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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 08:42    Post_subject:  

It is best to have lupu in its own directory and to move these files
that belong to lupu inside that dir

Much appreciated proebler that you describe your way to set it up
that description can help people that wants to do it same way.

I leave you now in the hands of proebler to describe how he
set up the menu.lst for puppy and the other linuxes when one
have many partitions.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 09:02    Post_subject:  

rmcellig,
your picture shows, that you now have copied the isolinux and manjaro directories to your flash drive.
That is what I did.
Note, that there was also a hidden file .miso in the manjaro iso. I copied that too, even though it appears to be an empty file.

The Grub4Dos menu.lst entry which I posted earlier should now hopefully work.
You will have to use root (hd0,0) since the manjaro directories are in the one and only fat32 partition of your flash drive.
I don't know whether it is ok to use the manjaro directories on a fat32 formatted partition, you will find that out.
good luck
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 12:23    Post_subject:  

Doesn't seem to work (Filesystem type is FAT, Error 15 file not found error) probably because I have a my 16GB stick formatted as fat32. If I reformatted the drive as ext4, would that work?
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 18:23    Post_subject:  

rmcellig,
you can still boot into Lupu_528, can you?
Please show your menu.lst entry for manjaro.

If you do decide to reformat, you could use ext2, which is easier for the flash drive.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 18:53    Post_subject:  

Yes. I can still boot in puppy 528. Here are the contents of my menu.lst file which is on my 16GB stick.

Code:
# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.7.2
color blue/cyan yellow/blue white/black cyan/black
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Lupu 528 (sdb1)
  uuid 5170-7889
  kernel /vmlinuz  pmedia=usbflash  pfix=fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz

title Lupu 528 (sdb1) RAM mode\nBoot up Puppy without pupsave
  uuid 5170-7889
  kernel /vmlinuz  pmedia=usbflash  pfix=ram,fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz

title Lupu 528 (sda1/puppy528)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy528/initrd.gz
  kernel /puppy528/vmlinuz  pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy528 pfix=fsck
  initrd /puppy528/initrd.gz

title Puppy precise 5.5 (sda1/precise55)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /precise55/initrd.gz
  kernel /precise55/vmlinuz  pmedia=atahd psubdir=precise55 pfix=fsck
  initrd /precise55/initrd.gz

title Puppy racy 5.5 (sda1/racy55)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /racy55/initrd.gz
  kernel /racy55/vmlinuz  pmedia=atahd psubdir=racy55 pfix=fsck
  initrd /racy55/initrd.gz

title Puppy luki 023 (sda1/saluki23)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /saluki23/initrd.gz
  kernel /saluki23/vmlinuz  pmedia=atahd psubdir=saluki23 pfix=fsck
  initrd /saluki23/initrd.gz

title Lupu 528 (sda6/my16GBstick)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /my16GBstick/initrd.gz
  kernel /my16GBstick/vmlinuz  pmedia=atahd psubdir=my16GBstick pfix=fsck
  initrd /my16GBstick/initrd.gz

title Lupu 528 (sda6/thepupy528)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /thepupy528/initrd.gz
  kernel /thepupy528/vmlinuz  pmedia=atahd psubdir=thepupy528 pfix=fsck
  initrd /thepupy528/initrd.gz

# Full installed Linux

title Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (sda1)
  uuid 9149dc76-8d65-410d-8dea-d0b6cf95683c
  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro

title Linux (sda3)
  uuid b2b77a51-02f3-408d-87b4-93ee17b207d0
  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro
  initrd /initrd.img

title Manjaro Linux boot (sda4/boot)
  uuid 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-38-i686 root=/dev/sda4 ro

title Ubuntu 12.10 (sda6)
  uuid 98946d9c-e2d8-4d57-87d4-60ee462fc12a
  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro
  initrd /initrd.img

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
title Windows\nBoot up Windows if installed
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
  chainloader /bootmgr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
  chainloader /ntldr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
  chainloader /io.sys
  errorcheck on

# Boot from Partition Boot Sector

title Lupu 528 (sdb1:PBS)
  uuid 5170-7889
  chainloader +1

title Manjaro Linux boot (sda4:PBS)
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  uuid 9149dc76-8d65-410d-8dea-d0b6cf95683c
  chainloader +1

# additionals
title Bootup from HDD\nBootup from the master boot record of the hard disk drive
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  chainloader (hd0)+1

title Find Grub menu on HDD
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /menu.lst && configfile /menu.lst
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/grub/menu.lst && configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /grub/menu.lst && configfile /grub/menu.lst
  errorcheck on
  commandline

title Find Grub2\nBoot up grub2 if installed
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/grub/core.img
  kernel /boot/grub/core.img

title Grub4Dos commandline\n(for experts only)
  commandline

title Reboot computer
  reboot

title Halt computer
  halt
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proebler

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 21:39    Post_subject:  

rmcellig,
so you have reformatted the flash drive?
And Manjaro is no longer on sdb1, only Lupu_528.

You appear to have Manjaro fully installed on your HDD sda4.
Did you install that from CD, is it manjaro-openbox-0.8.5-i686?

What can you run now , when you are presented with options from that menu.lst at boot up and what does not work?
For instance, does your Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (sda1) work
and are you back to where you started with Manjaro, i.e. Error 15, not booting?

In my experience, the menu.lst entries need an initrd line.
I don't know if that is actually a must, but it is not there in your entry:
Code:
title Manjaro Linux boot (sda4/boot)
  uuid 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-38-i686 root=/dev/sda4 ro

So where is your intrd [.img or.gz?], is it in sda4/boot perhaps?

Note, that my initial post is NOT for a full install.
I only wanted to run Manjaro live from the USB [as from a Live-CD].
I do not have Manjaro fully installed, so I do not know whether there is an initrd and where it is.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 21:48    Post_subject:  

Thanks proebler

I will post back tommorow with the information you need.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 21:50    Post_subject:  

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 05:27    Post_subject:  

I just recieved this from the Manjaro forum:

Just use Grub, not Grub4dos.

Code: [Select]
Sudo update-grub

should find everything needed when Grub is installed. It normally is easier to reinstall than to install Grub.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 09:29    Post_subject:  

I rebooted from the USB 16GB stick and from the grub menu was able to boot successfully into Xubuntu, Crunchbang and Lubuntu. These distros each have their own partition. on the internal HD in the laptop. Manjaro is the only one that does not boot properly.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 10:02    Post_subject:  

rmcellig wrote
Quote:
I rebooted from the USB 16GB stick and from the grub menu was able to boot successfully into Xubuntu, Crunchbang and Lubuntu. These distros each have their own partition. on the internal HD in the laptop. Manjaro is the only one that does not boot properly.

So Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (sda1) boots ok too?
That would then indicate that the initrd line is not a must.
Still, can you find Manjaro's intrd [.img or.gz?] ?
see my previous post
Quote:
So where is your intrd [.img or.gz?], is it in sda4/boot perhaps?


About the suggestion to use sudo update-grub:

Yes, that could possibly do it.
It assumes, that with your laptop you use Grub as the boot manager.

From your initial post
Quote:
I installed Manjaro on my PC to try it out. It wiped out the GRUB menu I had created with Grub4DOS. All of my Puppy entries are gone. When I redid the GRUB menu using Grub4Dos, Manjaro would not load. errors were coming up on system start up.

I assume:
- that you initially used Grub4Dos [not Grub] as the laptop's boot manager.
- installing Manjaro then installed Grub by default
- you were then presented with the Grub interface [not the Grub4Dos] at boot. It did not show your Puppy entries.
- you then ran Grub4Dos again, trying to get Manjaro included in the [Grub4Dos] menu.lst
- you are now presented with the Grub4Dos interface at boot. It does now shows Manjaro, but it fails to load.

Now, since Manjaro does not load and since Grub4Dos is the boot manager, what is the point of doing the update-grub?
You cannot do it from Manjaro [it does not load].
You could perhaps try to do it from one of your other installed systems [the menu.lst from the flash drive shows Ubuntu 12.10 (sda6)].
However I think that it may not work. Running Grub4Dos alters the MBR [depends on the chosen option when you do it].

It may be easier to stick with Grub4Dos.
It's menu.lst can easily be edited.
With Grub2 it is more complicated [though update-grub is easy too, when it can be used and when it works as expected]

So, where on your laptop is your Grub4Dos menu.lst?
Can you show that list please.
[you have shown the one from the flash drive in the previous post]
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 10:53    Post_subject:  

Yes Ubuntu 12.04 LTS boots fine from the USB stick. I'm still trying to find the intrd file. Here are the contents of the grub.cfg file for Manjaro. Can't locate the menu.lst file that Manjaro generated.

Code:
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
insmod part_gpt
insmod part_msdos
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  load_env
fi
set default="${saved_entry}"

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
    saved_entry="${chosen}"
    save_env saved_entry
  fi
}

function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
  else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

set menu_color_normal=light-green/black
set menu_color_highlight=yellow/black

insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos4'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos4 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos4  3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
fi
if loadfont /boot/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_CA
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_input console
terminal_output gfxterm
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos4'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos4 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos4  3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
fi
insmod png
background_image -m stretch /usr/share/grub/background.png
set timeout=25
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/06_grub-customizer_menu_color_helper ###
set color_normal=light-green/black
set color_highlight=yellow/black
### END /etc/grub.d/06_grub-customizer_menu_color_helper ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Manjaro Linux (Kernel: 3.8.6-1-MANJARO x32)' --class manjaro --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.8.6-1-MANJARO x32-true-3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe' {
   savedefault
   load_video
   set gfxpayload=keep
   insmod gzio
   insmod part_msdos
   insmod ext2
   set root='hd0,msdos4'
   if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos4 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos4  3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
   else
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
   fi
   echo   'Loading Linux 3.8.6-1-MANJARO x32 ...'
   linux   /boot/vmlinuz-38-i686 root=UUID=3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe ro  resume=UUID=f38c84b6-6c13-47b6-9dca-bd8fcc769e97
   echo   'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
   initrd   /boot/initramfs-38-i686.img
}
menuentry 'Manjaro Linux (Kernel: 3.8.6-1-MANJARO x32 - fallback initramfs)' --class manjaro --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.8.6-1-MANJARO x32-fallback-3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe' {
   load_video
   set gfxpayload=keep
   insmod gzio
   insmod part_msdos
   insmod ext2
   set root='hd0,msdos4'
   if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos4 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos4  3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
   else
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
   fi
   echo   'Loading Linux 3.8.6-1-MANJARO x32 ...'
   linux   /boot/vmlinuz-38-i686 root=UUID=3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe ro  resume=UUID=f38c84b6-6c13-47b6-9dca-bd8fcc769e97
   echo   'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
   initrd   /boot/initramfs-38-i686-fallback.img
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" --class memtest86 --class gnu --class tool {
  insmod part_msdos
  insmod ext2
  set root='hd0,msdos4'
  if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos4 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos4  3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
  else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
  fi
  linux16 ($root)/boot/memtest86+/memtest.bin
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober_proxy ###



menuentry "Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (12.04)" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-gnulinux-simple-9149dc76-8d65-410d-8dea-d0b6cf95683c' {
   savedefault
   insmod part_msdos
   insmod ext2
   set root='hd0,msdos1'
   if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  9149dc76-8d65-410d-8dea-d0b6cf95683c
   else
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9149dc76-8d65-410d-8dea-d0b6cf95683c
   fi
   linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1
   initrd /initrd.img
}
menuentry "Forsight Debian GNU/Linux (7.0)" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-gnulinux-simple-b2b77a51-02f3-408d-87b4-93ee17b207d0' {
   savedefault
   insmod part_msdos
   insmod ext2
   set root='hd0,msdos3'
   if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos3 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos3 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos3  b2b77a51-02f3-408d-87b4-93ee17b207d0
   else
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root b2b77a51-02f3-408d-87b4-93ee17b207d0
   fi
   linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=b2b77a51-02f3-408d-87b4-93ee17b207d0 ro quiet
   initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64
}
menuentry "Ubuntu 12.10 (12.10)" --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-gnulinux-simple-98946d9c-e2d8-4d57-87d4-60ee462fc12a' {
   savedefault
   insmod part_msdos
   insmod ext2
   set root='hd0,msdos6'
   if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6  98946d9c-e2d8-4d57-87d4-60ee462fc12a
   else
     search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 98946d9c-e2d8-4d57-87d4-60ee462fc12a
   fi
   linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-26-generic root=UUID=98946d9c-e2d8-4d57-87d4-60ee462fc12a ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
   initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-26-generic
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober_proxy ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f  ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
  source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f  $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
  source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:19    Post_subject:  

Because Manjaro is a GRUB2 distro, you may be able to boot it from Grub4Dos with this
Code:
title Manjaro Linux boot (sda4/boot)
uuid 3534475a-d82b-4e8e-91c3-e253b619cfbe
kernel /boot/grub/core.img
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:28    Post_subject:  

Thanks rcrsn51


I replaced the code already in the Grub4dos generated menu.lst with the one you posted. Didn't work. I get this error:

Booting Manjaro Linux boot (sda4/boot)

setting root to (hd1,3)
Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
kernel /boot/grub/core.img

Error 15: File not found

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Pressing any key just returns me to the grub menu list.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:32    Post_subject:  

Error 15 always means the same thing - the file that you requested does not exist in the place that you specified.

Look on sda4 - is Manjaro still there? Is the file /boot/grub/core.img there?
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