Agere modem driver testing effort

Posted: Tue 28 May 2013, 23:00
by rerwin
As you can see above, peebee reports that the HDA variant (agrsm-11c11040) of the driver crashes puppy. From the screen shot he sent me, I suspect the problem lies with the interface to the ALSA HDA driver or codec. I have not gone much beyond that, as I have not found clues, yet, on google.

The screen line of interest contains "findHDACodec+0x10/0x38 [agrmodem]"; 5 lines above it is "do_page_fault...". (I can use any help, at all, with this.)

But that probably affects only the HDA agrmodem driver. The two PCI variants should not have that problem, so need to be tested by someone who has one of the PCI Agere modems that use the drivers agrsm06pci or agrsm048pci.

Remember: they all require the new firmware_linux_module_agrmodem package.
Richard