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What is a Wireless adapter that Puppy can autodetect?
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dogdoy
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jun 2005, 05:31    Post subject:  What is a Wireless adapter that Puppy can autodetect?  

I would like to buy a PCMCIA wireless adapter that work fine with Puppy.
Which one is autodetect by current version of Puppy(1.0.3)?

Sorry for my poor english.
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jun 2005, 06:59    Post subject:  

Currently no adapters are 'auto detected'......

If you have a look in Announcements the XFree86-4.4.0 iso includes madwifi drivers which will support Dlink DWL-G630 Ver:D1 F\W:4.00 (well that's what I'm using now).

The madwifi wiki on http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=compatibility_list has a list of compatitable cards.

Getting the card to work is as simple as
#modprobe ath_pci
#ifconfig ath0 your ip addressup
#iwconfig ath0 your wireless parameters
#route add default gw your gateway ath0
These lines can be added to /etc/rc.d/rc.local so it's enabled during the boot process
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jun 2005, 13:06    Post subject:  

Thank you.
I'm a newbie in Linux, so I don't know how to do that.

Hopefully the next version of Puppy can make my laptop goes wireless.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jun 2005, 18:13    Post subject:  

I have a PCMCI Linksys WPC11 ver 3.0 and it works great with puppy, it recognizes it as eth1.

As a newbie, what you need to do is the following:

1. Install your router without security (No WEP and do broadcast the essid)
2. Test that the connection works
3. Apply security (I would not dream of using my wireless without encryption)

In more detail:

1. Follow the instructions for your router, here I cannot be of more help but routers are usually well documented (at least my linksys is)

2.
- Open a rtvt console
- type the following (without my comments)
Code:

# The next command will list all the network devices. It will tell you which ones is the wireless one.
iwconfig

Open the ethernet/network wizard
Click on the test_<device> where <device> is the name you got from the last step
(Replace <device> with the name of the device in all my instructions.)
If it tells you that the device is connected, just click on the configure_<device> button and you are in business.

3. To add security follow your router instructions, and write down the following:
- ESSID that you assigned to the router
- WEP key generated (this is like a password in hexadecimal)

- Open a rxvt console
- Type the following:
Code:

iwconfig <device> essid "whatever"        # replace "whatever" with the actual ESSID string
iwconfig <device> key restricted <wepKey>    # Replace <wepKey> with the actual wep key
iwconfig <device> mode Managed          # Replace Managed with whatever mode you are using if it is not managed
ifconfig <device> up
dhcpcd <device>


and you are in business again and secure.

Once you have tested that your connection is OK, just open a text editor and open /etc/rc.d/rc.local

add the configuration lines that you typed in the previous step (the iwconfig and if config lines)
with this the network will start every time you start puppy
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2005, 08:50    Post subject:  

Wow! That's really help.
I will find your PCMCIA at ebay. If it cheap enough, I will get one.

Thanks. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2005, 09:42    Post subject:  

Bear in mind that this is an 'old' card. I've had it for a couple of years.

This means two things:
- It only supports band 'Wireless-B' band.
- You may be able to find one very cheap.

If you are mostly connecting to the internet, Wireless-B is perfect. If you are going to have a lot of internal network trafic (between computers in your own home network) then you may want to have Wireles-G speed. I am still quite happy with Wireless-B.

Although Linksys is a well supported card, I would still do some research for how well that card works with your particular laptop.

Here is the product sheet
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2005, 11:43    Post subject: Wireless Card  

>I would like to buy a PCMCIA wireless adapter that work fine with Puppy.
>Which one is autodetect by current version of Puppy(1.0.3)?

I have a Laneed Wireless PC Card LD-WL11/PCC
Picked it up in a bargain bin for about 10 bucks.

Didn't auto detect, I had to take it through the "Ethernet/Network Wizard"
But it works fine.

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2005, 15:03    Post subject:  

Word of warning


These cards maybe the old Prism 2/2.5 based cards, they are getting thin on the ground and manufactureres are notorious for changing chipset's through a models lifespan, so be very careful about which Version of the card you grab...

I use a DWL-G630 H\W Ver:D1 Firmware Ver:4.00......The only thing I have to do is load the driver and then bring it up.....

ie

#modprobe ath_pci
#ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.130

and it automagically configures itself to my access point......BTW these cards are quite common

After your first boot add these lines to the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local (with of course using the iso version I mentioned) and bang puppy "auto detects your card"
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2005, 23:10    Post subject:  

Hey Blade.

Are you running your wireless without WEP and broadcasting ESSID?

You must be a very nice guy to leave your network open for every neighbor and passer-by to use. Or are you connecting to a public wireless network?

If it is your home network I highly recommend to:
A) Don't broadcast the ESSID
B) Enable WEP in the router
C) Restrict the allowed MAC addresses to the computers you trust

And configure your card following the steps I wrote before.

This may seem paranoic, but you may be in trouble if someone downloads ilegal stuff using your network.

If you want to share with the neighbors you can always provide them with the configuration parameters. (ESSID, WEP Key)
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2005, 23:12    Post subject:  

Oh, and I agree, the card version is important. (that's why I included it in my original response)
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2005, 02:26    Post subject:  

At the moment I am.....


But considering I'm only using a dialup connection and have a "roll my own" accesspoint, I have a finer grain of control about what goes in & out plus the internet connection isn't on 24/7.

Tho i really should setup a mac blacklist for the wireless connection and then again for the routing plus install a radius server.
At the moment there is nothing I've got that I don't mind others seeing.
The access point is an on going project and so far my router log files don't show anything untoward....
What would they get off my file server ?

Linux iso's and some source tarballs......Hey I got the whole puppy collection (well just about).
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2005, 09:24    Post subject:  

I run my network completely without security, but that is because my house is pretty well isolated. It's an old farm house with thick brick walls, so I can barely get a signal right outside the door. If any of the residents of the nearest building, which is a sort of retirement home about 1000' away, can get onto my network, I say they deserve some of my bandwidth!

On a related note, I too have a wireless card that is autodetected (well, as autodetected as they get in puppy). I bought a laptop on ebay about two weeks ago for a song, and I got very lucky with the included wireless card. The network wizard sees it as eth1, and all I have to do is click the "use dchp" button, and everything is great! I don't have it with me at the moment, but I'll post the model tonight. I do know that it's a 802.11B card, so it might be somewhat old.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2005, 11:14    Post subject:  

rarsa wrote:

A) Don't broadcast the ESSID
B) Enable WEP in the router
C) Restrict the allowed MAC addresses to the computers you trust


Even that is not very secure A) and C) provide very little extra security, and WEP can be cracked with Airsnort in very little time.
It will slow people down and prevent the "casual" user from getting in though.

I have no experience with wireless on linux, so I don;t know if/how WPA/WPA is supported but WPA security is much much better (a way to think about it is that the key changes for every packet sent on the network).

I do live in an area where it's easy to "steal" bandwidth from each other, so I think WEP is not paranoid enough.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 May 2006, 19:03    Post subject: Which Version of MadWifi Best Matches Puppy?  

Anonymous wrote:

The madwifi wiki on http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=compatibility_list has a list of compatitable cards.


My Proxim Gold is compatible but I do not know which version of MadWifi
I should download.

Debian
Fedora
Redhat
SuSE
????

Help? Please?

Thanks! doc

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