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killapup

Joined: 25 Apr 2012 Posts: 76 Location: Warwick, Qld, Australia
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Posted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 21:43 Post subject:
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kirk wrote: | killapup,
You can try booting with pfix=nox and see if it boots to a prompt. I haven't tested with less than 1Gb of RAM, but I would guess 512MB might work. The system will use about 210MB of RAM for storing the kernel and SFS file. Of course you still need RAM to actually run things, it would be tight. We do consider 1G the minimum to run X.
tlchost,
You would probably need to run Pidgin as the root user to do that. It normally is ran by user spot in Fatdog64. Unless your usb drive is formatted with a Linux filesystem and you make sure that spot still owns the .purple file after you copy it, it will not work with spot running it. You can edit /usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop and change:
Exec=pidgin-spot
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Exec=pidgin |
Thanks, kirk, I'll give that a go some time, cheers.
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tlchost
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 2051 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 08:18 Post subject:
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kirk wrote: |
tlchost,
You would probably need to run Pidgin as the root user to do that.......
You can edit /usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop and change:
Exec=pidgin-spot
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Exec=pidgin |
Thanks...that did the trick.
Is there a list of applications that have been set up to run only as spot?
Also, is there a way to NOT write to the save file at shutdown? Not only would that minimize writes to the USB drive, but also save one from saving a mistake made(I make mistakes all the time).
In order to efficiently have multiple puppies on the same usb drive, how can I keep the 64 bit sfs files in an area other than /mnt/home and be able to mount them?
Thanks,
Thom
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chapchap70
Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Posts: 205 Location: The Island Of Long (NY, USA)
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Posted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 19:39 Post subject:
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tlchost wrote: | Is there a list of applications that have been set up to run only as spot?
Also, is there a way to NOT write to the save file at shutdown? Not only would that minimize writes to the USB drive, but also save one from saving a mistake made(I make mistakes all the time).
In order to efficiently have multiple puppies on the same usb drive, how can I keep the 64 bit sfs files in an area other than /mnt/home and be able to mount them?
Thanks,
Thom |
I can only answer question 1. The web browser is set to run as Spot. I got Firefox and Thunderbird and set them up in Spot. You can drag and drop an icon into the "Edit" icon and see if it has the "-spot" in the "Exec" line if you want to see if any more are run as spot but I don't think so.
Edit: You can try Control Panel, System, double click on Manage Servers and Services, then uncheck the ram-save Running tab. My system is frugal installed and the "Start at Boot" tab is checked but the "Running" tab is not.
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killapup

Joined: 25 Apr 2012 Posts: 76 Location: Warwick, Qld, Australia
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Posted: Wed 03 Jul 2013, 07:24 Post subject:
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Hey kirk,
I tried FD with pfix=nox as you suggested but it still won't boot the kernel. But never mind, I'll give it a go if and when I get more ram.
Thanks again for your help,
Ray
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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 3146 Location: The Blue Marble
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Posted: Wed 03 Jul 2013, 11:39 Post subject:
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tlchost wrote: |
Is there a list of applications that have been set up to run only as spot?
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Code: | grep spot /usr/share/applications/* |
Quote: | Also, is there a way to NOT write to the save file at shutdown? Not only would that minimize writes to the USB drive, but also save one from saving a mistake made(I make mistakes all the time). | Enable the RAM layer, then:
1. Disable the ram-save service (as others have pointed out), or
2. Go to Event Manager and change save interval to zero.
Quote: | In order to efficiently have multiple puppies on the same usb drive, how can I keep the 64 bit sfs files in an area other than /mnt/home and be able to mount them? | It can be anywhere. Load them with System SFS Loader (choose folder, the click refresh button) and tick the 'load at boot' checkbox when you do.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 06:02 Post subject:
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Finally got around to trying 621. appears to be working well on this box.
Only one little tweak was necessary..... had to add nouveau.noaccel=1 to the kernel line to combat multi-colored display freezes and hard poweroffs.
Occurs with all kernels since about k-3.5.x, both 32 and 64 bit.
Code: | VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3792MB (311MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Fatdog64 [bdfd4da875]
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu Jul 4 05:10:00 2013
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.0, 128 bits)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Looking good so far.
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Hans
Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 45 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 16:52 Post subject:
how to make save file smaller |
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Hello to all,
I would like to make one of my dmcrypt save files smaller instead of bigger.
Is this possible?
cheers to all
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Marv

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 1014 Location: SW Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2013, 11:56 Post subject:
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Probably a dumb question but....
Frugal install to SSD on Fujitsu s6520 all intel core 2 duo laptop went uneventfully. Wireless connection worked, posting from Seamonkey now. When I run fatdog package manager and ask to refresh package lists, nothing happens. Dialog box opens, stays at 0% for a while, then probably times out. Independent of repo I choose. Lists in /root/.packages seem correct. Anything I can do to troubleshoot this? Basically this is a pristine boot. Nothing installed or changed except to create the save file, connect to the network, and reboot.
Thanks,
Edited: Tried it multiple times, posted this, retried, checked that I had set locale etc., retried still timing out. Set up a firewall whilst poking, retried and it works on all repos. Who knows, but solved and I'm happy.
Re-edited: Moved savefile location (Thanks for nice faqs and howtoo). Problem reoccurred. Turns out to be a timing thing. My ISP DHCP serves up a REALLY bad primary DNS, which I always patch using /etc/resolv.conf.head. Prior to patching, the package manager update consistantly fails. Post patch, it refreshes very quickly and I haven't been able to make it fail. Maybe it isn't quite patient enough for a bum DNS server. Anyway, again.
Thanks,
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DC

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 361 Location: Maidenhead, England
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Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2013, 05:46 Post subject:
desktop display |
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Hi everybody,
Is it possible to display two desktops on one large monitor? Imitating a two monitor display. So that maximizing a window only takes up half of the screen.
Or is there a easy way to arrange windows side by side for instance two spreadsheets evenly displayed?
right clicking on the desktop selection in the taskbar shows "Desktop pager settings" but this is greyed out. Whats this for? how to ungrey it?
thanks
DC
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Sylvander
Joined: 15 Dec 2008 Posts: 4327 Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK
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Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2013, 07:45 Post subject:
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Why not just tile 2 program windows?
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Marv

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 1014 Location: SW Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2013, 09:26 Post subject:
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Is there (or does anyone have) a 64b lxappearance or spacefm for fatdog? Looked in the repos and so far no luck cobbling either together.
Thanks,
Edited: Made my peace with ROX with bookmarks and migrating my rightclickers from SpaceFM and can just use ROX options to change overall icon theme.
Unpack initrd, either by click or fatdog-split-initrd works fine.
Ran separate base for a few days. Line for that in my Grub4Dos menu entry was: Code: | kernel /fatdog_621/vmlinuz savefile=ram:device:sda1:/fatdog_621/fd64save.ext2 basesfs=device:sda1:/fatdog_621/fd64-620.sfs base2ram=yes |
Unsquashed the base sfs pulled seamonkey, pwireless, some themes, added desktop/defaultbrowser for external opera, lxterminal, a couple of categories to the applications menu so it and the openbox menu match a little more closely, my lxpanel config and launchers, cursor theme, tweaked .desktops to get apps in my new categories....and resquashed the sfs and repacked the initrd. Now running from the repacked initrd. It's ALL in the faqs Haven't spotified my external opera yet. That's next.
In summary, It all just works, and damn well. CPU use at idle on this 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo laptop is 0.5%, as good as it gets.
Thanks again
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Last edited by Marv on Wed 10 Jul 2013, 15:10; edited 1 time in total
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WillM
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 173 Location: Oakland, California
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Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2013, 11:12 Post subject:
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Hi DC;
I use this program to tile windows.
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tile-0.7.4-x86_64.pet |
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10.44 KB |
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173 Time(s) |
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 6730 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2013, 14:15 Post subject:
How to combine all save-sessions into an SFS or PET? |
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Seeking a recommendation
- Is there a utility to take all of the DVD's saved-session and create an SFS that could be used for boot-time loading? OR,
- Is there a recommended approach to taking the save-sessions and creating an SFS suitable for boot-time loading?
Thanks in advance for guidance.
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DC

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 361 Location: Maidenhead, England
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Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 01:12 Post subject:
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Thanks WillM works fine,
also thanks to whom made the pet if its not yourself
now if it could tile desktops
DC
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suttiwit
Joined: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 28 Location: Chiang Mai, Thailand
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Posted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 04:10 Post subject:
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I wonder if i could have Xchat pet for fatdog64 621, please?
Thanks in advance
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Recently i just found out that xchat is already included.
Never mind, then.
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