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jojobear9

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 15:53    Post_subject:  No WLAN detected
Sub_title: Slacko 5.5 pae installed on a Fujitsu Desktop with i7 CPU
 

AN AVM WLAN-Stick plugged in the Desktop was not recognized by Linux during installation. Internet Connection Wizzard was used, but no WLAN found. Is anyone able to tell me a method to solve this problem? I am a newcomer with Linux and thanking for a usefull answer.
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mill0001

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 19:34    Post_subject:  

Hi jojo: We need to know what chip your usb stick uses. Go to menu-system-system status and config-
hardinfo hardware information. Click on that and go to usb devices and click on it, then scroll on right side to network controller. Post back what it says. You need this in order to find the right driver for your stick.
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jojobear9

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 16:38    Post_subject:  

Thks mill0001. To solve that problem we used ndiswrapper and it worked. WLAN connection is satisfactory now. Again thanks for your prompt answer.
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circularL7

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 18:04    Post_subject:  

I recently had a similar problem with a card. While the wizard ran, I removed and re-inserted the card, then the system recognized it.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 22:58    Post_subject:  

mill0001 wrote:
Go to menu-system-system status and config-
hardinfo hardware information.

Well done mill0001, that's the absolutely correct first step to diagnose such problems.
It's a shame the OP did not provide this feedback ...
because then we would have been in a position to troubleshoot the native Linux driver which should have worked - in this case the driver was likely to be carl9170 (which Slacko 5.5 already contains) and it would have been good to get a reported case of this driver fully working.

And so the informational value of this forum remains low.
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mill0001

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2013, 17:04    Post_subject:  

Tempestuous: Thanks for the props. I must say I have gotten bunches of really helpful info from your posts over the years, so thank you for your devotion to and helpfulness with Puppy.
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jojobear9

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 14:12    Post_subject:  

Sorry for not giving a feedback to this recommendation, but I pretend to be a real newcomer, not familiar with any feedbacks given in a forum. Being happy that the win- driver worked properly I definitely forgot to reply that the product number is 0x151, Vendor is 0xbda. Its a Fritz!WLAN stick from AVM.
The next attempt to get WLAN with Linux driver carl9170 installed via bootmanager configure bootup was unsuccessful. The problem is that in the net work wizzard we can only see eth0 sign and no WLAN at all. Again sorry for not replying properly and I am seriously willing to accept and attempt any new proposal or driver.
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 14:39    Post_subject:  

The AVM is likely to have an Atheros chip.
In the network wizard you can find "ar9170 usb" in the
"load module" section.
Might be worth a try.

http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=AVM

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jojobear9

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 15:25    Post_subject:  

Thanks so much for this info, but unable to find neither ar9170 nor ar9710 in Network Manager and Boot Manager Configure. Searching in HardInfo for the chip name resulted that producer is Realtek instead of Atheros.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 17:38    Post_subject:  

jojobear9 wrote:
Thanks so much for this info, but unable to find neither ar9170 nor ar9710 in Network Manager and Boot Manager Configure. Searching in HardInfo for the chip name resulted that producer is Realtek instead of Atheros.


Realtek is more often cable modem.
Type lsusb in console and find id for device.
Looked in slacko5.5 and ar9170 or ar9710 does not exist there.

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 18:11    Post_subject:  

From what I see, that "should" be a Realtek device (0x0bda=Realtek) ...and the product ID is for a multi-card reader, which isn't what we want.
How I'd find it:
Code:

#remove it
#then execute in terminal:
dmesg -c #clear kernel messages
lsusb >usb-preinsert.txt #save list of usb devices other than it
#now insert, wait a couple seconds
#and run to save the messages and harware info:
dmesg >dmesg-post.txt
lsusb >usb-postinsert.txt
diff -u usb-preinsert.txt usb-postinsert.txt |grep ^+ #get only new devices

Also, I'm seeing claims of that being the TI TNETW1450 or the AR9170, the latter with module ar9170usb as driver. The former needs acx-mac80211.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 22:13    Post_subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
In the network wizard you can find "ar9170 usb" in the
"load module" section.

The ar9170usb driver is deprecated in modern kernels in favour of the carl9170 driver.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 22:15    Post_subject:  

jojobear9 wrote:
the product number is 0x151, Vendor is 0xbda.

Well 0bda is Realtek, and Realtek does make a range of wifi devices ...
but Google tells me that device ID 0151 is a multicard reader!

Are you sure you read the system status output correctly?
The vendor is more likely to be 057c ...
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jojobear9

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 15:46    Post_subject:  

Well, again thanks for the info. Presently it was not possible to find out, who the producer plus vendor of the chip are. I only have the info about the stick as it is indicated in the system status and there is no change to that, I wrote the other day. Anyway I have asked AVM via mail to state correct data, but did not receive an answer yet. So I'm waiting for that, and then come back with hopefully the correct data.
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 16:56    Post_subject:  

jojobear9 wrote:
Well, again thanks for the info. Presently it was not possible to find out, who the producer plus vendor of the chip are. I only have the info about the stick as it is indicated in the system status and there is no change to that, I wrote the other day. Anyway I have asked AVM via mail to state correct data, but did not receive an answer yet. So I'm waiting for that, and then come back with hopefully the correct data.


Still need the info from typing "lsusb" in console.

Any description or version numbers on the plastic case?

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